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« Reply #480 on: January 15, 2021, 09:27:58 am »

to be fair, Smith will probably be a 25+ goals man in Scotland. Andy Kirk, Billy McKay, The Doc etc... even Scott Vernon did OK.
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« Reply #481 on: January 15, 2021, 09:31:11 am »

I've watched every minute of Smith this season and it's safe to say I'm absolutely amazed.

I'm surprised KC hasn't already driven him to one of these interested clubs to push a deal through!

I think it is probably right for both him and the club to move him on but it wouldnít completely amaze me if he is the next striker in the line that didnít impress here but comes good (Morison, Parkin, Howard, Moult etc.)
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« Reply #482 on: January 15, 2021, 09:38:55 am »

I've said this before, but I seem to be in the minority in rating Smith as a footballer. He's actually very decent with his feet, but his physique means he just gets the ball lumped up to him and he's actually not that good with his head (in open play I mean, his height still makes him a threat at set pieces).

This is where we miss Oliver - he was never about scoring goals, he was all about winning aerial balls with his head or his chest and controlling it well enough to bring others into play.

Smith is expected to do that role now and he's not very good at it. That doesn't make him a bad player, it just doesn't suit his style of play.

In a footballing side where he gets the ball into his feet I think he could do very well.
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« Reply #483 on: January 15, 2021, 09:39:00 am »

I think it is probably right for both him and the club to move him on but it wouldnít completely amaze me if he is the next striker in the line that didnít impress here but comes good (Morison, Parkin, Howard, Moult etc.)
The problems with Smith are, heís lazy and heís got some serious confidence problems coupled with the fact he is too slow to catch a cold itís good business if we can get rid.
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« Reply #484 on: January 15, 2021, 09:42:39 am »

I've said this before, but I seem to be in the minority in rating Smith as a footballer. He's actually very decent with his feet, but his physique means he just gets the ball lumped up to him and he's actually not that good with his head (in open play I mean, his height still makes him a threat at set pieces).

I said the exact same to my West Ham supporting friend yesterday, He is a poor mans Peter Crouch. He is a lot better with his feet than people give him credit for and his height makes him a threat for set pieces but he does not play like a target man. He would probably get on better if he was about 3 inches shorter and managers let him play his game.
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« Reply #485 on: January 15, 2021, 10:06:29 am »

Smith is not a terrible player apart from his work rate as mentioned

You watch Oliver last season, even headers he didnt win he was straight down and after the next ball
Smith has an awful tendency to throw his arms about, look away, throw a strop, stay on the floor, moan etc etc

It infuriates me because its mentality and surely linked to confidence but it doesnt help. He loses a header and is then out the game
Oliver and Morton ran for anything and everything last year and had a nasty streak in a challenge as well

Smith would be too easy to play against for me, win a few early headers and get his head down and you have him

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« Reply #486 on: January 15, 2021, 11:11:59 am »

Smith is not a terrible player apart from his work rate as mentioned

You watch Oliver last season, even headers he didnt win he was straight down and after the next ball
Smith has an awful tendency to throw his arms about, look away, throw a strop, stay on the floor, moan etc etc

It infuriates me because its mentality and surely linked to confidence but it doesnt help. He loses a header and is then out the game
Oliver and Morton ran for anything and everything last year and had a nasty streak in a challenge as well

Smith would be too easy to play against for me, win a few early headers and get his head down and you have him



Agree with all this. In the end it doesn't matter whether you think Harry Smith has some talent or not. He is NEVER going to be the kind of player KC wants him to be and we can't afford confidence players given that we're in a relegation battle. We need players who will give everything even when things are going badly, week in, week out. Harry Smith simply doesn't fit the bill, which is why I prefer BAS. He may not be a world beater, but he gives 100% all the time.
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« Reply #487 on: January 15, 2021, 11:13:11 am »

I'd hate to see what someone looks like that's not good with their feet.

In his 25 minute game time of Tuesday, I recall two occasions where he failed to control a simple pass which resulted in the ball rolling out of play for throw ins.

Not sure if everyone else is trying to put a positive spin on it just in case the potential purchasers are looking at this thread?
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« Reply #488 on: January 15, 2021, 11:33:31 am »

i think itís a myth Smith is good with his feet and i see no evidence of it .
He continually mis controls and passes out of play .
he is a poor mans Clive Platt
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« Reply #489 on: January 15, 2021, 12:13:50 pm »

Smith is not a terrible player apart from his work rate as mentioned

You watch Oliver last season, even headers he didnt win he was straight down and after the next ball
Smith has an awful tendency to throw his arms about, look away, throw a strop, stay on the floor, moan etc etc

It infuriates me because its mentality and surely linked to confidence but it doesnt help. He loses a header and is then out the game
Oliver and Morton ran for anything and everything last year and had a nasty streak in a challenge as well

Smith would be too easy to play against for me, win a few early headers and get his head down and you have him


Totally agree, always looking for someone else to blame apart from himself. I guess many on here have played in teams with people like that....not good
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« Reply #490 on: January 15, 2021, 12:21:48 pm »

Motherwell have signed Steven Lawless, midfield player from Burton, so not Harry.
It appears that we tried to sign Edmonson in the summer before he went to Aberdeen. This time Portsmouth,Shrewsbury, Bradford, St.Johnstone and Hamilton Accies were also in for him.
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« Reply #491 on: January 15, 2021, 13:04:55 pm »

I think it is probably right for both him and the club to move him on but it wouldnít completely amaze me if he is the next striker in the line that didnít impress here but comes good (Morison, Parkin, Howard, Moult etc.)

I think you are right too on Smith. He looked a real handful when he played against us with Macclesfield. It just hasnít paid off and judging by his performance on Tuesday seems out of sorts. As you say he joins a list of failed players and gone onto better things. Hope he does Cool
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« Reply #492 on: January 15, 2021, 13:27:31 pm »

He didnít look good enough last season and then got injured. A league higher and I donít think we should be surprised that he hasnít performed. His first touch is poor, doesnít act or work like a target man, did think he have turned the corner when he got the brace but then fell out of favour and clearly whatever confidence he previously had is now totally gone.
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« Reply #493 on: January 15, 2021, 15:41:18 pm »

i think itís a myth Smith is good with his feet and i see no evidence of it .
He continually mis controls and passes out of play .
he is a poor mans Clive Platt

Hang on, so a rich man would therefore have the REAL Clive Platt?
Sometimes you just can't win!! Grin
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« Reply #494 on: January 15, 2021, 15:44:15 pm »

Just to add a little balance from what Iíve seen of BAS who seems more at home on the floor than in an upright position isnít the answer we are looking for this season.
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« Reply #495 on: January 15, 2021, 15:59:31 pm »

Smith isn't an aerial threat in the way Oliver was and BAS seemingly wants to turn defenders and run in behind, for that he needs through balls from midfield. Neither of them match the way we play.
Perhaps our strikers will be more of a threat if someone like Miller can cut crosses back from the byline, of course they have to get in the box first!
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« Reply #496 on: January 15, 2021, 16:21:47 pm »

Smith isn't an aerial threat in the way Oliver was and BAS seemingly wants to turn defenders and run in behind, for that he needs through balls from midfield. Neither of them match the way we play.
Perhaps our strikers will be more of a threat if someone like Miller can cut crosses back from the byline, of course they have to get in the box first!

BAS and also Edmondsun seem to have score a lot of their goals from wingers getting to the byline and cutting the ball back into the box.
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« Reply #497 on: January 15, 2021, 21:56:29 pm »

Just to add a little balance from what Iíve seen of BAS who seems more at home on the floor than in an upright position isnít the answer we are looking for this season.

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« Reply #498 on: January 15, 2021, 23:04:51 pm »

Put Smith in a side playing decent attacking football in league 2 and he will become a completely different player almost overnight? Wrong system, wrong division, wrong end of the table means heís probably at the wrong club? Donít be surprised to see him back in this division as a dangerous player one day? The lad has potential and he was definitely worth a punt? However at this stage of his career putting him in a side that is often parking the bus and clinging on was never going to work? He needs decent service and fans bigging him up, he gets that and watch out. That what I reckon anyway?
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« Reply #499 on: January 15, 2021, 23:36:31 pm »

Put Smith in a side playing decent attacking football in league 2 and he will become a completely different player almost overnight? Wrong system, wrong division, wrong end of the table means heís probably at the wrong club? Donít be surprised to see him back in this division as a dangerous player one day? The lad has potential and he was definitely worth a punt? However at this stage of his career putting him in a side that is often parking the bus and clinging on was never going to work? He needs decent service and fans bigging him up, he gets that and watch out. That what I reckon anyway?

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