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« Reply #960 on: February 11, 2021, 15:55:21 pm »

He's not hanging around...

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/next-bristol-rovers-manager-former-4993346

Next Bristol Rovers manager: Former England defender and Northampton Town boss wants job

Former Bristol Rovers and Bristol City defender Keith Curle is eager to immediately return to management and is interested in the vacancy at the Mem

Bristol-born Keith Curle is interested in the managerial vacancy at Bristol Rovers following Paul Tisdale's exit.

Bristol Live understands Curle, who started his playing career at the Gas, is eager to immediately return to work after his two-and-a-half-year stint at Northampton Town ended on Wednesday.

The Cobblers parted company with Curle within minutes of Tisdale’s sacking at Rovers yesterday, and the 57-year-old is keen to be back in the dugout as soon as possible.

Curle fancies a return to the city of his birth to take charge of the Gas as they vie to arrest a 10-game winless run and avoid relegation from League One.

Curle has amassed a managerial career of more than 500 games, having taken charge of Mansfield Town, Torquay United, Notts County and Carlisle United before taking the job at Sixfields.

The three-cap England international steered the Cobblers to promotion via the League Two play-off final in June with a 4-0 win over Exeter City but was relieved of his duties this week with the club, alongside Rovers, locked in a relegation battle.

Curle started his playing career with Rovers in the early 1980s before joining the likes of Manchester City and Wolverhampton Wanderers. He also had playing stints with Bristol City and Wimbledon before moving into management in 2002.

He also spent time on Neil Warnock’s coaching staff at Queens Park Rangers and Crystal Palace, winning promotion to the Premier League with QPR and reaching the Championship play-offs at Selhurst Park.

He sound good, is he available??  Grin
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« Reply #961 on: February 11, 2021, 16:51:29 pm »

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/wigan-horror-show-was-one-abject-performance-too-many-keith-curle-3131413
A good piece in the Chron from JH...
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« Reply #962 on: February 12, 2021, 08:52:13 am »

One of the myths that people are throwing about is that he saved is from relegation in his first season.

He was appointed on 1st October.

Season ends in May.

If it was February or March he was appointed, I would subscribe to this theory.

Yes we were near the bottom, but not hopelessly out of sight from the team above us.

With this theory then imo he should have made us Champions as we should have won every game from October to May...
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« Reply #963 on: February 12, 2021, 10:35:26 am »

One of the myths that people are throwing about is that he saved is from relegation in his first season.

He was appointed on 1st October.

Season ends in May.

If it was February or March he was appointed, I would subscribe to this theory.

Yes we were near the bottom, but not hopelessly out of sight from the team above us.

With this theory then imo he should have made us Champions as we should have won every game from October to May...
We were in deep trouble when Curle took over, fair play to him he steadied the ship and got us away from the bottom.
Sadly for keef this is where he is best in L2, near the bottom, where his tactic work.
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« Reply #964 on: February 12, 2021, 10:55:03 am »

We were in deep trouble when Curle took over, fair play to him he steadied the ship and got us away from the bottom.
Sadly for keef this is where he is best in L2, near the bottom, where his tactic work.

Agreed, the promotion was probably just as much of a shock to him as it was to us... Grin
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« Reply #965 on: February 12, 2021, 11:05:31 am »

Agreed, the promotion was probably just as much of a shock to him as it was to us... Grin
It’s a shame he couldn’t kick on with some slightly better tactics and football but hey ho.
Mind you there’s always two sides to a story, it would be interesting to know what his thoughts were on KT, budget for this league etc.
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« Reply #966 on: February 12, 2021, 13:08:00 pm »

One of the myths that people are throwing about is that he saved is from relegation in his first season.

He was appointed on 1st October.

Season ends in May.

If it was February or March he was appointed, I would subscribe to this theory.

Yes we were near the bottom, but not hopelessly out of sight from the team above us.

With this theory then imo he should have made us Champions as we should have won every game from October to May...

Wilder didn't save us from relegation then as he was appointed in January
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« Reply #967 on: February 12, 2021, 13:45:30 pm »

Wilder didn't save us from relegation then as he was appointed in January

I think it was a little different to that.

Curle did turn the around the club from having a losing mentality to playoff winners in under two seasons which is commendable - in fact it was a quicker turnaround to a promotion than with Wilder - but they were by no means in serious relegation peril in October when he came in.

When Wilder came in the club was fully up sh1t creek without a paddle, some way adrift of safety and with an absolutely shocking squad leftover by Boothroyd.

Both go down as successful managers in my opinion, although it was sad and extremely frustrating to see KC go so far backwards.

I think this has happened to a lot of managers at the club who have enjoyed some success at one period in their term, and they end up with a record like Curle's where they have lost as many they have won - Stuart Gray, Ian Sampson, Ian Atkins, Wilson etc. all went to the same way for various reasons.

There have been only 7 managers to depart with a net positive (at least +10 more wins than losses) record in our entire history: Chris Wilder (2014-16), Colin Calderwood (2003-06), Graham Carr (1985-90), Bill Dodgin in his first spell (1973-76), Dave Bowen in his first spell (1959-67), Bob Dennison (1949-54) and Jack Tresadern (1925-30).

What is the formula for finding the next one I wonder?
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« Reply #968 on: February 12, 2021, 14:08:39 pm »

I think it was a little different to that.

Curle did turn the around the club from having a losing mentality to playoff winners in under two seasons which is commendable - in fact it was a quicker turnaround to a promotion than with Wilder - but they were by no means in serious relegation peril in October when he came in.

When Wilder came in the club was fully up sh1t creek without a paddle, some way adrift of safety and with an absolutely shocking squad leftover by Boothroyd.

Both go down as successful managers in my opinion, although it was sad and extremely frustrating to see KC go so far backwards.

I think this has happened to a lot of managers at the club who have enjoyed some success at one period in their term, and they end up with a record like Curle's where they have lost as many they have won - Stuart Gray, Ian Sampson, Ian Atkins, Wilson etc. all went to the same way for various reasons.

There have been only 7 managers to depart with a net positive (at least +10 more wins than losses) record in our entire history: Chris Wilder (2014-16), Colin Calderwood (2003-06), Graham Carr (1985-90), Bill Dodgin in his first spell (1973-76), Dave Bowen in his first spell (1959-67), Bob Dennison (1949-54) and Jack Tresadern (1925-30).

What is the formula for finding the next one I wonder?

That's easy. Winning more games than you lose.

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« Reply #969 on: February 12, 2021, 14:27:08 pm »

I think it was a little different to that.

Curle did turn the around the club from having a losing mentality to playoff winners in under two seasons which is commendable - in fact it was a quicker turnaround to a promotion than with Wilder - but they were by no means in serious relegation peril in October when he came in.

When Wilder came in the club was fully up sh1t creek without a paddle, some way adrift of safety and with an absolutely shocking squad leftover by Boothroyd.

Both go down as successful managers in my opinion, although it was sad and extremely frustrating to see KC go so far backwards.

I think this has happened to a lot of managers at the club who have enjoyed some success at one period in their term, and they end up with a record like Curle's where they have lost as many they have won - Stuart Gray, Ian Sampson, Ian Atkins, Wilson etc. all went to the same way for various reasons.

There have been only 7 managers to depart with a net positive (at least +10 more wins than losses) record in our entire history: Chris Wilder (2014-16), Colin Calderwood (2003-06), Graham Carr (1985-90), Bill Dodgin in his first spell (1973-76), Dave Bowen in his first spell (1959-67), Bob Dennison (1949-54) and Jack Tresadern (1925-30).

What is the formula for finding the next one I wonder?
Thanks for that post O'Coole. I would presume that these statistics would be relevant to most clubs who have spent the majority of their time in the lower leagues. Good research Sir.
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« Reply #970 on: February 12, 2021, 14:47:16 pm »

Thanks for that post O'Coole. I would presume that these statistics would be relevant to most clubs who have spent the majority of their time in the lower leagues. Good research Sir.

Am surprised too as there has been some decent research carried out by O'Cool. Even mentions Dennison and from 1925  Jack Tresadern!! Perhaps he might have been tempted to include Herbert Chapman possibly our most famous 'name' manager.....going back to 1912!
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