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Summer 2020 Transfer Window

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« Reply #660 on: August 05, 2020, 18:13:08 pm »

Completely agree with the thoughts above. Did well for us in him time, but in reality he is a limited player. He owes a lot to Curle also, his career was heading to non league based on his goals output, but he was played in a role that suited him down to the ground. Having him and Akinde up top shows how Gillingham are going to play.

However, 5 league 2 goals is not exactly screaming impossible to replace. Also, surprisingly in the league 2 games he only had one direct assist, which shows it was more his involvement in the build up than direct goal contributions. Someone like an Oli Hawkins perhaps as another target man could be a replacement if we are going for a similar type.

All the best Vadaine, served us well, but retaining Morton is far more important. Goalscorers win you games.
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« Reply #661 on: August 05, 2020, 19:00:51 pm »

Said elsewhere, he had a decent season but won't be good enough for League 1. Perfectly relaxed with this.

Also agree with Shoemaker. If the club actually are surprised, that is beyond naive.
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« Reply #662 on: August 05, 2020, 19:02:19 pm »

Club privately not happy at all, had supposedly received assurances from his representatives...

Like Giles Coke all over again!

So, Ollie Palmer or Oliver Hawkins as his replacement? Grin
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« Reply #663 on: August 05, 2020, 19:22:59 pm »

I think Oliver's departure has caused far more excitement than his arrival!
If we're honest most of us thought he would be a back up option at best. Let's hope Curley can surprise us again.
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« Reply #664 on: August 05, 2020, 19:51:27 pm »

I think Oliver's departure has caused far more excitement than his arrival!
If we're honest most of us thought he would be a back up option at best. Let's hope Curley can surprise us again.
My thoughts in a nutshell.
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« Reply #665 on: August 05, 2020, 20:46:42 pm »

I must admit it made me chuckle  Cheesy
He’s buggered about for a month when the others signed in a few days and it appears the club are stunned by developments.... Grin Grin


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« Reply #666 on: August 05, 2020, 21:06:56 pm »

Forget Smith, move heaven and earth to get Morton, sign a target man to play alongside Morton.
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« Reply #667 on: August 05, 2020, 21:08:50 pm »

Ollie Hawkins would surely be a perfect replacement, same age, better goalscoring record & with League One experience already under his belt. Guess he would be on a fair chunk at Pompey though so we could be priced out, he would offer centre-back cover too however which I guess provides added value. I think Gillingham were linked to him before they announced Oliver.
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« Reply #668 on: August 05, 2020, 22:09:59 pm »

Which fits in with the stories about them being "relaxed" about him signing a new deal. They may have been taken by surprise with this one by the sounds of it...and therefore wouldn't necessarily have a replacement lined up.

Even more surprising is that Gillingham have no money(according to their Forum) and is one of the reasons why they off loaded Marshall. Perhaps they offered Oliver a 2 yr contract? All the same I find it surprising they can better our salary offer given their precarious financial situation. As is so often said on here KC moves in mysterious ways Shocked
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« Reply #669 on: August 05, 2020, 22:48:31 pm »

I don't know how likely they are, but Pearce and Hawkins are definitely the names that seem to be talked about the most on twitter.
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« Reply #670 on: August 05, 2020, 22:52:57 pm »

Even more surprising is that Gillingham have no money(according to their Forum) and is one of the reasons why they off loaded Marshall. Perhaps they offered Oliver a 2 yr contract? All the same I find it surprising they can better our salary offer given their precarious financial situation. As is so often said on here KC moves in mysterious ways Shocked
That’s the thing about this football finance situation Evers. Maybe they can’t and shouldn’t offer a better salary or terms than us, but have done it anyway? This will be going on all over the place at the minute and some will get burned, perhaps Vadaine will be one of them? So what do you do at this point, keep a reign on the finances or chase the rainbow and damn the consequences? Welcome to the crazy world of professional football financial management?
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« Reply #671 on: August 06, 2020, 06:12:29 am »

That’s the thing about this football finance situation Evers. Maybe they can’t and shouldn’t offer a better salary or terms than us, but have done it anyway? This will be going on all over the place at the minute and some will get burned, perhaps Vadaine will be one of them? So what do you do at this point, keep a reign on the finances or chase the rainbow and damn the consequences? Welcome to the crazy world of professional football financial management?

And that's doubly true during the current pandemic - I'd rather we cut our cloth in a sensible fashion until things settle down. Yes, we might lose out on a few players and end up with a weaker team than we'd like, but as long as we stay within a budget we know we can afford, at least we'll live to fight another day. There's a chance next season will be more a war of attrition than a sporting contest and will be decided as much off the pitch as it will be on it.
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« Reply #672 on: August 06, 2020, 06:57:38 am »

Fair play to vadaine
He’s got to do the best for himself as this may be his last decent contract offer.
Gillingham obviously had a bit more financial clout.

Now let’s see who we get in....

I’m hoping they won’t be practicing defence against attack in training tomorrow....


i would assume we offered something similar to the lad from oldham - 1 year with incentives - oliver might have gone for longer for more security - which is understandable for him - easily replaceable though.
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« Reply #673 on: August 06, 2020, 07:27:32 am »

i would assume we offered something similar to the lad from oldham - 1 year with incentives - oliver might have gone for longer for more security - which is understandable for him - easily replaceable though.


That’s why I asked ntfclad if he knew how many years we offered him - if we didn’t offer him 2 years like Hoskins and Harriman then I can see why he rejected us, if we offered him 2 years like Gillingham then it is a bit worrying that we got turned down.
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« Reply #674 on: August 06, 2020, 07:48:39 am »

That’s why I asked ntfclad if he knew how many years we offered him - if we didn’t offer him 2 years like Hoskins and Harriman then I can see why he rejected us, if we offered him 2 years like Gillingham then it is a bit worrying that we got turned down.

not if we saw him as a back up option and offered him such - and his agent sold him very well to that nob at gillingham - who feels like he will be their main man!

not so much a marquee signing - but high on their list - maybe that wasnt the case with us.

maybe we are prepared to spend more on better quality and less on a head on a stick
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« Reply #675 on: August 06, 2020, 08:02:40 am »

not if we saw him as a back up option and offered him such - and his agent sold him very well to that nob at gillingham - who feels like he will be their main man!

not so much a marquee signing - but high on their list - maybe that wasnt the case with us.

maybe we are prepared to spend more on better quality and less on a head on a stick

You’re probably right, but if you were Oliver and you saw teammates who were also out of contract get offered 2 years and you were only offered 1 then I can see why he dithered and eventually rejected us - it doesn’t look like we’ll ever know.
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« Reply #676 on: August 06, 2020, 08:29:12 am »

I also think that people who are throwing the 5 league goals stat about as justification for getting rid of him are missing the point a bit. When we signed him we knew we weren’t getting a prolific striker by any stretch of the imagination - it’s the importance that he ended up having on the team as a whole that we will miss. As others have said though he’s got to be careful as the grass isn’t always greener - he’s gone to play for a manager who is notorious for being unstable to put it mildly and if he is going to be played alongside Akinde then it’s hard to see how it is going to be as effective as when played alongside Morton.
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« Reply #677 on: August 06, 2020, 08:37:09 am »

KC on Radio Northamption this morning....

Confirmed couple of bids in for Goode...but we don't need to sell him (but we obviously will (and should) if we get an offer near 1 million imo)

Absolutely love the bloke but in the current climate a club like ours can't turn down that sort of offer
Good thing is we ain't just accepting the first bid ala Toney under Cardoza

Also, basically said the last two play off games put big V in the shop window & that is why he was on the radar of other clubs...
Said the Gillingham offer was a fantastic one and one that we could get nowhere near and in KC opinion above what KC values him at

Correct decision imo as KC and his staff done all the work to get big V playing the Northampton way, it's also the man management of KC that has to be applauded. I'm pretty sure big V had some off-field issues too as one game last season he didn't play as KC said his head wasn't right. Some clubs would have just binned him off but credit to KC and the staff for sticking by him during those tough times, getting him back on track and making him a better player too.

How anyone can compare what KC is doing to what page did is absolutely clueless.

I'm enjoying seeing what happens next!
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« Reply #678 on: August 06, 2020, 08:42:52 am »

To be fair, Gillingham like us have very few players under contract, so if they were willing to make him a top earner at their club and we didnt see him as a key man, it could be easy for them to blow us out the water despite being skint. All depends who we're saving our big wages for.
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« Reply #679 on: August 06, 2020, 09:04:09 am »

I also think that people who are throwing the 5 league goals stat about as justification for getting rid of him are missing the point a bit. When we signed him we knew we weren’t getting a prolific striker by any stretch of the imagination - it’s the importance that he ended up having on the team as a whole that we will miss. As others have said though he’s got to be careful as the grass isn’t always greener - he’s gone to play for a manager who is notorious for being unstable to put it mildly and if he is going to be played alongside Akinde then it’s hard to see how it is going to be as effective as when played alongside Morton.

He was our League Two version of Olivier Giroud...
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