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It's the same with any job. You are meaured on your current performance not past victories. Nobody else is to blame for his sacking but himself. It's the same as a salesman losing his job because he has failed to meet this years targets even though he has met them for the past ten years. Do you not sack him because of his "personal circumstances"? Failure to perform gets you shown to the door.
SingCob, As you might guess the point is that anybody sacked is as Melly puts it can (quote) ‘be devastating' (end quote) whether they are well healed, a football manager, a Salesman or even general public it can be a blow. Perhaps they deserve to lose their job but somebody maybe affected. I guess it can be a personal thing. To reiterate I quite liked Curle but was aghast at the last 3/4 games. Simply put; to me those two wins with the promotion put a spring in my step as it probably did for many on here. I prefer to remember him for his successes not his failures. Hope this satisfies your interest? As this particular comment has run its course; that's all from me. Good luck and UPC
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Pretty much inevitable you would side with Campbell considering he is deluded and has issues. The guy who's CV reads, spent 10 days with England Under-21s boss Aidy Boothroyd? "The FA is institutionally racist". "I believe if I was white I would've been England captain for more than 10 years". "I think the FA wished I was white. I had the credibility, performance-wise, to be captain. I was consistently in the heart of the defence and I was a club captain early on my career". "I’ve asked myself many times why I wasn’t [captain]. I keep coming up with the same answer. It was the colour of my skin." "When I left Spurs I was one of the best defenders in the world and had done so much for such a long time with ultimately little reward. I practically kept the club up on my own for two years" Nothing but racebait.
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I really cant see what can be gained from getting anyone else in, we as supporters should do all we can to get JB and team the job.
Groundhog day again. Look at all the "name" managers we've had, from Internationals, promotion winners even European Cup winners and what have they achieved? Bugger all.
Since colour was invented, the most enjoyable football times we have had came from Carr, Atkins, Sammo and Wilder, the football may have been gash but even under Chard there was heart and belief.
Time to stop this utter bollocks, Brady may not be able to turn this ship around in time this season but, he'd put more bums on seats in league two, gain more support and team spirit than KC would do in league one. Its a business isn't it?
Its not my money of course but I think it would be best spent on players for Brady in the summer than big bucks for a Charlie big potatoes.
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It's the same with any job. You are meaured on your current performance not past victories. Nobody else is to blame for his sacking but himself. It's the same as a salesman losing his job because he has failed to meet this years targets even though he has met them for the past ten years. Do you not sack him because of his "personal circumstanes"? Failure to perform gets you shown to the door.
Not to defend the KC sacking but it’s always a poor defence to compare a football managers sacking to a ‘regular’ job. The football manager usually has the protection of a contract. In most jobs you wouldn’t get sacked for a poor couple of months, or even a year. I guess you may walk on a compromise agreement, or protracted performance management process. Fortunately we have employment laws and HR policies to protect us from that, although there’s plenty of cowboy firms who would fire people on a whim. I’m guessing I work for a good un!
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SingCob, As you might guess the point is that anybody sacked is as Melly puts it can (quote}be devastating' (end quote) whether they are well healed, a football manager, a Salesman or even general public it can be a blow. Perhaps they deserve to lose their job but somebody maybe affected. I guess it can be a personal thing. To reiterate I quite liked Curle but was aghast at the last 3/4 games. Simply put; to me those two wins with the promotion put a spring in my step as it probably did for many on here. I prefer to remember him for his successes not his failures. Hope this satisfies your interest? As this particular comment has run its course; that's all from me. Good luck and UPC
Not to defend the KC sacking but it’s always a poor defence to compare a football managers sacking to a ‘regular’ job. The football manager usually has the protection of a contract. In most jobs you wouldn’t get sacked for a poor couple of months, or even a year. I guess you may walk on a compromise agreement, or protracted performance management process. Fortunately we have employment laws and HR policies to protect us from that, although there’s plenty of cowboy firms who would fire people on a whim. I’m guessing I work for a good un!
The reason I used the salesman as an example is because both jobs are results oriented. Evers, I could not agree more. I was so looking forward to the start of the season after the fantastic run and play-off victories, with hopes of more play-off games, or at least comfortable survival in L1, but the fare that was served up by KC this season was dire, but as you say let's remember the good times and also remember we are in L1(albeit in a shít position) thanks to KC. Cobblerrtone. Believe me salespeople get shown the door for poor performance on a regular basis and they do have contracts which offer the standard protection from being sacked on a whim. What the man in the street does not have is the parachute payments made until the end of their contracts or until they find a new job. Pretty much every job to a greater or lesser extent is performance based and as a manager your job is to get the best performance from your team wether it be a football team or a team building widgits and failure to do this will get you shown the door.
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My order of preference would be:
1. John Brady (on the very important proviso that he proves that he can get wins at this level over the next three games or so) 2. An experienced L1 head like Paul Cook (unlikely) or 3. An up-and-coming League 2 manager like Michael Flynn or at Newport at Duff at Cheltenham (would require compensation but would pay off massively IMO - c.f. Wilder)
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My order of preference would be:
1. John Brady (on the very important proviso that he proves that he can get wins at this level over the next three games or so) 2. An experienced L1 head like Paul Cook (unlikely) or 3. An up-and-coming League 2 manager like Michael Flynn or at Newport at Duff at Cheltenham (would require compensation but would pay off massively IMO - c.f. Wilder)
How about 4. Taking a punt on a non-league manager, porbably a cheaper option than 2 and 3. Maybe we get a manager who has a singleminded very driven attitude to show their prowess in a higher league.
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Pretty much inevitable you would side with Campbell considering he is deluded and has issues. The guy who's CV reads, spent 10 days with England Under-21s boss Aidy Boothroyd?
"The FA is institutionally racist".
"I believe if I was white I would've been England captain for more than 10 years".
"I think the FA wished I was white. I had the credibility, performance-wise, to be captain. I was consistently in the heart of the defence and I was a club captain early on my career".
"I’ve asked myself many times why I wasn’t [captain]. I keep coming up with the same answer. It was the colour of my skin."
"When I left Spurs I was one of the best defenders in the world and had done so much for such a long time with ultimately little reward. I practically kept the club up on my own for two years"
Nothing but racebait.
Apart from your probable unsubstantiated comments what has he actually done wrong?
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Apart from your probable unsubstantiated comments what has he actually done wrong?
You remind me of The Black Knight.
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Apart from your probable unsubstantiated comments what has he actually done wrong?
He is quoted as saying he was subjected to the worst case of personal racism against him at Sixfields that he experienced in his whole playing career. I think that's what he said anyhow? As one of the many in the North at the time I can categorically say I heard nothing of the sort and I'm pretty sure I would not have missed something as apparently overt as that.
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You remind me of The Black Knight. Please tell what is your problem?
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I suggested that you look 'beneath' the headlines and you quote one back at me?
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I suggested that you look 'beneath' the headlines and you quote one back at me? What did you expect?
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Tall, short, fat, thin, black, white, gay, straight and anything in between....some people are just horrible c*nts.
He just never portrays himself as a very nice person. Perhaps he just wasn’t as good as he thought he was.
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He is quoted as saying he was subjected to the worst case of personal racism against him at Sixfields that he experienced in his whole playing career. I think that's what he said anyhow?
As one of the many in the North at the time I can categorically say I heard nothing of the sort and I'm pretty sure I would not have missed something as apparently overt as that.
It's an interesting one. Why would he say that? I'm not saying that there was a any racist remarks but you can't help wondering why he would pick out Sixfields. There's no other animosity as far as I know.
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It's an interesting one. Why would he say that? I'm not saying that there was a any racist remarks but you can't help wondering why he would pick out Sixfields. There's no other animosity as far as I know.
He took plenty of stick that night, but I didn't hear one word of it relating to his colour.
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Not much of a prospect now 4 from safety. Who in their right mind would want the challenge?
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Not much of a prospect now 4 from safety. Who in their right mind would want the challenge?
Plenty would. If they could keep us up it would look good on anyone's CV.
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Plenty would. If they could keep us up it would look good on anyone's CV.
Nobody is keeping this group of players up
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