1971cobbler
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1971, yes Wigan are effectively on 46 points with the 12 point deduction. However, if they finish 12 points above the relegation places the deduction would mean that they remain in the championship. In this case the 12 points will not be deducted and they would finish the season on 56 points plus any gained from their last game. However the 12 point deduction would be held over to next season and they would start in the championship on -12 points.
Thanks for this.
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southofthecounty
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Vanaid ??
Nationwide. Feckers aren't paying me any interest on my savings so they can afford it.
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guest3359
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There has also been an appeal against Wigan's points deduction based on force majeure, although it likely to fail as the club were bought during coronavirus so wasn't an unknown. They cant appeal on it being a huge f***ing corruption and the EFL being f***ing useless in approving it.
There is also a potential points deduction for Sheffield Wednesday. Anywhere from 10 to 40 points apparently for the way the way they sold the stadium.
So even when the season finishes we wont know for sure who is coming down for sure
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Battery Man
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I saw on one of the league 1 facebook groups that at least 12 clubs are threatening to take the Football league to court if they restart the season without supporters being allowed in as a lot of them will be bankrupted by this course of events. It could be that we don't see a new season this year if that is the case.
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CobblerForever
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I saw on one of the league 1 facebook groups that at least 12 clubs are threatening to take the Football league to court if they restart the season without supporters being allowed in as a lot of them will be bankrupted by this course of events. It could be that we don't see a new season this year if that is the case.
The clubs and EFL will be bankrupted by legal fees at this rate. Surely delaying the beginning of the season will mean fewer games possible before the end of the season. Have these ten clubs been selling season tickets on false promises to their supporters ?
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Coolcat
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The clubs and EFL will be bankrupted by legal fees at this rate.
Surely delaying the beginning of the season will mean fewer games possible before the end of the season. Have these ten clubs been selling season tickets on false promises to their supporters ?
Yes, was going to say similar! The ridiculous irony of some clubs throwing around threats of court action (Posh and Tranmere to name two) with the protracted action and fees it would incur, on the basis of decisions (largely beyond the EFL's control) affecting their finances is, well ironic!
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Why?
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We will flirt with the play-off places.
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Coolcat
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We will flirt with the play-off places.
Before the glass of red is metaphorically chucked at us and told to fcuk off!
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guest3086
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Before the glass of red is metaphorically chucked at us and told to fcuk off! Flirt not a full-on assault...
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Why?
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Before the glass of red is metaphorically chucked at us and told to fcuk off! Why? Intrigued..... My stocking-top awaits.....
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Athena
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So the Championship season ends this evening and we will then know what 3 teams will be coming down to meet us next season, OR WILL WE? I suspect a significant amount of arguments and indeed probably legal action will follow very quickly with various clubs claiming they should stay up as others should have points deductions etc, etc. I get a feeling it might all get a bit nasty. What a mess! Add to that the Macclesfield / Stevenage wrangle and it's all becoming a bit of a joke. Perhaps the Posh will put in a writ saying we did not deserve promotion!!
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guest3359
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As it stands we will only know 1 for sure. Wigan face 12 points for administration. Sheff Weds and Derby both for charges on FFP and the sale of the ground to boost the accounts. The deductions for SW and DC could be anything. If Wigan beat Fulham and either Charlton or Luton fail to win they will stay up regardless. Essentially its all a huge mess but I would imagine any point deductions for SW or DC would be next season.
If Wigan win and the results go their way, and they win their appeal then they will stay up and be on -12 next season potentially. Or would the appeal mean they get away with it all???
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Half time Luton with no shots on target beating Blackburn 2-1, both OG's.
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WadeyCobbler
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So, assuming unsuccessful appeals and no more points deductions we have Hull, Wigan and Charlton joining us in League One. A great escape by Barnsley and Lu'on. While Forest choked at the death in the play-off race. A mad night. League One is going to be tough, very tough. Lots of big clubs and lots of exciting games to come and some great grounds to visit (virus pending). For me it's all about survival. Anything else would be a huge bonus. We just need to stop the cycle of promotion followed swiftly by relegation and try and establish ourselves in League One with an eventual push for the Championship.
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Deepcut Cobbler
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Could also be Sheffield Wednesday instead of Charlton...
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
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guest3359
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Could also be Sheffield Wednesday instead of Charlton... Or Derby, or both. Or if Wigan appeal is successful, could be Sheffield Wednesday instead or Barnsley, or Derby, or both instead of Charlton and Barnsley. Hull are f****d
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guest3338
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So no one's got a clue who goes down yet?
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everbrite
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So no one's got a clue who goes down yet?
Not sure if we are simply confusing the issue as current bottom 3 with the potential exception of Wigan will be relegated. As you know Wigan have appealed against their points deduction so await that outcome. If Efl merely sticks to the rules then all three Hull, Charlton and Wigan will be relegated. Hull and Charlton have no excuses due to poor performances. If Wednesday/Derby are punished for Stadium sales; imagine the outcry from Barnsley and others. To me EFL will simply apply the rules and not make exceptions. What do you think SOG?
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2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
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guest3359
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Not sure if we are simply confusing the issue as current bottom 3 with the potential exception of Wigan will be relegated. As you know Wigan have appealed against their points deduction so await that outcome. If Efl merely sticks to the rules then all three Hull, Charlton and Wigan will be relegated. Hull and Charlton have no excuses due to poor performances. If Wednesday/Derby are punished for Stadium sales; imagine the outcry from Barnsley and others. To me EFL will simply apply the rules and not make exceptions. What do you think SOG?
The Derby case has already been heard but the verdict not released and Sheff Wednesday has been going on since November. If they are closed before mid august (when the AGM is) then points will be deducted this season apparently. Barnsley were threatening legal action when it looked like they would be relegated. Now they are safe i guess they'll go quiet, unless Wigan are successful in their appeal
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Deepcut Cobbler
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Not sure if we are simply confusing the issue as current bottom 3 with the potential exception of Wigan will be relegated. As you know Wigan have appealed against their points deduction so await that outcome. If Efl merely sticks to the rules then all three Hull, Charlton and Wigan will be relegated. Hull and Charlton have no excuses due to poor performances. If Wednesday/Derby are punished for Stadium sales; imagine the outcry from Barnsley and others. To me EFL will simply apply the rules and not make exceptions. What do you think SOG?
I think that you don't understand: Sheff Wed and Derby have as much chance of being relegated as Wigan, Charlton, Barnsley and Hull, at the moment, if/until the EFL decide to conclude the ongoing processes prior to the league confirming the league participants for next season. We have a confirmed number of 20 opponents for next season, it's the three from the Championship that have yet to be confirmed.
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
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