The Hotel End
April 19, 2024, 19:20:02 pm
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
  Home Help Search Arcade Downloads Gallery Links Staff List Calendar Login Register Chat  

Stay Safe (& Alert !)

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Stay Safe (& Alert !)  (Read 7898 times)
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
Vintage Cobbler
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2531


View Profile
Badges: (View All)
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2020, 08:07:18 am »

Let me balance the comments of MCHammer with some of my own.

There have been well publicised scandals involving charities with well known names.  The examples quoted by MCH happened to occur in the USA where litigation is a past time.  Comparisons with the USA are dangerous. NTFC CT is registered in England, as is the Supporters Trust, and so subject to the laws of this country.    NTFC CT is a company limited by guarantee, registered at Companies House under the Companies Act 2006. It is also registered with the Charity Commission and so subject to the Charities Act 2011.  The Supporters Trust is not a charity but formerly an industrial & provident society, it is now governed by the Co-operative & Community Benefit Societies Act 2014 and registered with the Financial Conduct Authority.

I think this matter needs to be seen in its proper context.  Both NTFC CT & the Supporters Trust are well known to each other.  Currently, the Supporters Trust is donating the profits from its monthly draw to NTFC CT. What was offered by the Supporters Trust and declined by NTFC CT publicly was the receipt of the profits to be earned by the Supporters Trust from the sale of face masks.  The public refection was made within 2-3 hours of the Supporters Trust’s announcement.  I have some experience of charities, how they are run and the decision making process and I would comment that NTFC CT’s decision was made with unusual haste.  NTFC CT has a board of 9 charity trustees, so which of that number made the speedy decision and wrote the public rejection?  Now I see NTFC CT from its follow up announcement on its website is closing ranks after receiving some criticism.  I doubt that we will ever know what went on and if there was internal decision making compliance  The decision of NTFC CT must have caused long-term damage in a very public way to its relationship with the Supporters Trust and even if there are those who consider the decision was right the manner in which it was made is highly questionable.  So, was this rejection justified? 

As I comment, it is not as though the two organisations are unknown to each other. MCH raises various concerns including adherence to British standards, questions if someone is profiting from the charitable venture, where the masks are made, is the material safe, will “they” (whoever they may be) run off with the money and so on.  Let me answer based on what I know and let me also make clear this is not a project with which I have been involved.

•   UK Government advice is that the wearing of “face coverings” is recommended in private places such as supermarkets and public transport.  It comes down that the clear Government advice is that wearing something is better than nothing. “British standards” do not come into the advice.  The wearing of a face mask does not stop the wearer becoming infected but if the wearer is carrying the virus it may prevent him passing the virus to another person by stopping the passage of air-born and invisible droplets from the wearer.  To quote Trish Greenhalgh, Professor of Primary Care at Oxford University:

"The science on this is clear: Covid-19 is most commonly transmitted by droplets emitted when we cough, sneeze, shout, sing and even just breathe in close proximity to others.

Cloth face coverings are highly effective at blocking droplets coming out of the mouth and nose. They're not perfect, but if you can stop 90% or 95% of the droplets this will cause a very dramatic reduction in the number of people who catch the virus.”


•   The only organisation that would profit would have been NTFC CT.  Obviously, the manufacturer is a business and will be fully entitled to make a profit from the sale to the Supporters Trust.  The legal relationship is manufacturer to Trust and Trust to customer.  NTFC CT is involved only to the extent that the customer when placing an order would know the profit from the sale would go to another NTFC connected organisation and this may have encouraged more sales than would otherwise have been the case. 

•   The manufacturer is not a sweat in the Far East. It is an UK company and it is masking masks to the same specifications for Wycombe Wanderers’ Supporters Trust and, I am told, some Premier League clubs and other sporting companies. 

•   I think the comments above answer the question of someone running off with the money.

Whatever the truth may be as to how this situation happened it never have arisen because the losers are the those who benefit from NTFC CT’s activities.  Like it or not we are all brand NTFC - club, charity and supporters. 

Now some other charity will benefit and, ironically, that will most probably be local health charity.


Report Spam   Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by EzPortal
Parental guidance is urged as this messageboard may not be suitable for all persons especially those under the age of 16 as the forums may contain words, phrases and expressions not considered appropriate for a younger audience so please express caution. If any posts in the forums offend you, please let us know and we will look at them and if we agree with your complaint, we will remove them. You are personally responsible and potentially liable for the contents of your posting and may be sued should your posting contain content of a defamatory or other illegal nature. Every message posted leaves a traceable IP number. We check the forums at various times of the day and remove offending posts. Other supporters are welcome but abusive or silly posts will be removed and the offenders potentially barred from future access to the site. We advise that you never reveal any personal information about yourself or anyone else (for example: telephone number, home address or email address), and please do not include postal addresses of any kind. This messageboard is not endorsed or in any way affiliated with Northampton Town FC. All postings on this board become copyright of The Hotel End & may not be reproduced without the permission of the board administrator. By signing up to this message board you agree to this. The Hotel End cannot be held liable for the actions or postings of its members. The Hotel End reserve the right to edit, delete, move or close any thread for any reason. The Hotel End may disclose user information to government authorities at their discretion or when required by law. The Hotel End may also disclose user information when The Hotel End has reason to believe that someone is causing injury to or interference with its rights or property, other The Hotel End users, or anyone else that could be harmed by such activities. By registering for The Hotel End, you agree to indemnify The Hotel End its representatives, and agents, and hold them harmless from any and all claims (including claims for legal fees) which may arise from your participation on the The Hotel End. You also agree that The Hotel End is not responsible for the materials posted by users of The Hotel End. In addition, you grant The Hotel End and its affiliates, worldwide, royalty-free perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display any message or content posted on The Hotel End and/or e-mail sent by you to The Hotel End (in whole or in part). The Hotel End reserves the right to make the rules up as it goes along. Thank you - The Hotel End I love Quidco
Bookmark this site!
Powered by SMF | SMF © 2016, Simple Machines
Privacy Policy