Back in the grounds......

[guest3086]

Quite frankly most of that is rubbish and cynical to boot. You try your best to present assumptions as fact . Your comments are fully in line with your political agenda which you never shirk from presenting on a Football Forum . Most of the decisions taken by the Gov are mostly based on Medical Advice/Common Sense and to say the decisions are now politically based admirably suits your agenda. Give the Labour party a break under Starmer.

Your cigar just fell in the bath and burnt your balls. I am not presenting anything as fact. You have probably posted more on here than anyone else in the history of a forum and yet you still fail to understand that every single post is opinion. Nobody is right other than in the mind of those who agree with them! Explain to me then why 4000 people were not allowed in stadiums for the last 8 odd months and from December will be. No idea what the Starmer comment means.

[tcobb]

Im happy to go if any season tickets spare   I know its no guarantee, but the chances of re-infection are very small, particularly if you had quite a bad case. I had it last month so will  willingly help out season ticket holders  if they feel unsafe  

[Dr Feelgood]

Im happy to go if any season tickets spare   I know its no guarantee, but the chances of re-infection are very small, particularly if you had quite a bad case. I had it last month so will  willingly help out season ticket holders  if they feel unsafe  

you can get reinfected after 90 days.
I got tested positive last week but only lost my smell and taste. A mate of mine here who is younger had it very bad, breathing problems and a raging fever.
I just cant see taking a risk. Here in Texas its pretty relaxed which is why its the highest infected rate in the US

[tcobb]

90 days will do me Doc, should be up for a vaccine by then. I had a fairly bad case, some people have had worse some not so bad, its an awful thing to have and not something i would be willing to repeat soon.

[claretparrot]

you can get reinfected after 90 days.

Sorry, this is nothing more than conjecture. What's your source?

Cases of reinfection are still absolutely tiny in % terms, and many of those are in people with compromised immune systems. Until we get through winter there won't be a clear picture on the likelihood of reinfection and/or how long immunity lasts. Even then it will vary wildly between individuals based on their health and, as tcobb says, the nature/severity of their first infection.

[Dr Feelgood]

Sorry, this is nothing more than conjecture. What's your source?

Cases of reinfection are still absolutely tiny in % terms, and many of those are in people with compromised immune systems. Until we get through winter there won't be a clear picture on the likelihood of reinfection and/or how long immunity lasts. Even then it will vary wildly between individuals based on their health and, as tcobb says, the nature/severity of their first infection.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html#:~:text=Based%20on%20what%20we%20know,after%20onset%20of%20infection.

[Tabasco Kid]

It was reported that it may have been here, way before the Chinese admitted that there was a problem. Given that, the "flu" that I contracted, along with an Indian chippy, managed to bring down two sites. But we didnt know any different. Nobody had heard of covid at the time. This was just after xmas. And as we were on a time limit we had to carry on working. It was just a heavy cold after all....
Now that we know more, things are different. I cant see how a ballot will work. That will cause so many problems at this level.
With regard to the toilet situation, at Charing Cross station, they just sealed off every other urinal. And limited the amount of people in. Simple.

[claretparrot]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html#:~:text=Based%20on%20what%20we%20know,after%20onset%20of%20infection.

I stand corrected, Doc. In as much as it wasn't pure conjecture on your part. Apologies.
That said it is still a giant leap and that article doesn't point to any actual evidence that reinfection after 90 days is possible or likely.

[west stand oap]

Next tuesday we are at home to Fleetwood, I imagine a lot of clubs will want to defer their games to wednesday to get fans in.

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Next tuesday we are at home to Fleetwood, I imagine a lot of clubs will want to defer their games to wednesday to get fans in.

Depends what Tier they will be in...

[The 12th Marquis of Sixfields]

at Charing Cross station, they just sealed off every other urinal. And limited the amount of people in. Simple.

Not so simple with the troughs at Sixfields

[Tabasco Kid]

Not so simple with the troughs at Sixfields

Yes it is. You stick a bin bag every so far, and cover it with black and yellow barrier tape. Thats what they did at Charing Cross.
And then somebody changes it at the end of the day. Not a job that I would fancy though...

[guest3086]

Is somebody taking the pi*s?

[Tabasco Kid]

Is somebody taking the pi*s?

Far from it. Just saying what I have seen.

[everbrite]

Your cigar just fell in the bath and burnt your balls. I am not presenting anything as fact. You have probably posted more on here than anyone else in the history of a forum and yet you still fail to understand that every single post is opinion. Nobody is right other than in the mind of those who agree with them! Explain to me then why 4000 people were not allowed in stadiums for the last 8 odd months and from December will be. No idea what the Starmer comment means.

Faii to understand  Because I don't agree with your ridiculous opinion you get in a real huff! One thing why this second wave has caught on is because some people have willfully ignored Covid 19 Rules; so people have to die. Consider July and August with illegal parties, excessive drinking in pubs and protest marches.

[everbrite]

Is somebody taking the pi*s?

 

[CobblerForever]

The time wasting is going to exasperate even more if crowds aren't able to express their feelings. I think I'm better off staying away.

[Jim Hall Fixit]

So both you and Shoey have unhatched a little nugget that suggests that you should pi$$ of the very essence of survival in the close season, namely season ticket holders, to make a fast buck...  

The reason season ticket holders said they were happy to forgo the money they have put into the club, was BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GO TO GAMES. It wasn't because they were ambivalent or indifferent. Or that they actually don't like football, or that they just enjoy the process of handing over to an entity that they have no affinity or association with. They were saying, we are happy to support the club through these challenging times, by allowing the club to keep running, by using the money that some of use have laid out. The fact that you and him are mad enough to think that the club should not address that loyalty as soon as they can, is beyond ridiculous.

I have paid for every home game that we have not attended due to the pandemic, with one or two exceptions. What makes any fool believe that the natural assumption should be from me, that I should join a queue behind anyone who hasn't paid a penny to support the club. 

Spot on. Shoemaker and SOG seem to think that loyalty is a one way street. I buy a ST and don’t ask for my money back when COVID hits. In return , I expect the club to let me back in as soon as possible. To let folks who have shown much less loyalty in before me would be unthinkably dis-loyal on their part. It ain’t gunna happen.

It would be like you working your arse off for a company through difficult times for years and then, when they are short of a bob or two, they make you redundant and get some cheaper (less loyal) labour in?!

The only reward for loyalty should be its return. Without this we have nothing.
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[Melbourne Cobbler]

The general consensus here is that the UK lockdown is a halfway house set of decisions that probably won’t work? I’m not sure personally. What I do know is that the lockdown here was reportedly one of the strictest imposed globally so far and it took a couple of months to really get on top of it? That being said the figures in the Uk are not multiplying as quickly as you’d think given the difference in approach so I really don’t know what to make of it?

[GrangeParkCobbler]

I stand corrected, Doc. In as much as it wasn't pure conjecture on your part. Apologies.
That said it is still a giant leap and that article doesn't point to any actual evidence that reinfection after 90 days is possible or likely.

The fact they are still talking about re-infections in the tens when the latest figures are there have been almost 60 million confirmed cases worldwide suggests reinfection is still extremely rare, even after 9 months of this virus being in circulation (or 15 months if you believe the Italians)