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« Reply #460 on: February 24, 2021, 18:38:00 pm »

I definitely won't. This squad is lower League 2 class at best. It will require something startling to change our results but given we are now creating opportunities perhaps Brady's nurturing of Edmondson might suddenly pay dividends. A brace of goals for him and a win against Swindon and you never know.

There are little snippets coming from Brady......Ashley-Seal being dropped and told he has to work harder, training ground work with Edmondson, and today working with Hoskins on the need for him to be more efficient and effective working in wide areas.

This stuff isn't going to bring improvements overnight. How much "individual" training do we guess Curle and co put in with the players?

The more I hear from Brady though the more I feel "Head Coach" rather than Manager.......perhaps that is the route we go down and start looking for a Director of Football to take care of the other stuff?
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« Reply #461 on: February 24, 2021, 19:07:27 pm »

It’s not going to be Brady, otherwise he would have been made permanent by now.
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« Reply #462 on: February 24, 2021, 19:12:45 pm »

You wouldn’t think it would be this hard to come up with a clear plan for the way forward would you? From where I’m sitting 3 or 4 weeks ago nearly everyone professed to have the answer, get rid of Curle problem solved? Between us no one has put forward a convincing argument for anyone or anything since? Other than KT is supposed to be able to answer the question no one else seems to be able to answer themselves with any conviction that is, what a mess? This has got poor decision making based on finger in the air subjective and impulsive thinking all over it, no wonder we are in the sh1t? That goes for the owners right through to just about everyone on this forum? Virtually everyone was clamouring for the removal of Curle and are now completely clueless regarding any sort of cohesive plan or recruitment target to move us forward? Seemingly the only external candidate of note is Paul Cook, a bloke who by all accounts either isn’t remotely interested and/or affordable? If KT has been so poor over this (which he has) and if all these people that have been so critical over the last few months are so correct, where’s the innovative thinking now? Like I said all along (yes this is an I told you so moment) getting rid of people is the easy bit. Who and what comes next and most importantly why is the main challenge? Listen to me and you won’t go far wrong? Brady for me, don’t blow money on an unconvincing candidate and compound the error by chucking more money down the drain when you can least afford it? Take the pressure off the guy and give him time and it may be the best decision after all? In the event it is, please disregard this entire post, apart from the last bit?

Colchester, beaten in last years playoff semi finals last night sacked their manager after a run of one win in 13 games. Today the chairman came out and promoted the assistant manager to the interim head coach position and said he's going to give him a run of games over the next few weeks and see where they are, he also said he's not looking for applicants for the permanent job at this time.

Refreshing for a chairman to come out and say what's what, and also give the new man time to bed in and make his mark before a decision is made and let that fact be known, rather than everyone be in limbo like we seemingly are.  

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« Reply #463 on: February 24, 2021, 19:22:08 pm »

Dean Austin got 7 points from 5 games during his caretaker stint when we got relegated from League One.

John Brady so far has 2 points from 4 games. (If we win against Swindon it will be 5 from 5.)

I personally think KT has been wise to keep a watching brief for now. Brady hasn't done enough to either rule himself in or rule himself out yet. The style of play has undoubtedly improved and players like Watson and Marshall are enjoying some new found freedom after being shackled by Curle. The interviews are impressive and there are promising signs of tough man-management and merit-based selection policies. However, I recall people saying very similar things about Austin when he took over from JFH despite the fact that the Walsall game in particular exposed some worrying tactical naivety which would rear its head with a vengeance in League Two the following season.

What worried me the most against Rochdale was the unwillingness to change the 4-3-3 system when we were being dominated and were desperate for a goal in the second half. That smacks of tactical inflexibility.

I would give Brady the next two games: Swindon and Plymouth. By then we will have pretty conclusive evidence about his capacity to coax goals out of this team and to grind out 'game-managed' wins at this level. I would suggest that anything less than 3 points from those two games would mean a pretty urgent change would be needed. 3 points and above would give him more time, but I would still be a good idea to give him a bit more time to prove he has made sustained improvements.











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« Reply #464 on: February 24, 2021, 19:49:16 pm »

I can’t believe regardless of what some are saying now that Brady will get a ‘free pass’ to the end of the season if results don’t pick up. There’s a long time between now and then and saying he’s inherited Curle’s squad will soon wear thin. Managers take on struggling squads all the time and I’m sure Brady believes he can turn things around or he wouldn’t have touched the position with a barge pole.
I’d like to see some examples of an interim taking charge with 20 games to go from a similar position, getting relegated and getting/keeping a full time role. There won’t be many, if any.
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« Reply #465 on: February 24, 2021, 20:19:47 pm »

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-insists-cobblers-are-making-clear-progress-and-results-will-start-to-turn-3145561
Sounds like he's been told that he's here until the end of the season? Wink
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« Reply #466 on: February 24, 2021, 20:41:56 pm »

It's all IF's and buts though isn't it?
We don't know IF Paul Cook would be interested in joining us
We don't know IF we could afford him.
We don't know IF KT has approached him.

Dean Austin had 5 games to keep us up, IF he'd 10 would he have succeeded? Would JFH have had the chop sooner IF he hadn't been involved in all the Walter Tull tributes?
IF we had won the first game of the next season against Lincoln by 4 or 5 deserved goals would we have gone up instead of them?

IF we had brought in a manager instead of JB would we have any more points than we do now?
IF all our shots against the woodwork during JB's tenure had gone in would he now be a hero?

Personally I would give JB another 5 games as long as the points gap to safety doesn't grow.

IF and when KT does appoint another manager I think I disagree with his philosophy of not interfering with the football side and style of play. I think it is good IF the manager is told what style of football is required, create an identity.
 
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« Reply #467 on: February 24, 2021, 20:48:36 pm »


He needs a win though
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« Reply #468 on: February 24, 2021, 20:53:05 pm »

He needs a win though

Would be nice, but it didn't stipulate that as a requirement.
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« Reply #469 on: February 24, 2021, 21:22:21 pm »

Of course he is, doesn't cost us anything does it.
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« Reply #470 on: February 25, 2021, 01:04:46 am »

So it looks like we’re split into 3 camps:
1) The Brady bunch
2) Paul cook
3) Don’t have a clue but I’ll moan and criticise whatever

The elephant in the room is the KC legacy of Fcuking up 2 transfer windows and leaving us strikerless.
This isn’t going to be solved by anyone until the next window so ....
Let’s just all relax and support KTs decision - whatever it is.

I’m in the Brady bunch camp but whoever is appointed gets my support and my 2021/22 Season ticket money.
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« Reply #471 on: February 25, 2021, 06:07:07 am »

So it looks like we’re split into 3 camps:
1) The Brady bunch
2) Paul cook
3) Don’t have a clue but I’ll moan and criticise whatever

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4) Just don't know
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« Reply #472 on: February 25, 2021, 07:00:59 am »

I personally would stick with Jon Brady and his team, as bringing in a new manager doesn't guarantee anything.
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« Reply #473 on: February 25, 2021, 11:08:45 am »

You wouldn’t think it would be this hard to come up with a clear plan for the way forward would you? From where I’m sitting 3 or 4 weeks ago nearly everyone professed to have the answer, get rid of Curle problem solved? Between us no one has put forward a convincing argument for anyone or anything since? Other than KT is supposed to be able to answer the question no one else seems to be able to answer themselves with any conviction that is, what a mess? This has got poor decision making based on finger in the air subjective and impulsive thinking all over it, no wonder we are in the sh1t? That goes for the owners right through to just about everyone on this forum? Virtually everyone was clamouring for the removal of Curle and are now completely clueless regarding any sort of cohesive plan or recruitment target to move us forward? Seemingly the only external candidate of note is Paul Cook, a bloke who by all accounts either isn’t remotely interested and/or affordable? If KT has been so poor over this (which he has) and if all these people that have been so critical over the last few months are so correct, where’s the innovative thinking now? Like I said all along (yes this is an I told you so moment) getting rid of people is the easy bit. Who and what comes next and most importantly why is the main challenge? Listen to me and you won’t go far wrong? Brady for me, don’t blow money on an unconvincing candidate and compound the error by chucking more money down the drain when you can least afford it? Take the pressure off the guy and give him time and it may be the best decision after all? In the event it is, please disregard this entire post, apart from the last bit?

From what I can understand from above it was a mistake to sack Curle? Given the last 2/3 (Curle) games the clamour for his  removal was such that KT bowed to the pressure to remove him; to do so was unavoidable? In your early messages on KC you suggested that it would be a mistake to sack Curle? Given that you gave some plausible reasons for not doing so based on that I upheld your view. From what I can gather you now appear to still subscribe to that view? You summarise by saying we are now in a mess and appear to have no alternative but to go with JB? Please correct any misguided interpretation!
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« Reply #474 on: February 25, 2021, 11:58:39 am »

From what I can understand from above it was a mistake to sack Curle? Given the last 2/3 (Curle) games the clamour for his  removal was such that KT bowed to the pressure to remove him; to do so was unavoidable? In your early messages on KC you suggested that it would be a mistake to sack Curle? Given that you gave some plausible reasons for not doing so based on that I upheld your view. From what I can gather you now appear to still subscribe to that view? You summarise by saying we are now in a mess and appear to have no alternative but to go with JB? Please correct any misguided interpretation!

I am genuinely confused by the people who were very vocal about wanting KC sacked but are also now asking who is out there to turn things around. So many wanted him gone but now have no idea of which realistic target they would want.
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« Reply #475 on: February 25, 2021, 12:23:24 pm »

Doesnt matter who's in charge if we cant beat Wigan, Dale or Burton we're down.
Need to be concentrating on coming back to League 1 up next season.
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« Reply #476 on: February 25, 2021, 12:30:16 pm »

Doesnt matter who's in charge if we cant beat Wigan, Dale or Burton we're down.
Need to be concentrating on coming back to League 1 up next season.

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« Reply #477 on: February 25, 2021, 13:23:52 pm »

I am genuinely confused by the people who were very vocal about wanting KC sacked but are also now asking who is out there to turn things around. So many wanted him gone but now have no idea of which realistic target they would want.

You the same as everyone else dont know what a realistic target is , what wages are we going to pay , are we going to pay off another club. some including me though Curle was taking us down , i believe Brady can keep us up .
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« Reply #478 on: February 25, 2021, 14:21:18 pm »

From what I can understand from above it was a mistake to sack Curle? Given the last 2/3 (Curle) games the clamour for his  removal was such that KT bowed to the pressure to remove him; to do so was unavoidable? In your early messages on KC you suggested that it would be a mistake to sack Curle? Given that you gave some plausible reasons for not doing so based on that I upheld your view. From what I can gather you now appear to still subscribe to that view? You summarise by saying we are now in a mess and appear to have no alternative but to go with JB? Please correct any misguided interpretation!
Bit of an anomaly Evers because my preference was for financial stability. That was spend nothing and take the pressure off Curle by guaranteeing his job this season irrespective of results. However, whilst that was my view originally things have panned out slightly differently due to the bale out etc which perhaps makes that view more questionable in hindsight? It also must be said that many people have brought season tickets and the like, and as a result they are perfectly entitled to demand different standards from the financial one that I prioritised. Therefore whilst I had a firm opinion about the route I would have taken I am quite reluctant to be too critical of people for having an alternative view because it has to be said that each option comes with a risk attached?
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« Reply #479 on: February 25, 2021, 14:58:44 pm »

You the same as everyone else dont know what a realistic target is , what wages are we going to pay , are we going to pay off another club. some including me though Curle was taking us down , i believe Brady can keep us up .

I wasn’t shouting for KC to be sacked. If you read my comment I was referring to people who were very vocal about wanting Curle out.
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