CURLE OUT.

[Manwork04]

Er, not long.

I rest my case m’lord, no more questions.  

[BackOfTheNet]

I understand all what you are saying, but, if KT & Co were looking to keep expenditure down, why on earth did they give Curle a 2 year contract ? That's surely not the wisest thing to commit too in the middle of a pandemic ?
   

It's a difficult balance to strike though. Curle got us promoted last year, delivered a brilliant and profitable cup run and developed Goode to the point there were multiple clubs circling around with their wallets out. Curle had a brilliant season for us and everyone grudgingly admitted that.

Curle says he wants a 2 year deal and will walk if he doesn't get it (Speaking hypothetically; I've no idea if that is what happened but I suspect it's not unlikely and after the much lauded play off success wouldn't have been lacking in suitors).

If you're KT, do you let him walk or give him what he wants? If he goes the fans would be pissed off and calling you a cheapskate (a la the Vadaine Oliver situation) and if the next appointment stinks it would be "should have given Curle what he wanted."

Instead you go for the devil you know, and when it all goes wrong everyone says "why give him such a long contract?"

Who'd be a football chairman?!?

[Clarity]

I don’t wish to be argumentative for the sake of it but this isn’t necessarily true .
It would depend on the severance agreement .
It’s very likely Curle would get a job straight away if he left us and so he probably would reject an arrangement such as that . His back room staff maybe less so .
I think we could afford to sack Curle but i am not sure who we could afford to replace him . The Cowley brothers would be expensive . I don’t see why people think Calderwood is a shoe in . He hasnt done anything for years . Living in Boughton only counts for so much !
Having said that , if Curle doesn’t change his Plan A in the next few weeks , he has to go .

He was manager at Cambridge United last season until they sacked him

[guest2995]

He was manager at Cambridge United last season until they sacked him

I know
Exactly my point !

[Shoemaker]

Keith won’t be going anywhere. £££££ Housekeeping

[Clarity]

I know
Exactly my point !

No you didn’t

[Manwork04]

Keith won’t be going anywhere. £££££ Housekeeping

It will be great housekeeping when we get relegated from our 4 bed detached and put into a caravan.

[guest1269]

............ from our 4 bed detached and put into a caravan.

....must be the de development plan

[Shoemaker]

It will be great housekeeping when we get relegated from our 4 bed detached and put into a caravan.

Housekeeping is paramount and it appears far more important than trying to stay in league one.

[EB Claret]

Housekeeping is paramount and it appears far more important than trying to stay in league one.

Well it's all about balance, as a 'Shoemaker' which is most important:-

   The Shoes ? (ie The Football Club) or:-
   The box you pack them in ? (League 1 or 2)

[guest2995]

No you didn’t

I would go as far to say 100% of people on here know that Calderwood managed Cambridge last season .
I repeat my point - Calderwood has done little of significance as a manager ( not as a coach ) for a number of years . Why anyone thinks he his an obvious choice here is beyond me.

[Clarity]

I would go as far to say 100% of people on here know that Calderwood managed Cambridge last season .
I repeat my point - Calderwood has done little of significance as a manager ( not as a coach ) for a number of years . Why anyone thinks he his an obvious choice here is beyond me.

Agreed

[Carton Lid]

Curle says he wants a 2 year deal and will walk if he doesn't get it (Speaking hypothetically; I've no idea if that is what happened but I suspect it's not unlikely and after the much lauded play off success wouldn't have been lacking in suitors).
If you're KT, do you let him walk or give him what he wants? If he goes the fans would be pissed off and calling you a cheapskate (a la the Vadaine Oliver situation) and if the next appointment stinks it would be "should have given Curle what he wanted."
Instead you go for the devil you know, and when it all goes wrong everyone says "why give him such a long contract?"

I know what you're saying, but, if he insists on a 2 year deal, put performance clauses in it, who knows maybe there are clauses? If he had just threatened "to walk" if he didn't get a 2 year deal, my answer would have been "bye". Lets face it, he was an out of work League 2 manager, in his late 50's without a promotion to his name when he came to us. If he had left who would have employed him ? only a struggling League 2 team where he would only get the same as we were paying him if he was lucky, he's not Jurgen Klopp, there would be a very limited amount of jobs open to him, so if he could do better, fair play off you go.
      I really hope that KT DID put some clauses in the contract, if he didn't I'd want to know why if I was David Bower.

[GrangeParkCobbler]

A few clubs (not ours) carried a statement on Friday following the meeting between EFL and EPL regarding the proposed short term bail out package, and it seems that after rejecting similar proposals in October they are now accepting the same in November.....they were worded the same way, for example.....

https://www.crewealex.net/news/2020/november/efl-statement-rescue-package/

There are other articles out  there such as.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54895818

Maybe the Covid black hole is about to be filled to some extent, and then the financial arguments about not sacking KC will be less relevant.

On that subject, sacking Curle that is, its noticeable in this thread that not very many at all are making a case for him to stay based on their perceived ability of him to turn things around....

Also noticeable that the official site is headlining the efforts and performance of Jon Brady's youth team over the weekend. Whenever I've read the reports on the performances of our youngsters its almost like they are talking about a different club altogether..... "players putting in a tremendous performance" and "played on the front foot" are not sentences i've read about the senior team recently.

[andy scouse]

My comment to suggest Calderwood might be a  possible replacement for Curle is not to say I think he will do a particularly better job than Curle its just that with KTs track record apart from last season his choice of replacement managers has been underwhelming.

[Zen Master]

It’s not only that we’re losing games it’s the way we’re losing games that bothers me. The lack of passing ability or retaining any semblance of possession and the lack of goal threat. If we were losing games but scoring some goals I’d have more hope that we can shore up the defence and stand a chance.

 We seem to either launch it forward with little chance of winning the second ball or it’s so ponderous it’s easier to defend against.

Personally I’d go back to a simple 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1. Square pegs in square holes as much as possible with man marking at set pieces.

Would I sack him. Probably not for all the reasons Melly has given about financial concerns but it gets harder the more games go by if results don’t improve. They say it’s a results business but not if you hav3 t got a club left because you’ve blown too much on severance packages.
I just think he needs to consider a different way.

[Tabasco Kid]

I would go as far to say 100% of people on here know that Calderwood managed Cambridge last season .
I repeat my point - Calderwood has done little of significance as a manager ( not as a coach ) for a number of years . Why anyone thinks he his an obvious choice here is beyond me.

Absolutely. I cannot understand why people get excited about the return of former personel.

[guest3063]

Can someone please explain the reasoning behind training on our pitch when we have a decent set up at Moulton?

The pitch is in a complete state and I dread to think what it will be like in January/February time. I think it hinders us as much as other teams and is becoming an embarrassment, all opposition managers comment on our 'difficult pitch'. There was a time when our pitch was one of the best in the lower leagues now it's the worst.

[Manwork04]

Can someone please explain the reasoning behind training on our pitch when we have a decent set up at Moulton?

The pitch is in a complete state and I dread to think what it will be like in January/February time. I think it hinders us as much as other teams and is becoming an embarrassment, all opposition managers comment on our 'difficult pitch'. There was a time when our pitch was one of the best in the lower leagues now it's the worst.

I was thinking just the same when Toggle Tim was wittering on about it on the commentary, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was one of Curles “Tactics” to stop teams passing around us?

[guest3063]

I was thinking just the same when Toggle Tim was wittering on about it on the commentary, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was one of Curles “Tactics” to stop teams passing around us?

Well it ain't working if that's true. We hardly score at home but still concede.

Don't we play better football away from home on better pitches like Shrewsbury, Wigan and Plymouth?