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« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2019, 11:25:03 am »

This trophy should be a knock out competition from the outset for the lower two divisions .
No youth teams involved and no preliminary groups .
Then it would be worth attending and competing for.
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« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2019, 14:13:34 pm »

This trophy should be a knock out competition from the outset for the lower two divisions .
No youth teams involved and no preliminary groups .
Then it would be worth attending and competing for.
End of .

like it used to be, when no-one went to the games?!
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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2019, 14:26:04 pm »

like it used to be, when no-one went to the games?!

More went then than go now though .
It’s either that or scrap it altogether
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2019, 14:44:24 pm »

More went then than go now though .
It’s either that or scrap it altogether

I always used to go to the home games but stopped going when the U21s joined the competition. It was a matter of principle for me, which isn't a dig at anyone who still chooses to go to them.
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2019, 17:44:36 pm »

More went then than go now though .
It’s either that or scrap it altogether


Proof please and I don't share your opinion
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« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2019, 23:37:50 pm »



Proof please and I don't share your opinion
I don’t have proof but I think it’s common knowledge that attendances in this competition have dropped considerably at individual games .
Surely you don’t like the current format do you ?
If it was marketed properly as a knock out I think it would be successful . I wouldn’t mind having a go at it myself actually !
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« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2019, 00:08:11 am »

People seem to forget the EFL Trophy in its various guises was dying on its arse. Us League One and Two fans had no respect for the competition and it was generally known as the Mickey Mouse Cup. It's shame we didn't have any respect for our fellow clubs as it was a neat idea. The cup for leagues below us, the FA Trophy, does really well.
It was an effort to breathe life in to the competition that the League introduced these U21 clubs from the Prem. It's supremely ironic that us league fans are now stamping our feet demanding the return to the cup competition we ridiculed so much.

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« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2019, 09:33:14 am »

I think the cup in either format was a mistake.

If they wanted to revitalise interest then introducing Championship clubs would have been a better way to go, and would have made it a proper EFL trophy.

The problem with having a cup for just L1 and L2 clubs is that most of us play each other all the time, so it's never anything special. That's a key difference to the FA Trophy / FA Vase where leagues are increasingly regionalised.
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« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2019, 09:37:13 am »

The funny thing is, I think most supporters would be more interested if it was a League U-21 trophy, but then they decided to fine clubs making too many changes from their league fixtures. I know I'd be more intrigued if it was a chance for some more competitive time for our up-and-comers.

The other thing is, whilst a Wembley final is nice & prize money is welcome, I think they really need to offer a genuine incentive for the winner. How about a Europa Cup spot?  Tongue
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« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2019, 10:49:39 am »

The funny thing is, I think most supporters would be more interested if it was a League U-21 trophy, but then they decided to fine clubs making too many changes from their league fixtures. I know I'd be more intrigued if it was a chance for some more competitive time for our up-and-comers.

The other thing is, whilst a Wembley final is nice & prize money is welcome, I think they really need to offer a genuine incentive for the winner. How about a Europa Cup spot?  Tongue

Or what about entry into the league cup at the 2nd/3rd round stage the following season?
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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2019, 12:43:31 pm »

How much do we get for qualifying to the knock out stage?
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« Reply #51 on: November 08, 2019, 13:31:57 pm »

How much do we get for qualifying to the knock out stage?

Nothing!!

Every team receives a "participation fee"......that's £20,000

Prize money is based on results.....

Group Stages is £10,000 for a win, and £5,000 for a draw (regardless of whether you win or lose the resulting shootout)
Knockout stage is £20,000 for a win in round 2, £40,000 for a win in round 3 (area Q/F), £50,000 for a win in the semi-final (area S/F) , then if you win the area final you'll either get £50,000 for losing the overall final or £100,000 for winning it.
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« Reply #52 on: November 08, 2019, 18:17:40 pm »

Or what about entry into the league cup at the 2nd/3rd round stage the following season?

Or, to reward both finalists, 2nd round for the runners up and 3rd round for the winners.

Sort of then guarantees a bigger draw, along with the associated gate receipts and potentially TV revenues?
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« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2019, 23:26:38 pm »

For the one or two of you who might be interested, the draw is just after 2pm on Sky Soccer Saturday, we will be away to one of the 7 other group winners (can't play Pish again yet) and after tonights results the picture is clearer...

Colchester, Portsmouth, Brighton, Walsall and MK Dons are all confirmed as group winners, with the other two groups seeing either Chelsea or Bristol Rovers (Rovers play Swindon tomorrow, and a win or penalty shootout win will see them top the group, a shootout loss or a defeat will see Chelsea win) and either Exeter or West Ham (West Ham need a two goal or more win, any other result sees Exeter win the group) taking the final places.
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« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2019, 08:03:25 am »

For the one or two of you who might be interested, the draw is just after 2pm on Sky Soccer Saturday, we will be away to one of the 7 other group winners (can't play Pish again yet) and after tonights results the picture is clearer...

Colchester, Portsmouth, Brighton, Walsall and MK Dons are all confirmed as group winners, with the other two groups seeing either Chelsea or Bristol Rovers (Rovers play Swindon tomorrow, and a win or penalty shootout win will see them top the group, a shootout loss or a defeat will see Chelsea win) and either Exeter or West Ham (West Ham need a two goal or more win, any other result sees Exeter win the group) taking the final places.
MK away is ideal for a mid week game and there is never anyone there anyway do you wouldn’t notice the difference.
Do the premier teams play at their traditional home grounds or are they all played away ?
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« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2019, 09:13:37 am »

MK away is ideal for a mid week game and there is never anyone there anyway do you wouldn’t notice the difference.
Do the premier teams play at their traditional home grounds or are they all played away ?


Apparently they play their games at home in this round however it may not be at their PL ground.

"5.1.2 Round of 32.
(i) The eight winners and eight runners up of the north and south group stages qualify for the round of 32.  All other Clubs are eliminated from the Competition.
(ii) The round of 32 pairings are determined by means of a draw whereby the winner of a group will be drawn at home and will play a runner up of a group from the same region (but not from the same group)
(iii) Subject to the requirement above, the League shall determine the format of, and conduct, the draw to determine the round of 32.
(iv) Matches will be of ninety minutes duration, with no extra time. If the scores are level then the winners shall be determined by the taking of kicks from the penalty mark in accordance with procedures as approved by IFAB."
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« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2019, 11:57:57 am »

Apparently they play their games at home in this round however it may not be at their PL ground.

"5.1.2 Round of 32.
(i) The eight winners and eight runners up of the north and south group stages qualify for the round of 32.  All other Clubs are eliminated from the Competition.
(ii) The round of 32 pairings are determined by means of a draw whereby the winner of a group will be drawn at home and will play a runner up of a group from the same region (but not from the same group)
(iii) Subject to the requirement above, the League shall determine the format of, and conduct, the draw to determine the round of 32.
(iv) Matches will be of ninety minutes duration, with no extra time. If the scores are level then the winners shall be determined by the taking of kicks from the penalty mark in accordance with procedures as approved by IFAB."

Didn't Peterborough play Chelsea's U21s last year at Stamford Bridge?
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« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2019, 13:52:46 pm »

Chelsea did indeed play at Stamford Bridge, as they did the previous season when Oxford were the visitors.

I don't believe that West Ham will use the London Stadium though...some term of the unique lease agreement with a limit to the amount of games played there...ie only recognised first team games.
Brighton would be ok....I think they'd have to play at the Amex.....

MK had a monster 1,101 in attendance for their game last night.

As long as we don't get Portsmouth or Exeter i'd be happy!!
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« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2019, 14:19:39 pm »

Chelsea did indeed play at Stamford Bridge, as they did the previous season when Oxford were the visitors.

I don't believe that West Ham will use the London Stadium though...some term of the unique lease agreement with a limit to the amount of games played there...ie only recognised first team games.
Brighton would be ok....I think they'd have to play at the Amex.....

MK had a monster 1,101 in attendance for their game last night.

As long as we don't get Portsmouth or Exeter i'd be happy!!

Portsmouth would be right up my street  Smiley
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« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2019, 16:51:41 pm »

Portsmouth would be right up my street  Smiley

There's always one!!

Brighton is not too far!!  Grin
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