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Did you ask to be judged after your first 2 days in a new job?................No!
You are judged as soon as you walk thru the door?
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2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
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Welly Cobb
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So carry on with uncertainty for a few months?
Would definitely prefer that to prematurely hiring Brady permanently at this stage, but think he should be given a go for a few more games. No transfer window, no real pressure on timescales, nobody coming in now is going to make a difference in the next two games immediately Realistically, they'll be something in the next few weeks, sooner or later depending on the performances and results over the next week.
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You are judged as soon as you walk thru the door?
Rubbish. JB OBVIOUSLY needs quite a bit more time. He's only had a day or two. Very impressive review of the upcoming Ipswich game. I could even understand what he was talking about, plain English. I feel much better about the future now, whether or not we stay up. KC has left so much to do to get these players into the right frame of mind and playing in a system where everyone knows their job. If we make a reasonable fist of trying to stay up and the football improves then give JB, Sammo and Rico the job.
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I have to say it is a complete breath of fresh air listening and reading interviews today compared to what we have been used to . Straight talking and common sense . Updates on injuries and intentions made clear . Pseudo intellectual Curle have none of that and just spouted prophetic gobbledygook to throw you off the plot anc detract from his own miserable failure and turgid tactics that slowly ate your soul to the very bone .
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Saint Cobbler
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You do realise we have to gain a few points over the next 3/4 games~ don’t you think?
Yes, would be good, but the last fella didn't manage it and he is the one who has left us in the right sh*te. I would be happy to go down gracefully with Brady in charge if performances start to improve and we actually start playing some football.
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Saint Cobbler
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I have to say it is a complete breath of fresh air listening and reading interviews today compared to what we have been used to . Straight talking and common sense . Updates on injuries and intentions made clear . Pseudo intellectual Curle have none of that and just spouted prophetic gobbledygook to throw you off the plot anc detract from his own miserable failure and turgid tactics that slowly ate your soul to the very bone .
+1 Couldn't have expressed this more eloquently myself.
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what is the difference between Matt Gray and Jon Brady ? Neither have league management experience but successful at non league level . Jon knows the club and players and is also a very well respected coach . He lives locally and deserves a chance with his own team around him . The only issue is the players are not good enough and he has been left with a poor hand to play . Give him a chance
Is the answer Brady would be cheaper?
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Manwork04
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Give us this long list of those with a good track record..
Comprehension isn’t your thing is it? I SAID THERES ALONG LIST OF MANAGERS, SOME HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD.
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Comprehension isn’t your thing is it? I SAID THERES ALONG LIST OF MANAGERS, SOME HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD.
Ian Holloway, Paul Tisdale, Danny Cowley (two for the price of one)Paul Cook, Neil Harris, Keith Curle and Goldy Locks from AFC Bournemouth...there's an exciting bunch to start with!
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Comprehension isn’t your thing is it? I SAID THERES ALONG LIST OF MANAGERS, SOME HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD.
I genuinely wanted to know the list of those with a good track record. Untwist your panties, man!
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Someone like Liam Rosenior is the type of guy who we should be looking at. Young, exciting, smart.
Why have that though when you can have Joey Barton....
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Manwork04
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I genuinely wanted to know the list of those with a good track record.
Untwist your panties, man!
Apologies, panties untwisted, I’ve already spouted on about Paul Cook, Neil Harris and Danny Cowley, are all listed well in the betting odds, unattached and we could get them if KT really wanted one of them. I just don’t get why we’d go for a very inexperienced non league manager that we would have to pay compensation for?
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Appointing a new manager is never an exact science, a certain amount of luck always plays a part and I for one am glad I don't have to make that decision. We have no idea who may have applied for the job or who we have approached, this could affect who we end up with. If people who are unattached such as Paul Cook have applied for the post we can maybe negotiate on our terms, if we approached them, all the cards are in their hands. At a time when the club is practicing good house keeping, paying compensation for someone with no more experience than Jon Brady makes no sense at all.
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Manwork04
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Appointing a new manager is never an exact science, a certain amount of luck always plays a part and I for one am glad I don't have to make that decision. We have no idea who may have applied for the job or who we have approached, this could affect who we end up with. If people who are unattached such as Paul Cook have applied for the post we can maybe negotiate on our terms, if we approached them, all the cards are in their hands. At a time when the club is practicing good house keeping, paying compensation for someone with no more experience than Jon Brady makes no sense at all.
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CobblerForever
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I honestly can't see any manager turning this set of players around. How many of the current squad would you be keen to keep ? It's obvious that Curle had lost confidence in a fair few of them as they are no longer with us.
Ask Brady et al to do their best to the end of the season and then rebuild from there. In the meantime the Board need to clarify the budget (flexed as appropriate) for next season so that the manager (new or otherwise ) knows what he has to play with.
PS Flexed with reference to the division we are in and the Covid situation with regard to attendance.
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what is the difference between Matt Gray and Jon Brady ? Neither have league management experience but successful at non league level . Jon knows the club and players and is also a very well respected coach . He lives locally and deserves a chance with his own team around him . The only issue is the players are not good enough and he has been left with a poor hand to play . Give him a chance
I don't disagree with what you are saying but you sound a lot 'closer' to Jon Brady than you are letting on?
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Apologies, panties untwisted, I’ve already spouted on about Paul Cook, Neil Harris and Danny Cowley, are all listed well in the betting odds, unattached and we could get them if KT really wanted one of them. I just don’t get why we’d go for a very inexperienced non league manager that we would have to pay compensation for?
Paul Cook and Danny Cowley I agree with. Neil Harris plays relatively poor football so not keen.
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Glastonbury Cobbler
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Paul Cook and Danny Cowley I agree with.
Neil Harris plays relatively poor football so not keen.
Have any of you suggesting Cowley actually seen his team play??? He is at much hoofball as KC. If we could get him and it's a big if, he would cone here, but Micheal Duff has always got Cheltenham in and around the play offs on a small budget and plays decent football, if he'd cone here, he would be my choice.
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I'm struggling to see the logic in 'just giving it to the Brady Bunch to get us through to the summer so we can reassess then' mentality that I'm hearing. If the performance and mood in the camp justifies it surely they get they job and if its doesn't, or we elect to go elsewhere, so be it. I get that its not his team and he's been given a turd but no manager will have it any different.
In my eyes its paramount we get a someone appointed soon to;
a) give us a chance to stay up as it appears there will be 7 teams that will be in the mix and the gap isn't insurmountable, albeit we will need to score some goals! b) give the new guy, or Brady, time to access the current squad in readiness for the summer transfer window, tie contracts up and also line up targets
We are far too often caught flat footed at the start of a season when we change manager, loose players and miss out on targets.
Also, whilst I know money doesn't grow on trees and our Chairman is keen on 'good housekeeping', I believe a manager is paramount to success so surely that justifies a potential compo payment to get the right guy in?
For me, with the position we are in and the potential to stay in L1 and build in the summer, I feel someone like Derek Adams at Morecombe would be a great appointment and he's out of contract this summer so would need limited compo. Good CV with long stints at all his clubs and is working wonders at Morecombe. Even with my claret tinted glasses on I would see us as a more attractive proposition than Morecombe with their budget and general size.
Duff would be a great appointment, and similarly to Adams, I would imagine he has taken Cheltenham as far as he can almost due to their budget constraints. I'd be amazed if they kick on should they get promoted as they will no doubt loose most of their decent players.
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Manwork04
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I'm struggling to see the logic in 'just giving it to the Brady Bunch to get us through to the summer so we can reassess then' mentality that I'm hearing. If the performance and mood in the camp justifies it surely they get they job and if its doesn't, or we elect to go elsewhere, so be it. I get that its not his team and he's been given a turd but no manager will have it any different.
In my eyes its paramount we get a someone appointed soon to;
a) give us a chance to stay up as it appears there will be 7 teams that will be in the mix and the gap isn't insurmountable, albeit we will need to score some goals! b) give the new guy, or Brady, time to access the current squad in readiness for the summer transfer window, tie contracts up and also line up targets
We are far too often caught flat footed at the start of a season when we change manager, loose players and miss out on targets.
Also, whilst I know money doesn't grow on trees and our Chairman is keen on 'good housekeeping', I believe a manager is paramount to success so surely that justifies a potential compo payment to get the right guy in?
For me, with the position we are in and the potential to stay in L1 and build in the summer, I feel someone like Derek Adams at Morecombe would be a great appointment and he's out of contract this summer so would need limited compo. Good CV with long stints at all his clubs and is working wonders at Morecombe. Even with my claret tinted glasses on I would see us as a more attractive proposition than Morecombe with their budget and general size.
Duff would be a great appointment, and similarly to Adams, I would imagine he has taken Cheltenham as far as he can almost due to their budget constraints. I'd be amazed if they kick on should they get promoted as they will no doubt loose most of their decent players.
The last paragraph sounds familiar 😁 Not a bad shout though.
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