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« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2020, 07:33:15 am »

Rumours i've seen so far are...

George Thomas (ex Cov/Leicester)
Jamie Devitt (again! - still got a year left at Blackpool so not sure we would pay a fee for him)
Emmanuel Osadebe

Probably all bollox with their agents just touting them about
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« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2020, 08:02:14 am »

It is reported that approaches have already been made to some players and will be stepped up now we know what league we are in.

Complications like not knowing when the season will start makes planning uncertain.

My priorities would be the signing of the two loan players Wharton and Morton. Adding two more strikers with pace, two footballing midfielders and a left back...........easy?
Plus another centre half to replace Turnbull
 
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« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2020, 08:22:13 am »

Plus another centre half to replace Turnbull
 

Probably will need three new centre backs won't we, if three at the back is retained?

Jay Williams gone too, remember.
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« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2020, 08:29:56 am »

Rumours i've seen so far are...

George Thomas (ex Cov/Leicester)
Jamie Devitt (again! - still got a year left at Blackpool so not sure we would pay a fee for him)
Emmanuel Osadebe

Probably all bollox with their agents just touting them about

This is somewhat tongue in cheek, but he just helped me get promotion to the Championship in football manager, so knowing nothing about him in real life I'd be a fan of that.
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« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2020, 09:15:31 am »

Just seen via the Chron that Curle's already met with one player about signing and has started other convos

"I met with a player on Wednesday and I'm due to have another meeting with him, either on Friday or Monday, but ultimately the decision comes down to - does he see this as the right move for him?"

Have to say one thing I have liked about Curle has been recruitment. JFH winter window of madness saw a lot brought in for a payday or ridiculous contracts at this level. Curle has genuinely looked strict on signing players who want to be there and will listen to him.
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« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2020, 13:12:06 pm »

We have lost 16 players, 13 released and the 3 loans going back to their parent clubs. Of these 16 I would only expect 8 to be replaced as 6 of the released players were youngsters  and together with Hall-Johnson and Waters and not close to the first team. This also takes 8 players off the wage bill but most would have been low earners.
KC has peviously stated wanting 2 players for each position so with this in mind I see us wanting the following replacements based on the following criteria:-
1.The 3 players offered new contracts accept.
2.The players already under contract for next season remain. If we are successful in moving any of them on then they would also need replacing.
3.We continue to play 3-4-1-2 as per the last few games.
Goalkeeper. I hope that Cornell's replacement is going to be someone who can challenge Arnold for the jersey and not a cheap understudy to sit on the bench. Cornell had faults but also made some stunning instinctive saves, have not yet seen these from Arnold but he coped admirably with what little he had to do in the last 2 games. I prefer a keeper who is going to come for crosses and command his area rather than one who does not come off his line.
Strikers. 2 needed with hopefully 1 being the return of Morton, the other being a similar type of player as we have 2 target men.
Player behind the front 2. I assume this will be Hoskins role now with Warburton as back up.
Wide men. We have Harriman who has performed consistently, usually on the right. Marshall also usually on the right but either capable of playing on the left. Assuming Adams maintains form and remains injury free he will be a fixture on the other side. Young Roberts and Martin also left sided. With some players being flexible which side they play and also Hoskins can play wide will KC think he has enough cover?
Midfield 2. Watson will continue to be first choice providing he maintains form and fitness.which means we need a replacement for McCormack - preferably a similar tough tackler. Lines, McWilliams and Pollock as back up.
Defensive back 3. Only Goode remains and apart from Jones being here for a few weeks we have not had cover but Harriman and Martin have both played there when needed. In fact I know that we have not seen Martin play much but I thought when he played in the back 3 he probably had his best game. Overall I think we need to sign 3 with 1 hopefully being the return of Wharton.
Comments have been made regarding some of the players contracted for next season but we have had past players who have not impressed in their first season but then come good. Remember CW put JJO't on the transfer list.
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« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2020, 13:36:14 pm »

Has Keith allowed Turnbull  to go (surprised me) to free up wages to allow us to make an offer for Wharton?  He would be an excellent permanent  signing and Blackburn do not seem to need  him.
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« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2020, 14:10:30 pm »

Turnbull was the last big money signing by JFH during the 5U Sport era - where the money never actually materialised!

KC said Turnbull has been on "high end L1 wages" ever since signing and thought it would be insulting to offer him such a reduced wage and that he probably would not have been incentivized like he has been on a reduced wage.

I absolutely love Turnbull and would have offered him something but completely understand the reasoning behind it.

KC has dramatically reduced the wage bill since coming in, and has now got us promoted on a significantly reduced budget from the one he inherited. He's maintaining good house keeping which is exactly what's required more than ever in the current climate.

There are going to be hundreds of quality players out of contract so it's up to Simon Tracey etc to find us another Morton/Wharton etc.

At least we ain't got Melville shopping for us!  Grin
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« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2020, 15:34:29 pm »

Turnbull could come back if he can't find a suitable club, to play for us on that reduced contract?  A possibility?
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« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2020, 16:00:45 pm »

You'd think that one year contracts at an affordable level would be popular for both player and club. Player and club benefit and next renegotiation at a point in time when we've got a clearer picture with regard to the virus going forward.
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« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2020, 19:36:53 pm »

Chambers to return to finish his career, as Ipswich are looking for a replacement Championship-level central defender.

Jacobs to pop back on loan (or permanent), as Wigan are up the spout.

A random signing of McGeady from Sunderland, so that we are over-blessed with wide players.

A mad signing of Ravell Morrison on loan from Sheffield United.  (he is not mad.... and he is real quality.  He needs a manager that will take his time with him. A perfect match with Curley-Cobblers).

Sheffield Weds prospect on loan....  Hunt.

Non-league prospects..... Holohan from Hartlepool (like for like with Warburton).  Reprise of Kane Ferdinand.  Adams from Barnet.  Plus... top-tip.... Nolan from Halifax.

You heard it here, first.

That is, aside from my predictions of the success under Curle.  Eat my sh(ee)t, you message-board tw@ts.
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« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2020, 19:42:37 pm »

Are you off your meds?  Try going and lying down in a dark room.
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« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2020, 19:47:38 pm »

Are you off your meds?  Try going and lying down in a dark room.

Thank you for your input.
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« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2020, 20:50:45 pm »

Turnbull could come back if he can't find a suitable club, to play for us on that reduced contract?  A possibility?

That's what I heard
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« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2020, 21:15:50 pm »

Chambers to return to finish his career, as Ipswich are looking for a replacement Championship-level central defender.

Jacobs to pop back on loan (or permanent), as Wigan are up the spout.

A random signing of McGeady from Sunderland, so that we are over-blessed with wide players.

A mad signing of Ravell Morrison on loan from Sheffield United.  (he is not mad.... and he is real quality.  He needs a manager that will take his time with him. A perfect match with Curley-Cobblers).

Sheffield Weds prospect on loan....  Hunt.

Non-league prospects..... Holohan from Hartlepool (like for like with Warburton).  Reprise of Kane Ferdinand.  Adams from Barnet.  Plus... top-tip.... Nolan from Halifax.

You heard it here, first.

That is, aside from my predictions of the success under Curle.  Eat my sh(ee)t, you message-board tw@ts.

McGeady is 34yrs winger
Hunt is possibility only 20yrs midfielder
Chambers is 34yrs central def
Jacobs a possibility especially if Wigan go bust
Ravel Morrison aged 27yrs - midfielder cant see KC entertaining this guy.
Holohan Midfielder doubtful 
Kane Ferdinand - no chance Ex Cobblers who failed here
Charlie Adams - Barnet, another Midfielder  - doubtful
Nolan Halifax - another mid fielder also doubtful

Interesting set of names too many wingers and midfielders not enough scorers let alone defenders.

Keep 'em coming tho'.
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« Reply #75 on: July 03, 2020, 23:29:49 pm »

McGeady is 34yrs winger
Hunt is possibility only 20yrs midfielder
Chambers is 34yrs central def
Jacobs a possibility especially if Wigan go bust
Ravel Morrison aged 27yrs - midfielder cant see KC entertaining this guy.
Holohan Midfielder doubtful 
Kane Ferdinand - no chance Ex Cobblers who failed here
Charlie Adams - Barnet, another Midfielder  - doubtful
Nolan Halifax - another mid fielder also doubtful

Interesting set of names too many wingers and midfielders not enough scorers let alone defenders.

Keep 'em coming tho'.

Old heads required at this level for us to gain stability.

Playing 3-5-2 requires a flood of midfielders.

If we finish next season above 17th, then, that is success.

A couple of big names will come in.... the type of names you think "why did they sign for us?"  But most will be players that you have never heard of (and wished you did, once they play).

My sources?  Usually Mayonnaise-based......
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« Reply #76 on: July 04, 2020, 12:59:40 pm »

KC has said that he has spoken to WBA and Blackburn about the possibility of Morton and Wharton returning next season. Noticably he has not mentioned Olayinka.
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« Reply #77 on: July 04, 2020, 14:46:27 pm »

My prediction is Curle will opt for players who look underwhelming on paper but can thrive on our style of football. (i.e. hardworking and physical) I don't think anyone could have predicted Oliver to be as integral to our season as he was.

And as has been commented elsewhere, given Covid we're likely to see much tighter squads across the league than before. This might mean we'd potentially be able to secure players of a higher calibre just from the allure of job security, especially those getting into their 30s.

Aside from the obvious CB requirements, the priorities for me;

Defensive wing-backs (x2): both as cover for Harriman and a defensive alternative to Adams against bigger clubs.

Energetic DM: straight replacement for Macca but ideally with more mobility. Fitness permitting I reckon McWilliams is more than capable, however we'd still probably want a more senior player as well.

Mobile strikers (x2): one loanee, one permanent. Ideally Morton, but if not a player of that ilk that runs the channels all game and feed off Oliver. Smith wont be good enough for League One, but adequate cover for Oliver.

Utility men (x2): players that can fill various roles as injury covers. Thinking of someone like David Hunt, or more recently the role Hoskins has done for us. Don't need to be technically brilliant, just hard working and stick to Curles gameplan.

I'm genuinely optimistic about next season and think we'll surprise a few. Say what you want about Curle, but if we do go down you know it will be with a fight rather than the complete capitulation like the previous two relegations.

Will say any idea of Ravel Morrison joining us is complete fantasy. Huge wages, absolutely no inclination or motivation to play for a club our size, and completely at odds with the style of football and personality Curle likes.
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« Reply #78 on: July 04, 2020, 15:33:41 pm »

Probably one of the most interesting close seasons in many a year due to various clubs financial position? Doing business early may be regrettable, as I expect quite a few quality players may hold out for big money and then struggle to find a club? On the other hand if you delay you may miss out altogether, so do you stick or twist? The holy grail of signings is a 20 goal+ a season striker so any deal for Morton has to be a priority, obviously along with replacements for McCormack and Turnbull? A big ask but as others have said KCs recruitment to date has been exceptional, so I am personally very hopeful there is some real quality on the horizon?
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« Reply #79 on: July 04, 2020, 21:59:36 pm »

Rhys Bennett was mentioned earlier in the thread and has been released by Posh
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