Coronavirus COVID 19?

[guest3687]

The latest available analysis is December 2022.

In England, there are 59 deaths registered involving COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use, of which 51 have this ICD-10 code as the underlying cause of death.

In Wales, there is 1 death registered with COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use as the underlying cause.
From the office for national statistics ONS

[singcobb]

There have been reported 7,065,867[4] (updated 29 September 2024) confirmed COVID-induced deaths worldwide. As of January 2023, taking into account likely COVID induced deaths via excess deaths, the 95% confidence interval suggests the pandemic to have caused between 19.1 and 36 million deaths.[5][6]
Via Wikipedia

"COVID-induced" Does that mean that the victim had health problems that were exasperated by the virus?

[guest3687]

"COVID-induced" Does that mean that the victim had health problems that were exasperated by the virus?

In the UK, Covid was recorded as a “cause of death” if a person died within 28 days of a positive test. I don’t know about other countries and how they reported deaths.

[Tabasco Kid]

In the UK, Covid was recorded as a “cause of death” if a person died within 28 days of a positive test. I don’t know about other countries and how they reported deaths.

You have more experience than me in this matter, but hows that work then? Could a long standing illness or condition, be recorded as covid induced?
If so, it would appear that the official figures may be way off.

[singcobb]

In the UK, Covid was recorded as a “cause of death” if a person died within 28 days of a positive test. I don’t know about other countries and how they reported deaths.

The reporting here was based on people dying who had no other conditions other than the virus and this was why the death figures here were significantly lower the the UK, however where applicable covid was reported as a contributing factor especially in the case of people suffering from respiratory illnesses, but not the primary cause of death.

[guest3687]

You have more experience than me in this matter, but hows that work then? Could a long standing illness or condition, be recorded as covid induced?
If so, it would appear that the official figures may be way off.

No, but a long term condition could be exacerbated by a Covid infection, for example, you have COPD and type 2 diabetes and you caught COVID, the chances of surviving the Covid infection would be lower due to the other conditions. It’s one of the reasons why Covid related deaths in the UK were as high as they were, it was a governmental decision to record deaths that way

[guest3687]

The reporting here was based on people dying who had no other conditions other than the virus and this was why the death figures here were significantly lower the the UK, however where applicable covid was reported as a contributing factor especially in the case of people suffering from respiratory illnesses, but not the primary cause of death.

Note I said “a cause” and not “the cause”

[singcobb]

Note I said “a cause” and not “the cause”

Yes, but in many cases it was reported as the primary cause, later to be corrected by the coroner.

[Tabasco Kid]

No, but a long term condition could be exacerbated by a Covid infection, for example, you have COPD and type 2 diabetes and you caught COVID, the chances of surviving the Covid infection would be lower due to the other conditions. It’s one of the reasons why Covid related deaths in the UK were as high as they were, it was a governmental decision to record deaths that way

Interesting. So the cause of death, would be listed as Covid, when that was only a contributing, and not a sole factor. Thats one of the reasons that I dont trust stats, as they can all be twisted around to suit an agenda. I suppose that they they had to justify the costs of the barely used Nightingale hospitals somehow.

[Melbourne Cobbler]

I don't know why people take the advice of people in the medical profession when there are perfectly good investigative journalist types like that Alex Jones of Infowars fame revealing the real truth. Apart from making tens of millions of dollars in advertising revenue what exactly does he have to gain by endorsing any so called "inaccurate conspiracy theories"?

On a seperate note the latest conspiracy doing the rounds is that all of these theories are started by people in it for the money, but I don't believe it.

[guest3687]

Interesting. So the cause of death, would be listed as Covid, when that was only a contributing, and not a sole factor. Thats one of the reasons that I dont trust stats, as they can all be twisted around to suit an agenda. I suppose that they they had to justify the costs of the barely used Nightingale hospitals somehow.

Only if there were no other medical conditions. Perfectly healthy people died of COVID, it caused multiple organ failure. If there were no co morbidities then COVID was recorded as the cause of, rather than a contributing cause

[guest3687]

I’d rather not go over it again, it was an horrendous time and I’d like to try and forget it 👍

[MCHammer]

As of 10 April 2023, a total of 50 648 deaths caused by ‘COVID vaccines’ had been reported in EudraVigilance – broken down by disease (heart conditions, central nervous system disorders, etc.).

For everyone that might want clarity on this figure here's the full context of where it's cut and pasted from....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html

and here is the answer to the question....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201-ASW_EN.html

[BackOfTheNet]

For everyone that might want clarity on this figure here's the full context of where it's cut and pasted from....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html

and here is the answer to the question....

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201-ASW_EN.html

Nicely researched. Always better to pull numbers from the answer rather than the question, I find!

So basically the maximum amount of people to have died within the EU due to complications arising from the covid vaccine is less than 12k. Obviously, that's still a lot of people but a vaccine is just a form of medicine, and pretty much all medicines can lead to adverse reactions in people.

According to this https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinations?country=~OWID_EUR

by the same date there had been 1.39bn vaccine doses administered in Europe. Granted, one is quoting EU numbers and the other is just stating Europe so it's probably not quite comparing apples with apples, but broadly speaking we're in the same ballpark. Which means that statistically you have around a 0.00086% chance of dying by being vaccinated.

Which is only 0.00085% more likely than being hit by lightning in Britain!  (according to numbers quoted by the BMJ on the frequency of people getting hit by lightning)

[Bugbrooke Boy]

I see Boris is convinced the virus was started in a Chinese Lab. Not being led by the science now, then. Also, not sure you van believe anything habitual liars say.