Coronavirus COVID 19?

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

Please define the difference between making a statement like your post and putting a smiley face at the end, or speaking the statement out loud then laughing, both can, and should be, defined as racist.

Just purely out of interest. Can you define the racist part of his post.. I do have an idea in which direction you will go.. Purely for moderation purposes please. 

[tcobb]

The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.

[Air-Dan]

The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.

The joke was that us British have bigged up our own involvement in developing a Covid vaccine when actually the credit should be given to others.

It's giving due credit to people from minority backgrounds, if anything.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.

I sort of get where you’re going. I just think you might have missed the sentiment. Far from being a cheap use of those involved for laugh. It aims to point out the classic parochialism of the UK government, emphasising the lack of value attached to the real people/organisations that have brought it about, right up to the administration of the drug. Illustrating, albeit through the medium of humour, that it was a varied and diverse pathway that lead to the development and delivery of the vaccine. Not Boris, or the UK government.

The UK's entire role in the arrival of this vaccine, extends no further than spending our money on it.

[The 12th Marquis of Sixfields]

The part of the post that is unnecessary is  "..... Asian nurse administers the German developed, Belgium manufactured jab to an Irish woman...." why does anybodies race/country of origin, in this case Asian and Irish have to do with the Covid Vaccine ? Its just using that person/s race/origin to get cheap laughs. Unacceptable.

It is clearly a dig at the British. You're looking for something that isn't there. It is exactly the same gag as the "Xenophobic Englishman that watches his Russian owned football team full of Europeans on his Japanese tv drinking Belgian lager while eating Indian food"

[guest49]

It’s easy to have a pop at the government but they are making it increasingly complicated with the tiers.
So tier 3 retail now stays open, hence the cross border spreading event at Rushden Lakes.
There’s now talk of a tier 5! One at a time in the kitchen?
I’m sure there’s a good chance we’ll move into tier 4 for New Year.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

Had the Vaccine. Oxford AstraZeneca one. Couple of days of aches, but fine now. Anybody else had it?

[BackOfTheNet]

Had the Vaccine. Oxford AstraZeneca one. Couple of days of aches, but fine now. Anybody else had it?

I've not but my parents and wife have. None of them had any side effects at all, apart from my wife's arm aching a bit when she laid on it the next night, but that's normal for any injection.

[guest49]

I know a lot of people who have had it, a couple have had both jabs (the booster) and no horror stories.
It's a pity it has come too late for so many but sounds as though most people will get it by September.
Our big vaccination centre on Moulton Park should hopefully open soon.

[BackOfTheNet]

I know a lot of people who have had it, a couple have had both jabs (the booster) and no horror stories.
It's a pity it has come too late for so many but sounds as though most people will get it by September.
Our big vaccination centre on Moulton Park should hopefully open soon.

Ah, is that where it is going to be? I guess somewhere like the Benham Arena would be ideal.

As an aside, I've had to stop reading social media comments on news stories about covid as I get too irritated with the tin foil hat brigade denying covid exists, it's all a conspiracy, the vaccine isn't properly tested, everyone going along with things is a sheep and so on, often "backed up" by some random screenshot of some other d1ckhead's baseless claim that is debunked within 2 seconds of typing it into Snopes or fullfact but is gobbled up by the other crazies.

Beyond my irritation though, it actually scares me a little bit. Everyone I know that I've spoken to about it can't wait to get the vaccine, but I'm equally aware that I may be in a bit of a bubble of pretty well educated, well read people who have done their own proper research and reached a balanced conclusion on the matter.

Are there really genuine volumes of people out there who will refuse to take the vaccine, or is it just a case of the anti-vaxxers being far more vociferous on social media? I hope it's the latter, because if there really is a lack of take up it's going to take forever to get out of this mess.

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Ah, is that where it is going to be? I guess somewhere like the Benham Arena would be ideal.

As an aside, I've had to stop reading social media comments on news stories about covid as I get too irritated with the tin foil hat brigade denying covid exists, it's all a conspiracy, the vaccine isn't properly tested, everyone going along with things is a sheep and so on, often "backed up" by some random screenshot of some other d1ckhead's baseless claim that is debunked within 2 seconds of typing it into Snopes or fullfact but is gobbled up by the other crazies.

Beyond my irritation though, it actually scares me a little bit. Everyone I know that I've spoken to about it can't wait to get the vaccine, but I'm equally aware that I may be in a bit of a bubble of pretty well educated, well read people who have done their own proper research and reached a balanced conclusion on the matter.

Are there really genuine volumes of people out there who will refuse to take the vaccine, or is it just a case of the anti-vaxxers being far more vociferous on social media? I hope it's the latter, because if there really is a lack of take up it's going to take forever to get out of this mess.

As in the majority of disputes, invariably it's the noisy/disruptive minority element that attracts the headlines, which achieves their aim.  From my experience across the country, the majority of the population: are believers, abide by the Government guidelines and want to have the vaccine 'in their arms' ASAP. 
The minority are 'spoiling' it for the majority and have had the effect of prolonging something that could have been under a better level of control a lot sooner.

[BackOfTheNet]

As in the majority of disputes, invariably it's the noisy/disruptive minority element that attracts the headlines, which achieves their aim.  From my experience across the country, the majority of the population: are believers, abide by the Government guidelines and want to have the vaccine 'in their arms' ASAP. 
The minority are 'spoiling' it for the majority and have had the effect of prolonging something that could have been under a better level of control a lot sooner.

I hope you are right. It's the sheer wilful ignorance and outright stupidity that some of them wear as a badge of honour that gets me. See, I'm getting wound up now just thinking about it; you can see why I've had to stop looking at them! 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

I hope you are right. It's the sheer wilful ignorance and outright stupidity that some of them wear as a badge of honour that gets me. See, I'm getting wound up now just thinking about it; you can see why I've had to stop looking at them! 

We should round up the 'non-believers' into a restricted and enclosed area, introduce a person into that area who has tested positive and see how long it is before they are calling for the assistance of the many millions who do believe.

[singcobb]

If they believe it is a government ruse to gain mind control over the people and refuse the vaccine they should also be refused care when they catch the virus. Until the government introduce punative measures that will make people think twice about breaking the lockdown then there is always going to be a spread of the virus beyond what you would expect.

[BackOfTheNet]

We should round up the 'non-believers' into a restricted and enclosed area, introduce a person into that area who has tested positive and see how long it is before they are calling for the assistance of the many millions who do believe.

Slightly Negan-esque but I'd support it!

[guest3338]

We should round up the 'non-believers' into a restricted and enclosed area, introduce a person into that area who has tested positive and see how long it is before they are calling for the assistance of the many millions who do believe.

I know of an NHS nurse who was desisting the vaccine. Her family has been trying to persuade her to have it, she has worked on Covid wards as part of a secondment at Walsgrave. I dont know why she is opposed to it, I regard her as ultimately sensible otherwise.
I also know of a care home worker at my elderly aunts home who will not have it. My aunt has had it aged 96 without l effect.
A good friend of mine who works in private healthcare in germany will not have it unless he's forced to by the authorities, nor will his wife or their eenage son, but he's a wacko and no one is telling him otherwise.
I'm first inline when my time comes.

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Slightly Negan-esque but I'd support it!

I had to look up your reference. 
I respect those who say that they won't have the vaccine; that is a choice and you can't/shouldn't force anyone to have things stuck in them that they don't want.  That is assault.  We can only encourage them.
It's aimed at those 'non-believers' that are refusing to accept that there is a COVID-19 pandemic crisis, despite the overwhelming evidence; those that are refusing to take or are deliberately contravening the basic precautions as described in the guidelines and subsequently not helping the global 'battle'.

[The Lone Heckler]

You can twist lots of words and numbers around to suit any argument. What I said was a light heart jest with not the slightest hint of racism but, unfortunately, you seem to have a sense of humour bypass
    Just a question for tcobb, if someone said "I went to the Chinese restaurant last night"  do you take that as racist ?

tcobb is a bit of a sensitive soul. I saw nothing wrong in your humerous view of the situation. I'm sure if we trawled through his/her post history there would be something we could twist to fit an agenda as well.

[Deepcut Cobbler]

An old mate of mine, relatively fit and in good health, said to his wife that he "felt a bit ill with a bit of man-flu" 11 days ago. 
Two days ago he died from COVID-19!
Nine days from feeling a 'bit ill' to death.   

[BackOfTheNet]

An old mate of mine, relatively fit and in good health, said to his wife that he "felt a bit ill with a bit of man-flu" 11 days ago. 
Two days ago he died from COVID-19!
Nine days from feeling a 'bit ill' to death.   

I'm sorry to hear that DC. That is what's scary about this though, isn't it? You just don't know how it will affect you if you get it. I've been fortunate so far in that I've been relatively unscathed by it; no one in my family has had it and my parents have had their first jab, as has my wife and mother in law with my father in law due to have his next week. I think I qualify for group 6 or something because I have asthma, and I'll feel a lot happier when I've had it!

I do know quite a few people who've had it but fortunately they've all either had relatively minor symptoms, been asymptomatic or have been quite poorly but come through it ok. Going beyond that though, people I know have had friends and family die from it, including one poor sod in his 30s with no known health problems. It just seems arbitrary how badly you are affected. I guess there must be some factor that determines that but until they figure it out it's all very uncertain and unpleasant.