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« on: July 29, 2019, 10:52:30 am »

Play like we did against MK, I reckon we win this 2-0. Due a good season, lets hope we get off to a good start!
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2019, 12:00:51 pm »

traditional slow starters................score early, concede late.

1-1 draw
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2019, 13:05:07 pm »

traditional slow starters................score early, concede late.

1-1 draw

I think its important we start fast. I don't think we can all stand another s*** season. Hope I don't hear from the manager or players, the excuse, we're a new group and it will take time to gel
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2019, 16:31:25 pm »

I think its important we start fast. I don't think we can all stand another **** season. Hope I don't hear from the manager or players, the excuse, we're a new group and it will take time to gel

We have replaced 3/4 of the squad it would be an over achievement to start fast, I expect a mixed bag of results in the first 10 games.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2019, 16:45:48 pm »

We have replaced 3/4 of the squad it would be an over achievement to start fast

I think this can be mitigated somewhat by embedding some partnerships who have played together before i.e. Goode and Turnbull and Adams and Hoskins.

If Curle is desperate to play Wharton then I'd be tempted to play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the middle.

Also, I'll be shot down for this but I'd play Cornell over Arnold based on pre-season form. 




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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2019, 18:20:35 pm »

We have replaced 3/4 of the squad it would be an over achievement to start fast, I expect a mixed bag of results in the first 10 games.

Not sure I agree - the not “gelling” excuse is often used for a poor start that tends to continue throughout the season - plenty of examples of brand new squads firing on all cylinders from the off - good example was Shrewsbury two seasons ago.

Of course we have to manage expectations and there will be bumps on the road but anything less than maintaining a top 7 position from the off (2 or 3 games in) will be a disappointment for me.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2019, 19:25:19 pm »

Not sure I agree - the not “gelling” excuse is often used for a poor start that tends to continue throughout the season - plenty of examples of brand new squads firing on all cylinders from the off - good example was Shrewsbury two seasons ago.

Of course we have to manage expectations and there will be bumps on the road but anything less than maintaining a top 7 position from the off (2 or 3 games in) will be a disappointment for me.
Most League 2 clubs have big changes in their squads every year, so surely, its a problem for all the clubs, but only the ones that lose use it !!
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2019, 20:58:51 pm »

I think this can be mitigated somewhat by embedding some partnerships who have played together before i.e. Goode and Turnbull and Adams and Hoskins.

If Curle is desperate to play Wharton then I'd be tempted to play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the middle.

Also, I'll be shot down for this but I'd play Cornell over Arnold based on pre-season form. 



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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2019, 21:00:33 pm »

And again, I hope I’m wrong but bet it gets used! You also have to bear in mind that now the old bunch have been moved out he’ll have to lay down foundations and a new platform
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2019, 07:28:18 am »

I think this can be mitigated somewhat by embedding some partnerships who have played together before i.e. Goode and Turnbull and Adams and Hoskins.

If Curle is desperate to play Wharton then I'd be tempted to play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the middle.

Also, I'll be shot down for this but I'd play Cornell over Arnold based on pre-season form. 





It’s very unlikely he will play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the centre because the latter two are both left footed . Distribution from the back would be in balanced if this was the case .
I am sure he will play three at the back at home .
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2019, 07:32:57 am »

He made a bit of a rod for his own back in going with the system he did against mk (and it working so well) - logic would dictate that we will go with the same formation and personnel against Walsall but as we know KC is a big 5-3-2 fan and I’m sure he’s looking at a way to shoehorn Wharton in.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2019, 07:57:19 am »

It’s very unlikely he will play Goode at right back with Turnbull and Wharton in the centre because the latter two are both left footed . Distribution from the back would be in balanced if this was the case .
I am sure he will play three at the back at home .

Disappointing if true (but I suspect you are right).

As Itchy says, the logical thing to do is to stick with 4-2-3-1, but logic doesn't always come into it with Keith.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2019, 08:16:54 am »

                      Cornell

            Goode Wharton Turnull

Hall-Johnson                          Martin

          Adams McCormack Lines

                        Warburton
              Smith

I think we will start like this against Walsall. Still hoping for the 4-1-4-1 or 4-2-3-1 but Wharton would be a waste of a loan signing on decent money if this was the case. We could always go 5-4-1 and rely on one of the midfield playing off of Smith.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2019, 09:13:11 am »

I think , true to form he will ignore how well we played against MK and change it to :
 
                        Cornell
          Goode.  Wharton.  Turnbull
 Adams                                        Martin
                   McCormack
            Warburton.         Lines
                  Smith.   Hoskins

Personally , I would rather have Bunney in for Martin and Williams in for Hoskins .
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2019, 10:03:51 am »

He made a bit of a rod for his own back in going with the system he did against mk (and it working so well) - logic would dictate that we will go with the same formation and personnel against Walsall but as we know KC is a big 5-3-2 fan and I’m sure he’s looking at a way to shoehorn Wharton in.

So after one game against a poor MK performance;  4-3-2-1 is the way forward and we all grasp the simple logic theme Roll Eyes.  He may well play 3 at the back and the side(s) picked by either Boots’ or Rauld’ may well be nearer the mark. Would prefer Hoskins up with Smith tho’. Personally if he uses the same formation as against MK then would use Wharton as a sub for McC. Certainly would only give McC 60 mins based on his perceived fitness levels.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2019, 11:03:00 am »

Disappointing if true (but I suspect you are right).

As Itchy says, the logical thing to do is to stick with 4-2-3-1, but logic doesn't always come into it with Keith.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2019, 11:17:51 am »

After a couple of losses the world is crashing down and Keith is the devil. Laughable.

After one win Keith has found the magic formula. Laughable.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2019, 11:31:26 am »

What I meant was that if we go 5-3-2 and draw/lose/are disjointed then the likelihood is that he’s going to get bombarded by people asking why he changed the system from the mk dons game (and I appreciate that it was only a friendly but this is what will happen).
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2019, 12:36:36 pm »

I’m not too fussed which system he employs, just find a winning one and stick with it as much as possible.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2019, 18:11:19 pm »

What I meant was that if we go 5-3-2 and draw/lose/are disjointed then the likelihood is that he’s going to get bombarded by people asking why he changed the system from the mk dons game (and I appreciate that it was only a friendly but this is what will happen).

I think this makes sense.

I like you Irchy.

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