Out of contract

[Welly Cobb]

A lot of recruitment to do then. Do wonder what the financial situation is truly like with us, and most of the English league.

[Irchy cob]

As always whether or not they are good decisions will depend on who we bring in to replace them - hopefully KC has some irons in the fire and his recruitment record is pretty good. The thing I am a bit concerned about is that McCormack was a massive character and leader and he will take some replacing. As others have said Turnbull is probably the bigger blow - he has a lot of experience for his age and is consistent and versatile but like has been said above he (and waters) are the last of the hasselbaink big earners. I agree with what others have said about Martin, warburton and lines - none of them are really good enough at league 2 level let alone league one.

[guest3338]

Best defender and best finisher gone. Agree we should have offered Turnbull something. Think we should also have made Anderson and Williams an offer. Feel sorry for Dai. Arnold didn't do anything wrong in these last three games but he wasn't exactly tested either.
There's also a few under contract, the likes of Warburton and Martin, that we are going to get stuck with but maybe the higher division will suit Lines.

[Dan]

Turnbull and Macca are the only two who will be missed in league 1.

[Shoemaker]

A lot of recruitment to do then. Do wonder what the financial situation is truly like with us, and most of the English league.

Dire I should imagine

[clarkeysntfc]

What if Hoskins now decides he wants a fresh start as well and doesn't sign a new deal?

Would that really be the end of the world?

[Coolcat]

I had forgotten all about Billy Waters. I thought he was going to be a good player for us when he signed, pity it didn't work out.

Strangely, I was thinking (during the playoff final of all times!) about what happened to Billy! Did he go on loan to Cheltenham...or come from there?
He'll end up at St Albans City...where I think I last saw him score!

[Coolcat]

Best defender and best finisher gone. Agree we should have offered Turnbull something. Think we should also have made Anderson and Williams an offer. Feel sorry for Dai. Arnold didn't do anything wrong in these last three games but he wasn't exactly tested either.
There's also a few under contract, the likes of Warburton and Martin, that we are going to get stuck with but maybe the higher division will suit Lines.

Was so excited when Warburton signed from Stockport - a prolific goal scorer is a prolific goal scorer...erm wrong!
Flop!

[Saint Cobbler]

Turnbull absolutely should have been offered something, without doubt. I'm sure he's realistic and understands the financial pressures affecting the club. It's the same across the board, so he's going to find the same wherever he goes. Following Curle's logic, he won't be fully motivated to play anywhere simply because he's on less money than he was with us? I think he has more about him than that and to suggest otherwise is disingenuous by Curle. Jordan has a clear affinity with this club and the fans, is a core part of the team, and should be here with us next season if he wants to be and it sounds like a big part of him does.

Isn't he supposed to be best friends with Hoskins? What if Hoskins now decides he wants a fresh start as well and doesn't sign a new deal? Further ramifications. Ripping up the heart of the team just like we did in 2016.

The reasoning behind McCormack makes more sense and he'll have clubs queuing up for his services. Anderson I feel sorry for, but he wouldn't necessarily get the games in L1 so hopefully he can find a L2 club quite quickly.

Agree with this. Surely something could have been worked out to keep a key component of our defensive formation.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

It doesn't even sound like he was offered a contract......ok if you offer him half the salary and he refuses fair enough, but to not offer him anything strikes me as very odd. The reasons offered by KC don't sound right as surely Jordan will be in the same boat anywhere else, he won't get what (inflated) salary he was on here....unless someone bigger is already lined up.

We are now left with two of our pretty solid back 3 having gone, assuming Wharton doesn't come back. I'd like to see who we can get for less.

[everbrite]

It doesn't even sound like he was offered a contract......ok if you offer him half the salary and he refuses fair enough, but to not offer him anything strikes me as very odd. The reasons offered by KC don't sound right as surely Jordan will be in the same boat anywhere else, he won't get what (inflated) salary he was on here....unless someone bigger is already lined up.

We are now left with two of our pretty solid back 3 having gone, assuming Wharton doesn't come back. I'd like to see who we can get for less.

Perhaps Coventry have lined him up if so his wages might not take such a big hit.  Think you hit the nail on the head he was on an inflated salary and presumably KC assumed he could do better at an acceptable salary level.

ps  We don't know what was said between the player and KC; there could be a dozen reasons why he has gone.

[CobblerForever]

We always talk about a busy pre-season rebuilding. This one's going to be even busier.

Turnbull leaving unexpected and a big disappointment.

You have to say that Curle and his team have done an astonishing job keeping motivation and spirits up in these circumstances.

Every league club must be desperate for some certainty of their income going forward. FWIW Thomas was talking about increased income streams from IFollow whilst we cannot attend but that's to be decided and proved.

The Age of Uncertainty beckons.

[everbrite]

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/retained_list/

Thanks Clarkie

[Manwork04]

Jordan Turnbull was one of the best defenders in L2, he could also do a job in midfield if needed.
Big mistake in letting him go.

[guest2995]

Turnbull is quite a shock .
I do know that he was the next highest earner after KVV at that particular time and so I suspect it’s down to wages .
I do wonder if there is going to be another announcement on some of the players under contract being available for a move because Lines , Warburton , Martin and Smith are not good enough .
I think it’s the right decision on Macca . You can’t pay for someone who plays half a season and three quarters of a game .
Cornell is very unlucky but he may have wanted a move .
Hoskins deserves another contract and I’m pleased for him - if he signs it !
Harriman is also fortunate but did well in the last two games at least . Not a wing back though .

[CobblerForever]

Perhaps Coventry have lined him up if so his wages might not take such a big hit.  Think you hit the nail on the head he was on an inflated salary and presumably KC assumed he could do better at an acceptable salary level.

ps  We don't know what was said between the player and KC; there could be a dozen reasons why he has gone.

Hi Evers,

Jordan's comment on Twitter was "Massive thank you to everyone @ntfc and most importantly the fans for always supporting me.
I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at the club and I feel very proud to be part of this group of lads winning promotion.
finally, I want to wish the club every success in the future.#ntfc"

[everbrite]

Looking forward to watching whichever clapped-out journeymen, non-league upstarts and teenage PL loanees we can sign on the minimum wage next season

So Smith, Oliver, and Marshall are NG! 

[bungle]

Releasing Turnbull is a big, big call. This promotion was built on the back of a solid back three. Now two of its members are out of the building. (Imperative that we keep Goode at all costs.)

Curle seems to think that Turnbull would have been less motivated if offered less money. Perhaps that's true, but he doesn't strike me as a player who has ever anything less than an excellent attitude and a desire to succeed.

Much will depend on the players he brings in to replace Wharton and Turnbull. I suppose that the nature of this crisis is that a lot of players who would normally be under contract somewhere will suddenly be available. It will be very much a buyer's market.

[Shoemaker]

Has the chairman made a statement yet??
I’ve a hunch that KT will be trying to sell the club.

The last time we were in league one he said that we needed extra investment to be able to compete at league one level and the Chinese investment charade ensued.

Obviously it’s the same this time round (probably worse with BCD ) so I can’t see anything other than a struggle as the chairman explained last time round....

I think KT would be off like a shot if he wasn’t tied to the club because of the land deal and the profit involved.
Tongue in cheek this promotion is probably the last thing KT needs as he will need to invest in the squad to make it competitive and the fans will soon find out if he has that intention and he has to start work on the stand....
Wasn’t there something about a July deadline??

He seems very quiet for a chairman whose club has just gained promotion....
Too quiet...

On the other hand maybe he is keeping quiet until Keith has signed , a couple of players have resigned and there is news on a start date for the redevelopment and some extra investment !!!

Time will tell.

[everbrite]

He seems very quiet for a chairman whose club has just gained promotion....
Too quiet...

You do realize the Chairman is in LA ??  You only pop up when the Club enters a period of uncertainty and come out with unsubstantiated rumours. Bet Pedji is investigating you now. You never enlightened us all on here what you issue was with the Trust?