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« Reply #660 on: December 21, 2020, 09:59:02 am »

"We weren't at their level"

That is easy to explain, even for a pea brain like me.
When the approaches for the said players were made, Fleetwood were in the  league 1 play off places, we were either a) newly promoted, b) league 2 having not yet won the play offs.
The targets chose the established league1 team.


God forbid, folk would take a new job for more money!
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« Reply #661 on: December 21, 2020, 10:31:11 am »

An interesting debate with people making statements and others asking for evidence. BUT, if i had to chose which statement to put my house on , either
Curle missed out on some signings due to budget constraints        or           Danny Rose is the highest paid striker in League 1

 I know where my money would be  Tongue
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« Reply #662 on: December 21, 2020, 10:47:06 am »

An interesting debate with people making statements and others asking for evidence. BUT, if i had to chose which statement to put my house on , either
Curle missed out on some signings due to budget constraints        or           Danny Rose is the highest paid striker in League 1

 I know where my money would be  Tongue

 Grin Grin Grin
IF Danny Rose IS the highest paid striker in league 1 his agent should be the highest earning agent in the world!!
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« Reply #663 on: December 21, 2020, 11:47:06 am »

Am I missing something?   Has KC suddenly changed his style of play?   Before he joined us did he play neat attacking football?  was he known as a modern day, adaptable coach?  Last season did he get success by playing tippy tappy, build-up football?  Had he had a successful managerial career with promotions and player development success?

NO NO NO NO & NO

KT knew exactly what we were getting, a safe, simple, experienced dinosaur of a manager. That is what we still have now. Everyone knows we would not have been promoted in a normal season. Now looking at KT & DB, have they EVER demonstrated any level of ambition for NTFC? Did they build on their 'lucky' success of their 1st season, did they develop any part of the ground or club over and beyond what any other club has done (social media & community). 

again No NO NO & NO

Now when we find ourselves in a very tough League 1 with a manager out of his depth, given a team that is no where near up to dealing with his style of play, last season we had Oliver and Wharton who have been replaced with Smith & Horsfield (who is if we had been relegated and not promoted, would have struggled), and a board who have no passion and little commitment to the club other than to keep it afloat.

KC has not changed anything, never has, never will. He can't get the players he needs, in a higher league, at a club with no plan or ambition other than to survive

Us fans played a massive, massive part in our previous promotion, and also the Ian Atkins one too, but this time we are not there to provide the drive forward,

 so why do some of you expect us to be in a different situation than we currently are?   
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« Reply #664 on: December 21, 2020, 12:00:35 pm »

I normally read and don't post but I have got a bit tired of the more vocal and active online perceiving themselves as the majority of opinion.

The football is poor, but I do not see an alternative with the current budget and staff whoever is in charge. We lost pretty much a whole team at the end of last season. If we had started this season with the same team I think the difference in level would have showed. Having to put a new team together with much of the quality from last year gone was always going to be a huge challenge.

Having been a Cobblers fan for many years, and being a realist, I would have taken our current League position had I have been offered it at the start of the year. We could have been going in to Christmas already dead and buried. As it stands we have a chance of staying at this level. I would much rather go in to January with Curle knowing the limitations of what he has got, and with an idea of what needs to be added to keep us in this league.  

Hitting the panic button in December when you are not rock bottom could cost a lot more than it gains. It is frustrating when you combine a bad run or results with crap football, but change is not always the answer and the vocal 'majority' would do well to remember things can get a lot worse. If we change managers now we could end up with worse than what we have (it has happened before!), and paying to get a new manager in is going to cost us players on the pitch or increasing the budget, which could hurt us beyond this season.

To all the "Curle out" believers - what did you expect, and do you really think it was realistic?
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« Reply #665 on: December 21, 2020, 12:10:39 pm »

I suspect the majority of the "Curle out believers" expected exactly what we are getting...
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« Reply #666 on: December 21, 2020, 12:12:31 pm »

I normally read and don't post but I have got a bit tired of the more vocal and active online perceiving themselves as the majority of opinion.

The football is poor, but I do not see an alternative with the current budget and staff whoever is in charge. We lost pretty much a whole team at the end of last season. If we had started this season with the same team I think the difference in level would have showed. Having to put a new team together with much of the quality from last year gone was always going to be a huge challenge.

Having been a Cobblers fan for many years, and being a realist, I would have taken our current League position had I have been offered it at the start of the year. We could have been going in to Christmas already dead and buried. As it stands we have a chance of staying at this level. I would much rather go in to January with Curle knowing the limitations of what he has got, and with an idea of what needs to be added to keep us in this league.  

Hitting the panic button in December when you are not rock bottom could cost a lot more than it gains. It is frustrating when you combine a bad run or results with crap football, but change is not always the answer and the vocal 'majority' would do well to remember things can get a lot worse. If we change managers now we could end up with worse than what we have (it has happened before!), and paying to get a new manager in is going to cost us players on the pitch or increasing the budget, which could hurt us beyond this season.

To all the "Curle out" believers - what did you expect, and do you really think it was realistic?
You haven’t watch many games this season have you? Please explain how it could possibly get worse😂
We’ve just been pumped 4-0 3 times this season and have the worst goal difference in the league.
I expect to have a competitive team, lower mid table, that would be enough, this team is the worst in the league.
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« Reply #667 on: December 21, 2020, 12:37:32 pm »

I guess he's going nowhere then.....

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/chairman-thomas-wont-make-kneejerk-decisions-plans-add-league-one-quality-january-3074773
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« Reply #668 on: December 21, 2020, 12:41:19 pm »

You haven’t watch many games this season have you? Please explain how it could possibly get worse😂
We’ve just been pumped 4-0 3 times this season and have the worst goal difference in the league.
I expect to have a competitive team, lower mid table, that would be enough, this team is the worst in the league.


The league table suggests differently.
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« Reply #669 on: December 21, 2020, 12:53:25 pm »

Judging by what KT says in his latest video he's not about to sack the manager.
Therefore all most of us can do now is get behind KC and the players and hope for improvements in January.
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« Reply #670 on: December 21, 2020, 12:56:44 pm »

Does it, wait until we’ve played all the games.
With this squad we will be bottom,
 Anyway  -19 worst in the league now Fact.
Next.
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« Reply #671 on: December 21, 2020, 13:07:13 pm »

Does it, wait until we’ve played all the games.
With this squad we will be bottom,
 Anyway  -19 worst in the league now Fact.
Next.

Bottom with all games played = opinion.
19th worst is a success in my book.
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« Reply #672 on: December 21, 2020, 13:15:16 pm »

Let's wait an see the quality of the January signings promised by KT.
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« Reply #673 on: December 21, 2020, 13:15:53 pm »

Bottom with all games played = opinion.
19th worst is a success in my book.

For some success would have been "doing a Wycombe" and achieving back to back promotions.
For others success would have been a stable mid-table position
For others success would be finishing 20th (which is where we are now btw, not 19th!)

Not everyone reads the same book.....
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« Reply #674 on: December 21, 2020, 13:20:35 pm »

Judging by what KT says in his latest video he's not about to sack the manager.
Therefore all most of us can do now is get behind KC and the players and hope for improvements in January.

Not surprised at all - might be interesting to hear the views from both sides of the argument!
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« Reply #675 on: December 21, 2020, 13:21:56 pm »

Bottom with all games played = opinion.
19th worst is a success in my book.
Ok I’ll make it a bit more clear for you.
We are currently in 20th position ( Shrewsbury have a better goal difference and 2 games in hand, they are in 21st)
We have a goal difference of -19 worst in the league.
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« Reply #676 on: December 21, 2020, 13:23:51 pm »

Not surprised at all - might be interesting to hear the views from both sides of the argument!
Hello Evers old chum, I thought KT spoke well and if he back KC in Jan then we may stay up, KC needs to change his style of play and just play like we did in the play offs.
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« Reply #677 on: December 21, 2020, 13:28:17 pm »

Ok I’ll make it a bit more clear for you.
We are currently in 20th position ( Shrewsbury have a better goal difference and 2 games in hand, they are in 21st)
We have a goal difference of -19 worst in the league.

Don't forget that we could be 21st tomorrow night if Shrews pick up a point, or that we will definitely be 21st, if not 22nd if we don't play on Boxing Day as Wigan and Shrewsbury meet each other.

Don't forget that we have scored 5 league goals in 10 home games
Don't forget that we have the worst goal difference in the league,
Don't forget that we have just lost back to back games by 4 goals for the first time in 54 years.
Don't forget that we have lost 4 league games in a row, no other team in League 1 is in that position currently.

Apart from that we're doing ok......
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« Reply #678 on: December 21, 2020, 13:37:14 pm »

Don't forget that we could be 21st tomorrow night if Shrews pick up a point, or that we will definitely be 21st, if not 22nd if we don't play on Boxing Day as Wigan and Shrewsbury meet each other.

Don't forget that we have scored 5 league goals in 10 home games
Don't forget that we have the worst goal difference in the league,
Don't forget that we have just lost back to back games by 4 goals for the first time in 54 years.
Don't forget that we have lost 4 league games in a row, no other team in League 1 is in that position currently.

Apart from that we're doing ok......
Apparently Mr Boarman thinks this represents success  Grin
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« Reply #679 on: December 21, 2020, 13:44:45 pm »

If all that matters is where we are in the League come May 8th then its all academic.......  Wink
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