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« Reply #360 on: July 05, 2020, 14:26:14 pm »

No matter how much Curle says it wasn’t financial with Turnbull, everything he said showed it clearly was. Turnbull wasn’t just the highest earner at the club from my understanding he was one of the highest earners in league two and wasn’t massively far off the £4K a week Adam Rooney is being paid by Salford. Whilst it does sound a bit silly that we didn’t even try to offer him something and seemed to assume he’d be less motivated... My guess is some preliminary discussions were had and they weren’t remotely close.

Macca, yeah he played an important part in the playoff games but he didn’t play enough games to justify keeping him around. I’d imagine the priority for the squad will be to have a smaller squad of first team quality supplemented by the academy products and a few loans and as such someone who plays less than half the games is a luxury we can’t afford.

Dai probably told the club he was leaving before the playoffs started hence why Arnold played instead.
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« Reply #361 on: July 05, 2020, 14:35:54 pm »

No matter how much Curle says it wasn’t financial with Turnbull, everything he said showed it clearly was. Turnbull wasn’t just the highest earner at the club from my understanding he was one of the highest earners in league two and wasn’t massively far off the £4K a week Adam Rooney is being paid by Salford. Whilst it does sound a bit silly that we didn’t even try to offer him something and seemed to assume he’d be less motivated... My guess is some preliminary discussions were had and they weren’t remotely close.

Macca, yeah he played an important part in the playoff games but he didn’t play enough games to justify keeping him around. I’d imagine the priority for the squad will be to have a smaller squad of first team quality supplemented by the academy products and a few loans and as such someone who plays less than half the games is a luxury we can’t afford.

Dai probably told the club he was leaving before the playoffs started hence why Arnold played instead.

I think that is a very good assessment of what likely happened in each case.
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« Reply #362 on: July 05, 2020, 14:48:03 pm »

Expect Hoskins to delay resigning, until he finds out where Turnbull ends up.

I cant see why anyone would care if he did. Don't get me wrong he's been good servant, however he's found his level and very replaceable
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« Reply #363 on: July 05, 2020, 17:03:58 pm »

I cant see why anyone would care if he did. Don't get me wrong he's been good servant, however he's found his level and very replaceable

He is our leading scorer all the same.
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« Reply #364 on: July 05, 2020, 18:08:19 pm »

No matter how much Curle says it wasn’t financial with Turnbull, everything he said showed it clearly was. Turnbull wasn’t just the highest earner at the club from my understanding he was one of the highest earners in league two and wasn’t massively far off the £4K a week Adam Rooney is being paid by Salford. Whilst it does sound a bit silly that we didn’t even try to offer him something and seemed to assume he’d be less motivated... My guess is some preliminary discussions were had and they weren’t remotely close.

Macca, yeah he played an important part in the playoff games but he didn’t play enough games to justify keeping him around. I’d imagine the priority for the squad will be to have a smaller squad of first team quality supplemented by the academy products and a few loans and as such someone who plays less than half the games is a luxury we can’t afford.

Dai probably told the club he was leaving before the playoffs started hence why Arnold played instead.

Probably offering nothing would be received better than offering Turnbull less than 50% of what he was on previously.
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« Reply #365 on: July 06, 2020, 08:35:57 am »

No matter how much Curle says it wasn’t financial with Turnbull, everything he said showed it clearly was. Turnbull wasn’t just the highest earner at the club from my understanding he was one of the highest earners in league two and wasn’t massively far off the £4K a week Adam Rooney is being paid by Salford. Whilst it does sound a bit silly that we didn’t even try to offer him something and seemed to assume he’d be less motivated... My guess is some preliminary discussions were had and they weren’t remotely close.

Macca, yeah he played an important part in the playoff games but he didn’t play enough games to justify keeping him around. I’d imagine the priority for the squad will be to have a smaller squad of first team quality supplemented by the academy products and a few loans and as such someone who plays less than half the games is a luxury we can’t afford.

Dai probably told the club he was leaving before the playoffs started hence why Arnold played instead.

I think KC identified that it was an entirely financial decision Turnbull left .
If you think he was behind KVV and Taylor in earnings at the time , it shows you how much we were over paying players to come here at one stage and how far we under performed .
Those days are gone for most clubs now but i see Bolton are still paying over the odds despite their position.
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« Reply #366 on: July 06, 2020, 08:52:29 am »

I think KC identified that it was an entirely financial decision Turnbull left .
If you think he was behind KVV and Taylor in earnings at the time , it shows you how much we were over paying players to come here at one stage and how far we under performed .
Those days are gone for most clubs now but i see Bolton are still paying over the odds despite their position.

I agree - KC has said it was purely financial with turnbull
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« Reply #367 on: July 06, 2020, 10:56:19 am »

It wouldn't surprise me if Ryan Watson wasn't playing in our claret next season...
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« Reply #368 on: July 06, 2020, 11:27:54 am »

It wouldn't surprise me if Ryan Watson wasn't playing in our claret next season...

What makes you say that mate?
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« Reply #369 on: July 06, 2020, 12:34:27 pm »

What makes you say that mate?

I haven't any inside information.
He's a solid player, 7+/10 each time he plays, the sort that goes about his business without being extravagant and I believe will have attracted attention.
His goal in the final and performances in the play-offs would have also made other clubs notice him.
Aside from his performances, the dyed hair would have been an indication that he was probably wanting to be noticed.
We could get some good money for him.
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« Reply #370 on: July 06, 2020, 15:12:28 pm »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/kc_new_contract/   Grin Cool
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« Reply #371 on: July 06, 2020, 15:46:16 pm »

Obviously I am one of KC’s biggest critics - not on a personal note but only because of the style of football .
In the grand scheme of things , I am pleased he has signed a new contract because stability means a lot when you gain promotion at our level .
When we play with commitment and show the mentality we displayed in the last 2 games I can stomach the football . I just think it’s hard to maintain that over a season and when it goes against you it’s dire .
I am pleased for KC though and it is deserved on the back of how it turned out in the end .
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« Reply #372 on: July 06, 2020, 15:54:39 pm »

We will continue to make difficult decisions..... Shocked Shocked

Is that manager speak for ‘ you won’t see Charlie Goode in claret again’

I wonder....
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« Reply #373 on: July 06, 2020, 16:18:29 pm »

Will be nice to see the same manager in place for next season. Last two times we've been promoted we lost the manager both times. Let's see if stability is the key to building a future league one team.
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« Reply #374 on: July 06, 2020, 16:31:36 pm »

Will be nice to see the same manager in place for next season. Last two times we've been promoted we lost the manager both times. Let's see if stability is the key to building a future league one team.
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« Reply #375 on: July 06, 2020, 18:34:37 pm »

I cant see why anyone would care if he did. Don't get me wrong he's been good servant, however he's found his level and very replaceable

Hoskins is a VERY important player in KC's way of playing and is not easily replaceable. Even though he wasn't our best player in either the Cheltenham or Exeter games, he played well in both and I don't think it's a coincidence that we lost the only playoff game he didn't feature in (and when he was replaced by a technically more gifted player). He's a much better and more important player than a lot give him credit for on here and every manager since Wilder has seen his value..... oh, and he's still getting better.
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« Reply #376 on: July 06, 2020, 19:40:14 pm »

For the last few years quite a few people have been rightly saying that the club needed to find an identity. KC has definitely given us that, even if not everyone likes it Tongue

























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« Reply #377 on: July 10, 2020, 21:22:33 pm »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/back_room_staff/
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« Reply #378 on: July 11, 2020, 04:21:12 am »

For the last few years quite a few people have been rightly saying that the club needed to find an identity. KC has definitely given us that, even if not everyone likes it

If I had to choose between Austin's pretty losing football or KC's direct promotion winning football it is amazing how my principles go out of the window!
I admit to being two faced, because the Cheltenham and Exeter games were superb and blots out my memory of some of the games earlier in the season!

I would hope that KC will develop a more pleasing expansive football from our new position of strength, especially if two or three of our promising youngsters are involved.

























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« Reply #379 on: July 11, 2020, 09:09:57 am »



I suspect they are not good enough just yet. Pollock is the nearest to making the first team squad. Who is your benchmark player ‘a la Jacobs’?
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