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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2020, 21:38:54 pm »

I think KC should be given a bit longer to prove himself in League1, however I also wish he would try to vary his tactics.
Last seasons back three were better than the level they were playing at, this season only Sheehan looks up to standard. So I would give a back 4 a few games and try one or two different combinations in front of that.
In midfield, well, I'd just like to see a midfield, especially one with players who passed the ball to each other, unlike today.
 There is nothing wrong with getting the ball forward quickly but last season we were better when we took a few extra passes before delivering the ball into the box (MacCormack's influence). If crosses or through balls go in from good areas with a bit of quality then chances are created, this is where we are lacking at the moment. Hard to judge our forwards as they get no service.
The other factor missing at the moment appears to be the unity that KC built into last season's squad, perhaps this will come.
While I agree with others that one year rolling contracts are sensible the downside of that is when you do get a Chris Wilder he becomes a cheap option for clubs like Sheffield United.
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2020, 21:47:15 pm »

So the strategy continues to be if there’s a problem throw money at it until it’s not a problem? Hands up who remembers our financial splurge following the influx of Chinese investment? Hands up again if you can recall the managerial revolving doors post Wilder? How did that go? Yet if I understand it correctly the plan is more of the same whilst we are being financially hammered? FFS get a grip, pull the cotton wool out from between your ears and think about this logically will you? No offence.

I suppose KT has the old catch 22 scenario,1. Can the club afford to change the manager?
                                                               2. Can the club afford NOT to change the manager?

I would imagine KT is still firmly settled on option 1 at the moment.
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2020, 22:04:19 pm »

Forgetting about the intricacies of this argument let’s keep it simple. Following a manager who has achieved promotion, statistically how many managers do we have to go through before success has been repeated? How often in our history have we recruited successive managers who have achieved back to back success or even managed to maintain the position of any success achieved by the previous manager? As frustrating as this may be for some, history dictates getting rid of Curle will almost certainly result in us going backwards on the pitch and suffering significant financial loss off it. I accept this may be frustrating, even infuriating and definitely what many don’t want to hear but nonetheless a fact so don’t shoot the messenger, please.
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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2020, 22:11:50 pm »

Do us a favour and keep out of the thread then Evers  Kiss
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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2020, 22:14:11 pm »

Keep at it ! This thread is the rogues gallery of anti club 'fans'. It's amazing how some manipulate the truth to suit their ends. Surprised that the Mods have not cautioned one or two of them.
Can’t object to supporters having an opinion though Evers? At least that’s my view.
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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2020, 22:19:27 pm »

Can’t object to supporters having an opinion though Evers? At least that’s my view.

Agreed
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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2020, 23:55:46 pm »

It is impossible to change the way a manager sets up his team. They all become stubborn and continue with their system even when it is obviously failing. They aren't really that bothered if they are sacked. They get a pay-off and continue to swill around the very limited soup of management swill. This geezer we have been fobbed off with doesn't float at the top of the swill, he sits hovering below the surface like a turd in a bog. He needs to be swilled out with a vigorous flush of ruthless intensity otherwise he will remain curled around the u-bend.

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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2020, 00:15:41 am »

The bubble has well and truly burst on this three back system.

To be fair, it worked brilliantly in the playoff campaign, which was the system to its full potential whilst we also had a huge fitness advantage on the teams we played against and basically overwhelmed our opponents.

This season on the other hand we look lethargic and don’t create anything. Whilst we all wanted to keep Morton I can’t see that he’d have made any significant difference since he’d have had f*** all in the way of service since we lump it forwards to Smith who then either heads the ball to nowhere or instead fails to even jump.

Honestly we looked out best going forwards in the first few games when we had to use Warbs and Korboa due to lack of options and those two actually got the ball on the floor and took people on.

I personally think a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 would be the way to go but again sadly I think Curle seems set in his ways.

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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2020, 03:51:34 am »

I have been a supporter of Curle but like managers before him when things go wrong he is now showing inflexibility and refuses to change a failing system.

Calderwood is likely to be the next manager.
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2020, 05:12:58 am »

Fans tolerated KC's 'nullify instead of imposing' attitude to games when results were achieved BUT poor results and dire football is unacceptable!
KC will not change so he has to be changed. KT has a poor record in selecting managers so such a change is high risk but neccessary.
Yes our defensive players are making mistakes BUT my emphasis is our total lack of creating ability to score goals. Attack is the best form of defence.

Only KT can sort the current dire situation..................if finance is influencing a decision then try Brady with Sammo NOT Calderwood!
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« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2020, 06:37:47 am »

If KT pulls the trigger I agree that based on KTs previous track record Calderwood is
 his likely choice , the only thing decent to come out of yesterdays game was the post match interview of Sheehan, another possible managerial option?
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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2020, 07:24:22 am »

Warburton (remember him?) is still our top home goal scorer this season.

Smith and Seal have not surprisingly failed to hit the target home or away.

Conference level recruitment in League 1.
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« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2020, 07:25:56 am »

I think KC should be given a bit longer to prove himself in League1, however I also wish he would try to vary his tactics.
Last seasons back three were better than the level they were playing at, this season only Sheehan looks up to standard. So I would give a back 4 a few games and try one or two different combinations in front of that.
In midfield, well, I'd just like to see a midfield, especially one with players who passed the ball to each other, unlike today.
 There is nothing wrong with getting the ball forward quickly but last season we were better when we took a few extra passes before delivering the ball into the box (MacCormack's influence). If crosses or through balls go in from good areas with a bit of quality then chances are created, this is where we are lacking at the moment. Hard to judge our forwards as they get no service.
The other factor missing at the moment appears to be the unity that KC built into last season's squad, perhaps this will come.
While I agree with others that one year rolling contracts are sensible the downside of that is when you do get a Chris Wilder he becomes a cheap option for clubs like Sheffield United.


This is pretty much where I am, but Curle needs to start varying his tactics and quickly. He needs to show a willingness to change and the ability to swallow his pride, admit it's not working and try something new.

To paraphrase someone else (I can't for the life of me think who) "if you can't change managers, change managers".
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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2020, 07:48:06 am »

So is this a guy with a league two budget trying to operate in league one?

Or is this a guy with a league one budget failing in league one?

If it’s the former, he stays. If it’s the latter he goes. KT will know the answer. And will act accordingly.....

He has been given a league 1 budget but opted to keep some in reserve, prioritising good housekeeping.

He has focused recruitment around the right characters but appears to have gotten that massively wrong.

Has signed league two standard players at best.

He has adopted conference north tactics at best.

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« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2020, 08:10:44 am »

There are two things I would do with immediate effect .
Change to a back 4 so that Sheehan plays with only one of the current donkeys we have available at centre half . It also allows for another defensive midfielder to protect them .
Secondly , scrap zonal marking . Every single game we look like conceding from a corner .
There is a third thing - don’t ever pick Smith . He is an excuse for a footballer and isn’t conference level .
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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2020, 09:36:07 am »

There are two things I would do with immediate effect .
Change to a back 4 so that Sheehan plays with only one of the current donkeys we have available at centre half . It also allows for another defensive midfielder to protect them .
Secondly , scrap zonal marking . Every single game we look like conceding from a corner .
There is a third thing - don’t ever pick Smith . He is an excuse for a footballer and isn’t conference level .
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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2020, 11:41:35 am »

On average when a manager is sacked there is instant improvement to the next six results then things level off. So the best thing is to sack the manager every 7 or 8 games.
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« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2020, 11:54:17 am »

We sacked Page and replaced him with Edinburgh, how did that work out?
We sacked Edinburgh and replaced him with JFH, how did that work out?
We sacked JFH and replaced him with Austin, how did that work out?
We sacked Austin and replaced him with KC, now a lot of you want him out so if you got your wish why do you think the outcome would be any different?. It would just be a matter of time before you wanted the next imcumbant out.
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« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2020, 12:12:42 pm »

Not sure I like the thread title.
With all the crap on offer recently, shouldn't there be a 'one' somewhere in it?
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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2020, 12:13:38 pm »

Similar comments so often.
Where would everyone like the Cobblers to be at the end of the season?  I would be happy to see them survive and regroup for another season in Div 1.  If that happens then there has been success.  It is rare for teams to get promoted every year.
This division is hard and there are some shrewd players, who know the game.
You could argue that some of them should be recruited to play for the Cobblers.  With this virus knocking around, how many of you are actively planning to move around the country after a job?
Players are people and I'm sure many are looking as how the virus goes before committing to moving sticks.
If the Cobblers really are that bad, then watch Brackley for £2 next weekend.  I saw their FA Cup game and it was enjoyable.  The picture cut out a few times, the floodlights failed, but there was entertainment.  You know the standard to expect, but for £2 it is better than £10 and feeling miserable.
I have only seen 2 victories so far and players that do not seem to have any discipline regarding their position on the pitch.  If I were a forward, I would take a book to read as there is not much else to do.
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