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« Reply #280 on: February 16, 2020, 10:26:21 am »

2nd Cornell fault
3rd deflected?

The recruitment has been good the criticism is the method of use of the players!
There’s no deflection on the third, it’s another Cornell howler it loops over his head in slow motion, how many points has he cost us this season?
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« Reply #281 on: February 16, 2020, 10:32:36 am »

There’s no deflection on the third, it’s another Cornell howler it loops over his head in slow motion, how many points has he cost us this season?

A lot. He's had a better season but he is very capable of this. He really was poor for their goals.
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« Reply #282 on: February 16, 2020, 12:17:36 pm »

There’s no deflection on the third, it’s another Cornell howler it loops over his head in slow motion, how many points has he cost us this season?

2nd: Lots of bodies between him and the ball outside the six yard box expecting someone to get some sort of touch, keeper in no-man's land. Ball goes straight in. Happens to a lot of keepers, who are far better than Cornell, unfortunately.
3rd: Big deflection off Goode.
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« Reply #283 on: February 16, 2020, 12:34:27 pm »

2nd: Lots of bodies between him and the ball outside the six yard box expecting someone to get some sort of touch, keeper in no-man's land. Ball goes straight in. Happens to a lot of keepers, who are far better than Cornell, unfortunately.
3rd: Big deflection off Goode.
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In this case Manwork has got it right. Here's a view from behind the goal:



Go to 3.30 for the first, 4.10 for the second.

Both goals look worse from this angle. Cornell rooted to the spot for the first (if he was in 'no mans land' then that's his fault) the flight of the ball is clear, plus there is no deflection of Goode for the second, which just loops tamely over Cornell, who was able to get his fingers on the ball, as can also be seen in the main highlights.
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« Reply #284 on: February 16, 2020, 12:39:08 pm »

Curle has been absolutely shafted by bad luck.

McCormack (risky signing given his injury record) absolutely commands any game when he is fit.  It was expected that we would win way more games than we lost when he was fit.

Olayinka showed in his debut against Sc***horpe that he will outperform any other midfield at this level (until cynically injured by a player who had only just cynically injured Martin - why was this Sc***horpe scum allowed to stay on the pitch?)  If he had played these last 3 games, we would be 9 points better off.

There in lie the 2 missing pieces of this jigsaw you all crave.  Curle has recruited them already.  Get off your hobby-horses, and accept reality.  Curle has been shafted by bad luck.

Now, aside from that, Cornell is playing the same level of game that Pierre did at this time last year, after he was also linked with a move to the Championship.....  Pierre was frustrated in the Transfer Window, and "under-performed" until he stopped sulking.  Cornell will, likewise, be gone in the summer.

I fear Turnbull's nose is out of joint following the signing of Jones.

Get Smith fit & fighting, and this Division will be forgotten in 3 month's time.

Am I worried that we have lost 3 league games in a row?  No.  And that is because I can see the players that would win those games for us have not been available.

Do I have confidence that we will succeed?  Yes!




Getting Smith back will be of no use, he is rubbish.
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« Reply #285 on: February 16, 2020, 12:51:26 pm »

McCormack has appeared in 14 games this season...the record with him in the team, won 7 drawn 2 lost 5.

You’d think this bloke was the messiah, not a bit part ageing player with serious fitness problems.
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« Reply #286 on: February 16, 2020, 13:19:57 pm »

In this case Manwork has got it right. Here's a view from behind the goal:



Go to 3.30 for the first, 4.10 for the second.

Both goals look worse from this angle. Cornell rooted to the spot for the first (if he was in 'no mans land' then that's his fault) the flight of the ball is clear, plus there is no deflection of Goode for the second, which just loops tamely over Cornell, who was able to get his fingers on the ball, as can also be seen in the main highlights.

The video you submitted is of v poor quality and you have done remarkably well to ensure Mano4 theory was correct.Have tried to freeze at pre selected intervals but no clarity was forthcoming Shocked
I wish you would go to away games and see for yourself as from the evidence supplied it was difficult to support your persuasive argument Roll Eyes . However my gut feeling is that Cornell should have done better.
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« Reply #287 on: February 16, 2020, 13:54:54 pm »

The video you submitted is of v poor quality and you have done remarkably well to ensure Mano4 theory was correct.Have tried to freeze at pre selected intervals but no clarity was forthcoming Shocked
I wish you would go to away games and see for yourself as from the evidence supplied it was difficult to support your persuasive argument Roll Eyes . However my gut feeling is that Cornell should have done better.

This was the first video I looked at apart from the main highlights, so it didn't take much! The quality of the video is fine and more than good enough to show the goals in a clearer light (due to the angle) than the Sky highlights.
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« Reply #288 on: February 16, 2020, 15:54:02 pm »

This was the first video I looked at apart from the main highlights, so it didn't take much! The quality of the video is fine and more than good enough to show the goals in a clearer light (due to the angle) than the Sky highlights.

Don't think that is the case at all; at best they are inconclusive. Have watched a few games on iFollow where the camera angle is often unhelpful which leads you into an subjective opinion.. I find it difficult to support your theory. For instance it does not convey any communication between the players directly involved. As I said you might be taken more seriously if you were at the game. Consistent failure to do so means you are open to criticism such as bias which you are of course. In this instance Cornell should have done better but there might have been some mitigating circumstances.
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« Reply #289 on: February 16, 2020, 16:06:34 pm »

Pathetic from Cornell for at least 2 of the goals.
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« Reply #290 on: February 16, 2020, 16:52:15 pm »

In this case Manwork has got it right. Here's a view from behind the goal:



Go to 3.30 for the first, 4.10 for the second.

Both goals look worse from this angle. Cornell rooted to the spot for the first (if he was in 'no mans land' then that's his fault) the flight of the ball is clear, plus there is no deflection of Goode for the second, which just loops tamely over Cornell, who was able to get his fingers on the ball, as can also be seen in the main highlights.

Confirms what I thought. Really awful keeping, and in fairness, awful defending too.
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« Reply #291 on: February 16, 2020, 16:59:01 pm »

I wish you would go to away games
As I said you might be taken more seriously if you were at the game.
Hes off again... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #292 on: February 16, 2020, 17:45:57 pm »

Hes off again... Roll Eyes


It is an opinion, just because you don't like does not call for ungentlemanly behaviour. Some builders are gentlemen; Alf Hawtin for a start so don't let the side down. By the way when did you last go to an away game - hand on heart no fibbing?
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« Reply #293 on: February 16, 2020, 18:16:20 pm »

It is an opinion, just because you don't like does not call for ungentlemanly behaviour. Some builders are gentlemen; Alf Hawtin for a start so don't let the side down. By the way when did you last go to an away game - hand on heart no fibbing?
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« Reply #294 on: February 16, 2020, 18:20:50 pm »

 Cornell to blame? Maybe. Is he coached to stay on his line and leave crosses to the defence?
Goode to blame? Possibly, he let the ball go from the free kick (shout from Cornell?) If he had stayed on his feet the winner (miss hit) would have hit him instead of going in.
Pointless argument, if we as a team had kept the ball better 2nd half it would have relieved the pressure on our goal. We asked for trouble and we got it!
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« Reply #295 on: February 16, 2020, 22:55:00 pm »

Salford. New ground.


Well done, didn't expect that! What about Macclesfield?
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« Reply #296 on: February 17, 2020, 07:31:00 am »

2nd: Lots of bodies between him and the ball outside the six yard box expecting someone to get some sort of touch, keeper in no-man's land. Ball goes straight in. Happens to a lot of keepers, who are far better than Cornell, unfortunately.
3rd: Big deflection off Goode.
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« Reply #297 on: February 17, 2020, 07:44:57 am »

Some of the comments on here regarding goalkeeping are embarrassing . If you are dishing out blame , try and extend your concentration beyond when the ball crosses the line . Doubt many of you have played the game or even been in a changing room
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« Reply #298 on: February 17, 2020, 08:22:54 am »

Nobody except Cornell will know what his view was of the ball. In that position, if players run in front of you, it boils down to milliseconds to make a decision and get it right. Cornell is a decent keeper at this level, but not infallible. I have seen very similar happen to keepers at all levels.

   
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« Reply #299 on: February 17, 2020, 08:47:39 am »

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/curle-feels-his-players-have-got-carried-away-themselves-after-fa-cup-run-1742615

There you go, its the players fault for thinking they're better than they are according to Curle…...
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