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« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2020, 20:40:31 pm »

0-1 FT.....back to back 0-1 defeats at home.....not good.
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« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2020, 20:45:21 pm »

Piss poor.

Toothless going forward... again.
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« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2020, 20:53:46 pm »

Not an awful performance but;

We lack any pace, real finesse up front. Very much a case of hump it up and hope. We are one dimensional.

Marshall looked useful. We need to use him better.

Lines a passenger.

I know the Swindon scorer should have been tracked back but couldn't Cornell have come for that cross ?
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« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2020, 21:01:20 pm »

I think that loan players are a two way thing....the parent club allows their player to go out and get some experience and the receiving club gets a player to strengthen their side. That all works well when the receiving club actually plays the loan players!
If you look at some of our loanees in the past couple of years, the likes of Rose, Threlfall, Boden, Swailes, Wilkinson, Parker, Jarvis, even Craig King I get to thinking that the parent clubs might start wondering "why do we bother"?? A couple more results like we've had and I can see lots of disappointed punters  Dave always delivers a munchy foot, manowork is a phillip,Significant investment was required in the early years just to fund the losses and ensure that a Northampton Town Football Club remained in business.  So, if the income from the sale of players such as Johnson and Bunn went into funding some losses rather than being reinvested Well as cheered as 1500 or so can manage!! Not a bad first half, fairly equal first 25, then they bossed it or about 15, then equal again!! in the team so that Cardoza didn't have to put his hand in his own pocket for even more that year, then who would begrudge him that?  Not me.
The only way of seeing any of that investment returned is,don't read the fish between the lines of Chris ultimately, to be a more successful club, with larger attendances, in a higher division.  If this is the aim of the chairman, then it is aligned with the aim of the fans.  The goals are not mutually exclusive, far from it.But they couldnt just keep their mouths shut could they?? After all, they've just put next years season tickets on sale!!Well it was raised on Radio Npton, along the lines of can we get an update on the East Stand.......embarrassed silence and then errrr it's a legal dispute.. This was then repeated twice more before they moved to the next question so it's more than you suggest are interested.
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« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2020, 21:05:08 pm »

Interested on peoples opinions, Arsenal guy injured so take him out of the equation, have any of the other new boys really improved us?
Marshall and Jones played really well first half I thought. Too early to draw conclusions.

The big problem now is our ineffectiveness in and around the box. It's no use Vadaine winning so many aerial balls if nobody is there to fashion out a shot on target.

Williams had a truly dismal game but who do you bring on in his place. We are badly short of options up top whereas Swindon can afford to have someone of Yates' quality on the bench.
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« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2020, 21:05:31 pm »

Interested on peoples opinions, Arsenal guy injured so take him out of the equation, have any of the other new boys really improved us?

Marshall looks quality and was our MOTM tonight for me.
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« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2020, 21:10:33 pm »

I think that loan players are a two way thing....the parent club allows their player to go out and get some experience and the receiving club gets a player to strengthen their side. That all works well when the receiving club actually plays the loan players!
If you look at some of our loanees in the past couple of years, the likes of Rose, Threlfall, Boden, Swailes, Wilkinson, Parker, Jarvis, even Craig King I get to thinking that the parent clubs might start wondering "why do we bother"?? A couple more results like we've had and I can see lots of disappointed punters  Dave always delivers a munchy foot, manowork is a phillip,Significant investment was required in the early years just to fund the losses and ensure that a Northampton Town Football Club remained in business.  So, if the income from the sale of players such as Johnson and Bunn went into funding some losses rather than being reinvested Well as cheered as 1500 or so can manage!! Not a bad first half, fairly equal first 25, then they bossed it or about 15, then equal again!! in the team so that Cardoza didn't have to put his hand in his own pocket for even more that year, then who would begrudge him that?  Not me.
The only way of seeing any of that investment returned is,don't read the fish between the lines of Chris ultimately, to be a more successful club, with larger attendances, in a higher division.  If this is the aim of the chairman, then it is aligned with the aim of the fans.  The goals are not mutually exclusive, far from it.But they couldnt just keep their mouths shut could they?? After all, they've just put next years season tickets on sale!!Well it was raised on Radio Npton, along the lines of can we get an update on the East Stand.......embarrassed silence and then errrr it's a legal dispute.. This was then repeated twice more before they moved to the next question so it's more than you suggest are interested.

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« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2020, 21:12:09 pm »

Where is the Papering Over The Cracks thread?

The last two games have been so frustrating. Our solitary tactic has seemingly been to win a throw, let Goode take it and watch it get headed away by the opposition, and repeat.

Still, #selloutthebescott  Embarrassed Grin
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« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2020, 21:27:35 pm »

Where is the Papering Over The Cracks thread?

The last two games have been so frustrating. Our solitary tactic has seemingly been to win a throw, let Goode take it and watch it get headed away by the opposition, and repeat.

Still, #selloutthebescott  Embarrassed Grin

I started the papering over the cracks thread at a time when we were doing well. I say well...... we were winning games .... ugly.

Now we’re not winning .... guess what? Complaints.

I am Utterly fed up, pissed off call it what you will.... that every team we
Play, without exception, play better football than we do. Do we not have players that could play football? Course we do. They’re just not allowed to.

I’m serious. We need to get rid of Curle. I don’t even care if we don’t go up this season. It could be the worst thing to happen to us. Can you imagine us playing this style of football in league 1?? It would be an embarrassment.
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« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2020, 21:33:31 pm »

I'm with you Tuks. I was at the time of your thread and I'm fully with you still.

There was a point where Jones took a quick throw in in the first half which led to another in a far better position up the pitch and Curle gave him a roasting. I just don't understand how a man who has managed for nearly 20 years can have so little about him tactically. I do actually think we will finish outside the play offs which would be a fair achievement because the standard in the league is so bad.
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« Reply #70 on: February 11, 2020, 21:52:48 pm »

Some people need to realise that a season finishing 9th or 10th will be viewed as a successful season, an improvement on last and then when we splash all that FA Cup cash in the summer transfer window we will be a force to be reckoned with next season....

God, two home defeats in a row, without scoring a goal, its hardly a disaster is it? What about the form before that? What about that game where we played really well....... Grin
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« Reply #71 on: February 11, 2020, 21:55:48 pm »

Watching the game on iFollow thought that the defence played quite well, midfield less so with Lines in particular not really in it! How we miss McCormack. The two front men were mostly disappointing but suffered from poor service. For me Marshall is an enigma and tends to hang onto the ball when a quick pass and quick skelter for the return might be more rewarding. Thought that Swindon were not as good as their position suggested; unfortunately we looked a 6 or 7th placed play off fodder. We were not poor and matched Swindon ball for ball in the first half but became scrappy in the second and was disappointed with the midfield inability to take the game to Swindon. However two 0-1 defeats is not a crisis but highlights our deficiencies in critical areas particularly in midfield.
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« Reply #72 on: February 11, 2020, 21:58:08 pm »

Curle royally fcuked up tonight, Hoskins in Center mid NO, then bring that lightweight ginger kid on for Oliver WTF.
It was hilarious watching the ball hoofed up to Morton, he just get bullied off the ball.
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« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2020, 22:04:50 pm »

Played OK first half and matched them, but offered nothing in the second have apart, from Goodes effort. We need to score the first goal, the longer games go, we run out of ideas. I thought at Derby, we started to look jaded, thought the same Saturday and tonight. Need to somehow grind a result out on Saturday, to halt this mini blip, although it won't be pretty!  
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« Reply #74 on: February 11, 2020, 22:06:17 pm »

Watching the game on iFollow thought that the defence played quite well, midfield less so with Lines in particular not really in it! How we miss McCormack. The two front men were mostly disappointing but suffered from poor service. For me Marshall is an enigma and tends to hang onto the ball when a quick pass and quick skelter for the return might be more rewarding. Thought that Swindon were not as good as their position suggested; unfortunately we looked a 6 or 7th placed play off fodder. We were not poor and matched Swindon ball for ball in the first half but became scrappy in the second and was disappointed with the midfield inability to take the game to Swindon. However two 0-1 defeats is not a crisis but highlights our deficiencies in critical areas particularly in midfield.

Wouldn't back to back home 0-1's highlight a deficiency up front? The focal point of our attack has scored three league goals all season, two of those came in one game. Williams is without a goal in 8 games, and we signed a lightweight striker with no Football League league experience on loan whilst we sat on the FA Cup proceeds.

There's obviously more to it than that......but there's been a glaring lack up front for most of the season, and since the injury to Smith we have failed to address it.

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« Reply #75 on: February 11, 2020, 22:33:12 pm »

Two very different styles of play but nothing between the teams in a game that should have been a draw. The Swindon keeper had to work much harder than Cornell who didn't have to make a meaningful save. I'm assuming someone lost the runner for the goal.                                           
We played our usual game and did have chances but seem to forget that Marshall gives us a new option. We hardly passed the ball to him in the second half even though he could beat the fullback at will.                                                                                                                                                                                  In these last two games we have put the ball into the opponents penalty area so many times without scoring, which is very hard to take. Curley says we need to do more, perhaps we should do something a little smarter. As always the players worked hard but it now looks as if the play offs are the best we can hope for as we lack that bit of quality to turn a game.
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« Reply #76 on: February 11, 2020, 22:36:57 pm »

I started the papering over the cracks thread at a time when we were doing well. I say well...... we were winning games .... ugly.

Now we’re not winning .... guess what? Complaints.

I am Utterly fed up, pissed off call it what you will.... that every team we
Play, without exception, play better football than we do. Do we not have players that could play football? Course we do. They’re just not allowed to.

I’m serious. We need to get rid of Curle. I don’t even care if we don’t go up this season. It could be the worst thing to happen to us. Can you imagine us playing this style of football in league 1?? It would be an embarrassment.

We will soon revert back to our former form and grind out a few wins. Don't wish to be rude but if Curle should go then with a bit of luck you can accompany him. Your worst nightmare is that we do get promoted; do you really think Curle will have the same players to play the same again Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  
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« Reply #77 on: February 11, 2020, 22:40:16 pm »

Wouldn't back to back home 0-1's highlight a deficiency up front? The focal point of our attack has scored three league goals all season, two of those came in one game. Williams is without a goal in 8 games, and we signed a lightweight striker with no Football League league experience on loan whilst we sat on the FA Cup proceeds.

There's obviously more to it than that......but there's been a glaring lack up front for most of the season, and since the injury to Smith we have failed to address it.



Absolutely.
It would appear we tried to sign a striker for a fee during the window but, for what ever reason, it didn't happen. That may cost us.
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« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2020, 23:05:13 pm »

Wouldn't back to back home 0-1's highlight a deficiency up front? The focal point of our attack has scored three league goals all season, two of those came in one game. Williams is without a goal in 8 games, and we signed a lightweight striker with no Football League league experience on loan whilst we sat on the FA Cup proceeds.

There's obviously more to it than that......but there's been a glaring lack up front for most of the season, and since the injury to Smith we have failed to address it.

Watching iFollow I personally thought that the midfield was lacking in creativity and the drive to trouble Swindon particularly second half. If the midfield had any nous at all they should have started to support the front runners more, not forgetting Marshall. It too easy and lazy to idly blame the front two, we all know their limitations. Morton should have started when we were more effective 1st half. I agree with Manny Boyo that Hoskins was out of position and had an ineffective game but we are not in a position to drop (any) forward in double figures. Stick Hoskins on the right wing(back). Use Marshall as game changer sub/or even as a striker. My two sons have returned from the game and
wondered what Lines was doing on the pitch and blamed Watson for not tracking their scorer. We missed McM big time.
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« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2020, 23:07:39 pm »

What worries me is that KC thinks he's some sort of tactical genius. How many times tonight did we nearly get caught out by only leaving one man back when we had a corner and they put 2 upfront and spread them wide, they broke on us every time. It's a massive gamble, to say it's schoolboy stuff is an insult to schoolboys. KC thinks it's a good idea but no one else in football does it, so is he a tactical genius or just another stubborn manager ?
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