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Marshall and Holmes may be technically better players than Hoskins but Sam will continually be selected in preference as a wide player because of his energy and workrate. Several times yesterday he got back to make important defensive contributions which it is unlikely either of the other 2 would have made. If we have space in the 22 for Holmes I would extend his contract, but only to the end of the season, but he needs to show more than he has so far. If he had been selected yesterday to play behind the front 2 then either Watson or Sowerby would have been left out. On what Holmes has produced so far I think KC selected the right team.
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Give him a free role behind the front 2, we desperately lack quality in midfield.
Completely disagree, we have looked a million miles better since putting in an extra player in midfield and taking out an attacking player.
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Completely disagree, we have looked a million miles better since putting in an extra player in midfield and taking out an attacking player.
We’ve looked a lot better because we’ve actually got some defenders in Sheehan and Lloyd Jones, but most of all McWilliams breaking up the opposition attacks and passing it simple, you do know we played two up front yesterday?
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you do know we played two up front yesterday?
Yes, but prior to having McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson in midfield we would play 2 central midfielders with 3 attacking players, either a target man with 2 wide attackers or 2 strikers with someone in behind. I prefer the 3 more defensive minded midfielders we are playing now and wouldn’t sacrifice one of then for a Holmes or Hoskins type player.
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Yes, but prior to having McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson in midfield we would play 2 central midfielders with 3 attacking players, either a target man with 2 wide attackers or 2 strikers with someone in behind. I prefer the 3 more defensive minded midfielders we are playing now and wouldn’t sacrifice one of then for a Holmes or Hoskins type player.
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The club finally inform everyone Ratic has gone back , as i informed everyone on here 2 weeks ago !
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Curles post match interview yesterday Said they had “4 or 5 targets” for January If they get “2,3 of those then it’s a good window”
Answers on a postcard who that is! Although he also continued to mention the 22 man squad restriction So with Racic going today, that leaves 1 space Would think Martin, Lines and apparently Holmes will be allowed to go for space
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Yes, but prior to having McWilliams, Sowerby & Watson in midfield we would play 2 central midfielders with 3 attacking players, either a target man with 2 wide attackers or 2 strikers with someone in behind. I prefer the 3 more defensive minded midfielders we are playing now and wouldn’t sacrifice one of then for a Holmes or Hoskins type player.
I agree with what you are saying for the the “big” teams in this league but against the clubs in and around us we need more attacking threat also if we are chasing the game we have no one who can add that extra goal threat.
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GrangeParkCobbler
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22 21 man squad now then, although players under the age of 21 do not count towards this.
Number drops to 20 from next season.....
So as it stands for this season we have:
Adams 34 Arnold 31 Ashley-Seal 22 Bolger 28 Harriman 28 Holmes 33 now out of contract Horsfall 24 Hoskins 27 Korboa 24 Lines 35 Marshall 33 Martin 32 McWilliams 22 Mills 31 Missilou 28 Mitchell 26 Rose 27 Sheehan 34 Smith 25 Sowerby 25 Watson 27 Jones 25
Racic gone but that didn't make any difference....
Holmes contract expired yesterday.....
And now there are 21
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Racic was/is 21 so he would have been in the original squad of 22?
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Racic was/is 21 so he would have been in the original squad of 22?
I think we established a few pages back that 21 year olds counted as U21's....otherwise we had a squad that was too big and we would not have been able to register someone (Holmes/Sheehan/Jones)
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Korboa or Ricky Holmes?
It’s an easy decision and a cheap pay off
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Korboa or Ricky Holmes?
It’s an easy decision and a cheap pay off
Couldn’t agree more, get rid of him and Martin.
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How many total minutes has Holmes played? From what I have seen Holmes has flattered to deceive. Cannot remember him doing any of his great drives upfield! I suspect that we won’t see the Holmes of old?
18 minutes v Oxford City in the FA Cup 20 minutes v Accrington in the League 60 minutes v Stevenage in the League Trophy ** 66 minutes v Burton in the League ** 68 minutes v Rochdale in the League ** 63 minutes v Doncaster in the League ** 62 minutes v Crewe in the League ** 90 minutes v Oxford United in the League ** 6 minutes v Lincoln in the League 1 minute v Gillingham in the League 454 minutes total playing time. ** Games started As I've put on another post, the role that Holmes had in Wilders team was never going to be replicated in Curles team. Curle does not give players free roles, does not use attacking wingers, he uses defensive wing backs.....you can't compare one with the other, neither can anyone expect Ricky Holmes to perform now like he did then, tactics, different players, formation, style of play, serious injuries, its like chalk and cheese.
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18 minutes v Oxford City in the FA Cup 20 minutes v Accrington in the League 60 minutes v Stevenage in the League Trophy ** 66 minutes v Burton in the League ** 68 minutes v Rochdale in the League ** 63 minutes v Doncaster in the League ** 62 minutes v Crewe in the League ** 90 minutes v Oxford United in the League ** 6 minutes v Lincoln in the League 1 minute v Gillingham in the League
454 minutes total playing time.
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As I've put on another post, the role that Holmes had in Wilders team was never going to be replicated in Curles team. Curle does not give players free roles, does not use attacking wingers, he uses defensive wing backs.....you can't compare one with the other, neither can anyone expect Ricky Holmes to perform now like he did then, tactics, different players, formation, style of play, serious injuries, its like chalk and cheese.
Ricky must be very frustrated. I'm sure he'll think, now he's got himself fit, that he's capable of much more but hasnt been given the opportunity.
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He said "at the moment" and gave his reasons. It's not the clubs decision, it's his from a footballing perspective.
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I know this might be unpopular, but as well as trying to move on Martin and Lines, I think we should be looking to the future and therefore moving on Adams and Marshall. We need younger more athletic and stronger players in order to survive and possibly prosper in this league. Adams in particular has delivered little this year and struggles in the wing back role he has to fill. He lacks the pace and strength now and whilst skillful at League 2 level, he doesn't cut it at league 1 level. Younger, stronger players with more pace would make such a difference, as we have seen with the introduction of McWilliams in central midfield. Moving these players on would also make a significant impact on the wage bill and allow KC more freedom in the transfer window.
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He is a bit yellow/red card prone and maybe a bit injury prone. Quite appreciate him though as he adds a lot to the midfield when fit!
1 red card in 73 appearances says he not red card prone
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Martin, I agree with your views on Adams and Marshall. Some think they are our most skillfull players and should be in every starting 11. However, Adams has so far not been able to make the step up in class (not the only one) and does not have the energy of Hoskins to get up and down the pitch for a wing back, also he never completes 90 minutes these days. I have said before that if Marshall had not taken up the option of the extra year on his contract I doubt that the club would have despite his performance at Wembley. He has cost us at least 2 goals with his defending and I think if you are going to play him you need a full back behind him in a flat back 4. If we manage to stay up I doubt either will be offered a new contract at the end of the season if they are still here.
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