Coronavirus COVID 19?

[Melbourne Cobbler]

Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.

😂😂😂.

[southofthecounty]

Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.

I'm sure it was an accident. Well, nearly sure. Does she read your posts on here by the way?

[Tabasco Kid]

Had the first jab of the “blood clotter” a few weeks ago at about 5pm on the Saturday. I felt a little bit of flu like symptoms coming on, so the missus popped me a couple of flu pills about 2pm on the Sunday. About an hour later it really kicked in, I felt wiped out. Kept falling asleep the missus put a blanket over me and let me sleep it out on the sofa. I woke up about 10pm, still felt zombified so went to bed. Felt ok the next day though. Turns out my dopey missus gave me the night time pills, unbelievable.

Had she been on the Baileys again?

[Melbourne Cobbler]

Had she been on the Baileys again?

Does a bear sh1t in the woods?

[Tabasco Kid]

Apart from Koalas, do you have any bears down there?

[singcobb]

Well, no real surprise. There is now a black market in forged vaccination certificates in the fatherland, at the end of the day this is going to be everywhere as people with no vaccination are excluded from events or travel. Unfortunately to do such exclusion is tantermount to facism.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

Well, no real surprise. There is now a black market in forged vaccination certificates in the fatherland, at the end of the day this is going to be everywhere as people with no vaccination are excluded from events or travel. Unfortunately to do such exclusion is tantermount to facism.

I’m not sure about over there. But over here, I’m sure they can check the validity of your vaccine via your NHS number if required. My vaccine, whilst done at work, was still registered with the NHS by the provider.

[singcobb]

I’m not sure about over there. But over here, I’m sure they can check the validity of your vaccine via your NHS number if required. My vaccine, whilst done at work, was still registered with the NHS by the provider.

The problem comes down to is it legal/moral to penalise people for not having the vaccine?

[southofthecounty]

The problem comes down to is it legal/moral to penalise people for not having the vaccine?

To jail or fine them? Certainly not. To prevent them infecting themselves and others? Yeah, I think so.

[Melbourne Cobbler]

It’s the moral dilemma. Do you support peoples freedom of choice whilst potentially exposing the population to increased risk, and to some extent imposing the consequence of that choice on others? Or do you force people to vaccinate abusing their liberties and protect the masses as much as reasonably practicable? The individual answer will invariably come down to circumstance. If either you or a loved one are at significant risk you are more likely to answer differently to a person who is in the position that neither they or loved ones fall into that category?

My personal view is that given the amount of global deaths and long term medical impact on significant numbers, as a society we have a collective duty of care to ensure we are taking all reasonable steps to minimise the risk for the majority. That usually means following the recommendations of persons and bodies qualified to make a balanced assessment and final judgment. However, whichever option is most likely to deliver the best result by percentage is generally perceived to be the correct one.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

It’s the moral dilemma. Do you support peoples freedom of choice whilst potentially exposing the population to increased risk, and to some extent imposing the consequence of that choice on others? Or do you force people to vaccinate abusing their liberties and protect the masses as much as reasonably practicable? The individual answer will invariably come down to circumstance. If either you or a loved one are at significant risk you are more likely to answer differently to a person who is in the position that neither they or loved ones fall into that category?

My personal view is that given the amount of global deaths and long term medical impact on significant numbers, as a society we have a collective duty of care to ensure we are taking all reasonable steps to minimise the risk for the majority. That usually means following the recommendations of persons and bodies qualified to make a balanced assessment and final judgment. However, whichever option is most likely to deliver the best result by percentage is generally perceived to be the correct one.

I’ll give that a hell yeah

[BackOfTheNet]

It's a moot point as I'm sure it will never happen, but I'd be in favour of vaccines being mandatory for everyone without a valid medical reason for having one. In the absence of that I see nothing wrong in making things difficult for the anti vax brigade to go about their business by introducing vaccine passports for international travel, festivals, theatres, nightclubs etc.

I'm sick of hearing people in their twenties bleat on about the risk being greater than the reward for them as they won't get that ill from it. Yeah, you're probably right, you won't, but by not being vaccinated you are allowing the virus to hop from one person to another and the risk of a further mutation increases with every hop, increasing the likelihood of it either reaching a stage where it DOES affect them or, more likely, reach a stage where it can get past the vaccine which will put us right back where we started from.

It's a case of taking a tiny risk for the greater good, and some of the poor little flowers think it's too much of a risk for their precious little selves.

[singcobb]

It's a moot point as I'm sure it will never happen, but I'd be in favour of vaccines being mandatory for everyone without a valid medical reason for having one. In the absence of that I see nothing wrong in making things difficult for the anti vax brigade to go about their business by introducing vaccine passports for international travel, festivals, theatres, nightclubs etc.

I'm sick of hearing people in their twenties bleat on about the risk being greater than the reward for them as they won't get that ill from it. Yeah, you're probably right, you won't, but by not being vaccinated you are allowing the virus to hop from one person to another and the risk of a further mutation increases with every hop, increasing the likelihood of it either reaching a stage where it DOES affect them or, more likely, reach a stage where it can get past the vaccine which will put us right back where we started from.

It's a case of taking a tiny risk for the greater good, and some of the poor little flowers think it's too much of a risk for their precious little selves.

I love it when they claim it wont be a problem for those in the 18-30 bracket, because that's a crock of shít. The infection figures do nothing to support that theory. And WTF are they going to do now with the increasing infection rate of the Indian variant?

[Tabasco Kid]

I love it when they claim it wont be a problem for those in the 18-30 bracket, because that's a crock of shít. The infection figures do nothing to support that theory. And WTF are they going to do now with the increasing infection rate of the Indian variant?

Nothing. You have to get back to normal, if you dont, the economy explodes. We are billions in debt, how much more do you want?
Have your jab, get back to work. Its nothing more than a nasty flu.

[Melbourne Cobbler]

Not been reported in the UK yet but psycho-snob is in trouble again, brains of a rocking horse.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-19/katie-hopkins-visa-cancelled-deported-channel-seven/100303648

[guest49]

Day 1 observations of 'no restrictions'
Workplace hasn't really changed...2m social distancing, mandatory masks when leaving your work station but temp checking on entry removed.
Out and about in shops, it appears the vast majority of customers (I've seen) are still wearing masks but staff have quickly dumped them on the whole.

[The 12th Marquis of Sixfields]

Yeah, I guess there is a difference between wearing them for 20 minutes while you do your shop and having them on for 8 hours straight.

[guest3429]

Just a perspective from a small island in SE Asia.

As Thailand scrambles around for a coherent plan for accepting tourism again they have been quickly pumping vaccines into the now "open" islands of Phuket, Koh Samui, Koh Phangan and Koh Tao before other areas of the country, to the point the island has taken tougher security measures as non locals and Myanmar immigrants have been sneaking in, coming ashore on private boats. You now have to prove you are a long term resident to gain a vaccine here.

As a note they have only been providing Sinovac or Sinopharm to Myanmar and Cambodian workers and some Thais but providing AstraZeneca to westerners and Thais who prefer it.

Every person on the island has at least had one jab, or at least those who want it. There is a huge group of young, wealthy (but playing poor) western, trustafarian "hippies" and yoga nutters who are not just deniers they are raging war on those who have had one. They will not go near anyone who has the vaccine as they shed.  I had to collect a guest from a yoga school yesterday and had forgot to remove my mask, the glares I received! Luckily I hadn't worn my flip flops as shoes are banned too! #boxoffrogs

Their anti stance will continue until mummy and daddy require them to return home to Islington.

Oh and the Crypto miners here think its all a financial reset and don't believe covid even exists.

Same as at home really. 

Coming to a town near you soon....

[BackOfTheNet]

I wasn't sure whether to post this in here or in a new topic under the Cobblers section, but the press are reporting today that you'll have to be double jabbed to be allowed into matches. I can't see the club are going to be pleased about this, not least because of the amount of admin it's going to create for them.

Personally, I think it's a good thing and I'd extend it to entry to most venues and events - in the absence of a way to make the vaccine compulsory this is the next best way to force people's hands!

Edit: I don't think this will apply to us a they appear to be talking about venues with a capacity >20k.