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Swansea City (a)- League Cup First Round- 13/8/19

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« Reply #80 on: August 14, 2019, 09:12:52 am »

If , every time a goal goes in at division 2 level the goalkeeper’s reaction and positioning is solely taken into account in terms of culpability then 90% of the goals will be the keeper’s fault !!
You really do need to look at the passages of play before the ball crosses the line .
On a positive note , it sounded like Waters had a decent game last night and great to see Warburton score a well worked goal .
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« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2019, 09:13:39 am »

It was a strange game for eighty minutes it was enjoyable.
We defended well and seemed set for a win.
Thought we took a decent amount for a long Tuesday night game and the atmosphere in the away end was entertaining then it all went wrong.
The positives were Scott Wharton’s strong performance. I also thought McWilliams and Watson did the defensive side of the midfield work well.
The negatives were that the substitutions were ineffective Warburton had been our most positive attacking player and young Roberts had a disastrous time.
Cornell is a funny keeper if he is set and ready he is capable of fine saves he made one last night and he is a decent penalty stopper but his decision making is frequently poor and often seems surprised by shots from outside the box that go straight through him.This is why he is always going to divide opinions.My own take is I’d prefer a more consistent custodian.
Hoping Macc are as poor as last season as a first win is now very important.

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« Reply #82 on: August 14, 2019, 09:16:46 am »

The commentators don’t exactly agree with you!

on radio northampton? and pete walton?

thank god.
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« Reply #83 on: August 14, 2019, 10:08:44 am »

on radio northampton? and pete walton?

thank god.


If there is a choice between Radio Npton and your wild and unpredictable opinion’s would take more notice of esteemed Radio NTFC or even B&S at a pinch!
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« Reply #84 on: August 14, 2019, 10:15:24 am »

If there is a choice between Radio Npton and your wild and unpredictable opinion’s would take more notice of esteemed Radio NTFC or even B&S at a pinch!

game of opinions

if you think that both goals are in no part cornells fault then thats your opinion. thats fine.

but i would like a keeper who doesnt let in those goals - rash and ultimately bad decision for the first, and just general poor hands / shot stopping for the second.

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« Reply #85 on: August 14, 2019, 10:22:47 am »



but i would like a keeper who doesnt let in those goals


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« Reply #87 on: August 14, 2019, 12:03:32 pm »

I repeat - both goals were down to outfield defensive errors - non negotiable .
None of the goals conceded were down to the goalkeeper.


Yes they were,  which is a shame as DC looked very good until that point.

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« Reply #88 on: August 14, 2019, 12:08:34 pm »

The worse part of last night game was the treatment of Morgan Roberts after his mistake,  when on his knees distraught.... not one of his team's mates went over to him and picked him up .... then once in ear shot his Manager have him both barrels

For this alone my view on KFC being a grade A Sh1thouse is confirmed, 
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« Reply #89 on: August 14, 2019, 12:21:08 pm »

game of opinions

if you think that both goals are in no part cornells fault then thats your opinion. thats fine.

but i would like a keeper who doesnt let in those goals - rash and ultimately bad decision for the first, and just general poor hands / shot stopping for the second.


Yep , and add to that defenders that close down and tackle , midfielders that don’t give the ball away and forwards that hit the target every time .
Sadly none of us support Manchester City .
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« Reply #90 on: August 14, 2019, 12:32:44 pm »

Quote from: Alfred link=topic=18614.msg393827#msg393827 date=
... not one of his team's mates went over to him and picked him up .... then once in ear shot his Manager have him both barrels

For this alone my view on KFC being a grade A Sh1thouse is confirmed, 

One of the commentators mentioned Cornell did. Presumably you missed that?  You hardly need to confirm your dislike of KC as you have previously advised this
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« Reply #91 on: August 14, 2019, 12:42:25 pm »

The worse part of last night game was the treatment of Morgan Roberts after his mistake,  when on his knees distraught.... not one of his team's mates went over to him and picked him up .... then once in ear shot his Manager have him both barrels

For this alone my view on KFC being a grade A Sh1thouse is confirmed, 
I saw the highlights on I follow and Sean McWilliams really lays into Roberts whilst still on his knees
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« Reply #92 on: August 14, 2019, 12:47:15 pm »

Yep , and add to that defenders that close down and tackle , midfielders that don’t give the ball away and forwards that hit the target every time .
Sadly none of us support Manchester City .

nope but i expect defenders to win 80/20 tackles in their favour, midfielders to make 5 yard passes sideways and forwards that hit the target with an open goal - same as i expect my keeper not to come to punch a ball he gets nowhere near, or to let a shot straight at him go through his hands.

dont think we have to be a man city fan for that.

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« Reply #93 on: August 14, 2019, 12:48:05 pm »

One of the commentators mentioned Cornell did. Presumably you missed that?  You hardly need to confirm your dislike of KC as you have previously advised this

cornell was first to berate him - quite animated as well.

good of him to pick him up, if he did after he had slated him for making him charge of his line to punch thin air.
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« Reply #94 on: August 14, 2019, 12:49:39 pm »

I see that your obsession with actually going, is returning.
But in answer to your question, (Sileby aside), 0ldham 04-05-2019. Or to put it another way, the last but one. I told you this after the game, on the match thread, and advised you that, I was wearing the vintage "Carpet Supercenta" shirt. Remember now?
This is just like talking to my mum.  Cheesy

No obsession as you put it.  You miss the point as posting controversial comments when actually not present leaves your judgement ‘slightly’ suspect. By all means express yr opinions whether there or not. Just be prepared to face contrary opinions. It’s hard I know!
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« Reply #95 on: August 14, 2019, 13:07:53 pm »

nope but i expect defenders to win 80/20 tackles in their favour, midfielders to make 5 yard passes sideways and forwards that hit the target with an open goal - same as i expect my keeper not to come to punch a ball he gets nowhere near, or to let a shot straight at him go through his hands.

dont think we have to be a man city fan for that.



Your argument appears so one sided. From the videos Roberts skied the ball; Cornell came out to challenge for the ball as he clearly saw the danger Roll Eyes Hindsight is your main stay argument. I will not comment on the validity of Cornell’s actions but prefer to heed of those there!
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« Reply #96 on: August 14, 2019, 13:10:40 pm »

If , every time a goal goes in at division 2 level the goalkeeper’s reaction and positioning is solely taken into account in terms of culpability then 90% of the goals will be the keeper’s fault !!
You really do need to look at the passages of play before the ball crosses the line .
On a positive note , it sounded like Waters had a decent game last night and great to see Warburton score a well worked goal .

Absolute nonsense. I'm not even sure you believe that yourself, it's a ridiculous statement.

I keep seeing on here posters excusing Cornell with the 'just a League 2 keeper' argument, but never putting forward such a defense of any of our outfield players.

Cornell is badly at fault for the first two goals. The defence restricted Swansea to no more than a couple of 'meaningful' attempts on target prior to the first goal, which regardless of the initial bad clearance, wouldn't have been scored if Cornell had simply done his job in goal. Simply put, the first goal was scored when there was not even a 'meaningful' chance for Swansea.

The second is simply poor 'keeping. This would be considered poor 'keeping in the National League.

The stats show that Cornell was in the bottom few performing goalkeepers in League 2 last season and the two mistakes last night are simply more additions to his long list of glaring errors, and are indicative of why his stats are so poor.
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« Reply #97 on: August 14, 2019, 13:28:51 pm »

Absolute nonsense. I'm not even sure you believe that yourself, it's a ridiculous statement.

I keep seeing on here posters excusing Cornell with the 'just a League 2 keeper' argument, but never putting forward such a defense of any of our outfield players.

Cornell is badly at fault for the first two goals. The defence restricted Swansea to no more than a couple of 'meaningful' attempts on target prior to the first goal, which regardless of the initial bad clearance, wouldn't have been scored if Cornell had simply done his job in goal. Simply put, the first goal was scored when there was not even a 'meaningful' chance for Swansea.

The second is simply poor 'keeping. This would be considered poor 'keeping in the National League.

The stats show that Cornell was in the bottom few performing goalkeepers in League 2 last season and the two mistakes last night are simply more additions to his long list of glaring errors, and are indicative of why his stats are so poor.

If only you could were KC’s  keeper coach.....if only Roll Eyes Hindsight rules!
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« Reply #98 on: August 14, 2019, 13:54:54 pm »

One of the commentators mentioned Cornell did. Presumably you missed that?  You hardly need to confirm your dislike of KC as you have previously advised this

i watched with my own eyes .... it was a disgrace he was left for so long.

You hardly need to comment on my dislike for KFC,  but each to their own.
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« Reply #99 on: August 14, 2019, 13:56:28 pm »

Everight. Devil or Curle advocate?
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