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« Reply #340 on: July 02, 2020, 20:44:39 pm »

One positive in this situation is that we have few contracted players which at this time with things as they are is a plus.
No one knows what lies ahead but I’d rather be a chairman with say 15 players to pay rather than some clubs who have 25.
KT has kept the club afloat and paid the wages through all this which is great but it must be a testing time for him and everyone involved in football ownership.
It’s a hunch and only a hunch that if the right offer came in he would sell (I know I would)
He was honest enough to say that extra investment is needed to make the cobblers a viable league one club and that must still be the case.
The fact that other league 1 clubs may be in a worse situation than us offers hope.
The fact that we have been promoted is good and without being a gloomy sod I think we need to be realistic.
If we can stay up beyond our normal two year dalliance with league one it will be a great achievement and will offer a foundation for the club to establish itself in a very tough league.

I’d be treating staying up as much as winning promotion.
It may be that KT is here for the long run and if he delivers a redeveloped ground and a sustainable league one club then I think he deserves every penny of profit that he could make on a potential sale.

One things for sure playing the likes of Sunderland and Ipswich will be better than Macclesfield and Morecambe.

If things fall right and KT backs the club I think he has every chance of walking away with a well deserved profit.
He will be happy
The fans will be happy and the club will be in a far better state than when he took over...

It’s another chance for the club to grow and move forward but as fans we’ve been here before.

Let’s hope this time it isn’t a false dawn...

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« Reply #341 on: July 02, 2020, 20:47:01 pm »

I thought the chairman was in Florida?

Anyway, there’s a deal on the table with a deadline of 31st July which could see work restart on the stand. I suppose we’ll have an idea of the chairman’s intentions in just four weeks time.
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« Reply #342 on: July 02, 2020, 20:49:29 pm »

Would be ironic if we finally get a completed stand at a time where you aren't allowed into the stadium anymore.
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« Reply #343 on: July 02, 2020, 20:51:56 pm »

Would be ironic if we finally get a completed stand at a time where you aren't allowed into the stadium anymore.
Wouldn’t that be typical  Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #344 on: July 02, 2020, 20:54:10 pm »

One positive in this situation is that we have few contracted players which at this time with things as they are is a plus.
No one knows what lies ahead but I’d rather be a chairman with say 15 players to pay rather than some clubs who have 25.
KT has kept the club afloat and paid the wages through all this which is great but it must be a testing time for him and everyone involved in football ownership.
It’s a hunch and only a hunch that if the right offer came in he would sell (I know I would)
He was honest enough to say that extra investment is needed to make the cobblers a viable league one club and that must still be the case.
The fact that other league 1 clubs may be in a worse situation than us offers hope.
The fact that we have been promoted is good and without being a gloomy sod I think we need to be realistic.
If we can stay up beyond our normal two year dalliance with league one it will be a great achievement and will offer a foundation for the club to establish itself in a very tough league.

I’d be treating staying up as much as winning promotion.
It may be that KT is here for the long run and if he delivers a redeveloped ground and a sustainable league one club then I think he deserves every penny of profit that he could make on a potential sale.

One things for sure playing the likes of Sunderland and Ipswich will be better than Macclesfield and Morecambe.

If things fall right and KT backs the club I think he has every chance of walking away with a well deserved profit.
He will be happy
The fans will be happy and the club will be in a far better state than when he took over...

It’s another chance for the club to grow and move forward but as fans we’ve been here before.

Let’s hope this time it isn’t a false dawn...

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« Reply #345 on: July 02, 2020, 20:55:12 pm »

Would be ironic if we finally get a completed stand at a time where you aren't allowed into the stadium anymore.

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« Reply #346 on: July 03, 2020, 08:11:17 am »

One positive in this situation is that we have few contracted players which at this time with things as they are is a plus.
No one knows what lies ahead but I’d rather be a chairman with say 15 players to pay rather than some clubs who have 25.
KT has kept the club afloat and paid the wages through all this which is great but it must be a testing time for him and everyone involved in football ownership.
It’s a hunch and only a hunch that if the right offer came in he would sell (I know I would)
He was honest enough to say that extra investment is needed to make the cobblers a viable league one club and that must still be the case.
The fact that other league 1 clubs may be in a worse situation than us offers hope.
The fact that we have been promoted is good and without being a gloomy sod I think we need to be realistic.
If we can stay up beyond our normal two year dalliance with league one it will be a great achievement and will offer a foundation for the club to establish itself in a very tough league.

I’d be treating staying up as much as winning promotion.
It may be that KT is here for the long run and if he delivers a redeveloped ground and a sustainable league one club then I think he deserves every penny of profit that he could make on a potential sale.

One things for sure playing the likes of Sunderland and Ipswich will be better than Macclesfield and Morecambe.

If things fall right and KT backs the club I think he has every chance of walking away with a well deserved profit.
He will be happy
The fans will be happy and the club will be in a far better state than when he took over...

It’s another chance for the club to grow and move forward but as fans we’ve been here before.

Let’s hope this time it isn’t a false dawn...

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« Reply #347 on: July 03, 2020, 09:48:41 am »

Keith needs to essentially rebuild the spine of this side now. Two left footed CB's gone, RHJ could play CB also so 2 or 3 new CB's needed. We need another midfield destroyer. Prior to McCormack we had missed someone in that roll for years, an essential spot to fill. Two new forwards needed also, hopefully one is Morton, another pacy lad would be beneficial so we have two little and large combinations.

There has yet to be any confirmation on when the next season is starting has there? I wonder if clubs will wait for that before signing anyone. With the number of players out of contract also I wonder how big of an effect the transfer window will have. We brought in Harriman quite late this summer didnt we? It wouldnt surprise me if similar happened this year, with players taking reduced terms instead of having nothing at all.

Still a huge amount of uncertainty, I would be surprised to see any incomings any time soon!
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« Reply #348 on: July 03, 2020, 09:55:06 am »

Keith needs to essentially rebuild the spine of this side now. Two left footed CB's gone, RHJ could play CB also so 2 or 3 new CB's needed. We need another midfield destroyer. Prior to McCormack we had missed someone in that roll for years, an essential spot to fill. Two new forwards needed also, hopefully one is Morton, another pacy lad would be beneficial so we have two little and large combinations.

There has yet to be any confirmation on when the next season is starting has there? I wonder if clubs will wait for that before signing anyone. With the number of players out of contract also I wonder how big of an effect the transfer window will have. We brought in Harriman quite late this summer didnt we? It wouldnt surprise me if similar happened this year, with players taking reduced terms instead of having nothing at all.

Still a huge amount of uncertainty, I would be surprised to see any incomings any time soon!

I’m pretty sure that the clubs are unofficially working towards a start for the new season of 12th September, in which case it won’t be massively different to usual with a couple of months for off season/pre season. Like I’ve said previously I’m not adverse to KC having a bit of a clear out but it all hinges on the recruitment, especially as we are in a higher league where we will need more quality.
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« Reply #349 on: July 03, 2020, 10:40:47 am »

One of the bigger clubs in League Two or one of the lesser clubs in League One?
Manage your expectations, we are not such a big draw for recruitment in this League, which means that WBA will probably want Morton to be at a club with greater potential.
That'll go for anyone else who's in the frame, persuading any player to come to us. COVID-19 will help for players unsure of their financial futures but not necessarily of the quality that people on here are expecting/demanding.
Manage your/the expectations before slating the club, recruitment isn't anything like Championship Manager.
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« Reply #350 on: July 03, 2020, 10:41:00 am »

Turnbull will be a loss but KC has a budget and big earners just have to go if the club cannot afford them.
A greater loss in my opinion will be losing Goode as i think we probably will with a lot of clubs not surprisingly showing interest in him.
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« Reply #351 on: July 03, 2020, 10:59:21 am »

Turnbull will be a loss but KC has a budget and big earners just have to go if the club cannot afford them.
A greater loss in my opinion will be losing Goode as i think we probably will with a lot of clubs not surprisingly showing interest in him.
Thomas made positive noises around keeping Goode when he appeared on It's All Cobblers To Me's post promotion live stream. But time will tell.

It's going to take one hell of an offer it seems for us to even consider it, and I imagine most clubs will be more measured in their approaches this summer than they might otherwise have been.
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« Reply #352 on: July 03, 2020, 11:45:37 am »

Not only is it a very significant Buyers market at present there must be a number (I was going to say numerous) of clubs facing insolvency. Just think - contracts to honour, no season ticket money yet (I'd vouch that in most recent previous seasons most clubs will already have banked the bulk of this), pre-season with little income coming through the door, the actual season delayed at best with severe restrictions at worst and the actual product without crowds not as exciting/enticing. It must be a minefield to manage.

One thought - would a UK subscription to IFollow set at the same rate as the cost of a full season ticket (give or take a few £ sterling) work ?
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« Reply #353 on: July 03, 2020, 11:51:07 am »

I see that Ipswich, Derby and Birmingham are again being touted as interested in Cornell.
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« Reply #354 on: July 03, 2020, 12:21:03 pm »

Disappointed to lose McCormack, Cornell and particularly Turnbull. Agree with others here that the latter was a purely financial decision, whatever KC said in his interview (which I thought was otherwise spot on about the difficulties of letting players go). Let's face it, Turnbull will probably be taking a pay cut wherever he goes. I prefer Cornell to Arnold, and I think he's going simply because he's out of contract and Arnold isn't. That, at least, makes some sense. I think McCormack would probaly still have a lot to offer in L1 but I imagine he's on good money and he's also an injury risk, so I can accept that one as well.

I was hoping that Warburton and particularly Joe Martin might be on their way, but they are obviously still under contract. Not a fan of Lines either, though  I think he has the ability to play at L1 level. I just don't think he'll ever be suitable for a KC style gameplan.

We need Hoskins to sign and I hope Harriman will too. Not sure that Oliver will be so effective in L1 but certainly deserves a contract offer. Let's hope we get at least one of Morton and Wharton too. Without at least 2 or 3 of all these, we're looking at a major rebuild again just when we were hoping for continuity.

To finish on a high note, I'm pleased about Marshall - I think he'll be a very good player for us.

Anyway, in KC we trust - at least for the moment!
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« Reply #355 on: July 03, 2020, 12:44:32 pm »

Ryan Lowe said that it is common for players to have in their contracts a clause including an automatic pay rise on winning promotion (between 10 and 15% he suggested). Given that we've just kept Marshall because of a clause in his contract regarding promotion it seems likely that we will also have these clauses - another cost going forward.

Lowe also "expects a ‘crazy’ rush to make signings when the EFL announce a start date for the 2020/21 season".

From the same article - The new season is expected to start sometime in September, with the EFL holding talks with League One and League Two clubs this week on the subject.
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« Reply #356 on: July 03, 2020, 16:16:10 pm »

Mac & Turnbull gone, I’m devastated. I understand Mac in a way with the injuries and struggling to complete 90 minutes. But our biggest squad requirement post Wilder was, well McCormack. I will be really interested to see who is lined up to replace him, but we need a big influence on the squad both on and off the pitch. Turnbull was absolutely magnificent for us, a great player at this level and it is going to be a big ask to fill both those players boots. Keith Curle has delivered and then some, so his decision will be respected. However, in the unlikely event those players happen to read this, I would like to thank both of those players and all the others who contributed to one of the greatest memories I have in a lifetime of supporting the club. God bless you.
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« Reply #357 on: July 03, 2020, 16:37:19 pm »

Mac & Turnbull gone, I’m devastated. I understand Mac in a way with the injuries and struggling to complete 90 minutes. But our biggest squad requirement post Wilder was, well McCormack. I will be really interested to see who is lined up to replace him, but we need a big influence on the squad both on and off the pitch. Turnbull was absolutely magnificent for us, a great player at this level and it is going to be a big ask to fill both those players boots. Keith Curle has delivered and then some, so his decision will be respected. However, in the unlikely event those players happen to read this, I would like to thank both of those players and all the others who contributed to one of the greatest memories I have in a lifetime of supporting the club. God bless you.

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« Reply #358 on: July 03, 2020, 18:33:11 pm »

Expect Hoskins to delay resigning, until he finds out where Turnbull ends up.
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« Reply #359 on: July 03, 2020, 18:42:42 pm »

That is pure speculation.
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