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« Reply #220 on: March 31, 2021, 12:05:52 pm »

As I've stated quite a few times, NTFC CAN be run on a break even figure, well it could before Covid, and it was under DC for a couple of years. How much of our current debt is down to paying off previous managers who were given too long contracts ? How much is KT paid ?
      I presume our the detail of our debt to Belle De Jour is not visible due to the company being based in the Virgin Islands ? Remind me again, why do people set up businesses  in the Virgin Islands ?

Well we don't have the information to answer all of that, but it will involve a big change of mindset from supporters in their expectations of the money spent on the squad and the sacking of managers.

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« Reply #221 on: March 31, 2021, 12:08:23 pm »

James Whiting will have a schedule of how those employee numbers are calculated. Ask him via twitter. I've found him responsive in the past.
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« Reply #222 on: March 31, 2021, 12:14:58 pm »

Over a million on administrative expenses?
That’s a lot of post it notes, staples and paperclips.
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« Reply #223 on: March 31, 2021, 12:47:31 pm »

I think as time goes on it becomes more and more apparent that KT is pretty much a clone of DC, maybe that's your average chairman. Both waiting for the fruit machine to pay out. The trouble is that the deeper you get in the harder it is to walk away. At some point you get that deep in that you need to cut your losses.
DC tried to take his 'opportunity' and made a royal mess of it.
They both have/had the benefit of being surrounded by apathy and (understandably) the average fan is only interested with what's on offer on the pitch.
If he'd just built the stand, then that would have been enough for those still asking any questions.
 
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« Reply #224 on: March 31, 2021, 13:21:34 pm »

Over a million on administrative expenses?
That’s a lot of post it notes, staples and paperclips.

Mostly tippex.
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« Reply #225 on: March 31, 2021, 13:39:51 pm »

Over a million on administrative expenses?
That’s a lot of post it notes, staples and paperclips.

Admin expenses can mean a whole load of things.

I know each business is different, but as an example, where I work (headcount approx double NTFC's), the monthly admin expenses budget is nearly £1m.
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« Reply #226 on: March 31, 2021, 13:57:22 pm »

EMPLOYEES AND DIRECTORS
The average number of employees during the year was 287 (2019 - 283)
Have we really got an average of 287 employees? Seems a lot to me. I'm sure to be corrected but I thought the bar and catering were franchised and the stewards were voluntary. 31 in the first team squad leaves a balance of 256....256?? Someone help me out I just can't see it.
I think the bars and catering are in house at the moment. I seem to remember this question coming up in previous years and being told that ALL the part time staff were included in those figures.
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« Reply #227 on: March 31, 2021, 14:01:11 pm »

I think as time goes on it becomes more and more apparent that KT is pretty much a clone of DC, maybe that's your average chairman. Both waiting for the fruit machine to pay out. The trouble is that the deeper you get in the harder it is to walk away. At some point you get that deep in that you need to cut your losses.
DC tried to take his 'opportunity' and made a royal mess of it.
They both have/had the benefit of being surrounded by apathy and (understandably) the average fan is only interested with what's on offer on the pitch.
If he'd just built the stand, then that would have been enough for those still asking any questions.
 
We really need a super fan with a Euromillions win who needs a hobby!

Lee Geary...though he may struggle with the millions side of the deal!  Grin
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« Reply #228 on: March 31, 2021, 15:03:19 pm »

£2 a week each, Hotel end euro millions syndicate. 

Blimey, can you imagine how much strife there would be if a syndicate of, say 100 diehard NTFC supporters did this, and actually came up trumps!

It would be chaos...
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« Reply #229 on: March 31, 2021, 16:52:14 pm »

I fully expect a painful, can’t really be bothered, broom cupboard style KT interview on why the accounts are in fact great and things like that should be left to important people.
Everything is too much trouble for “self important” KT, I once had the misfortune to share a corporate stage with Theo Paphitis of Dragons Den fame, he spent the entire evening telling me how great he was and how much his Maybach had cost him, I liken him to KT in many ways.
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« Reply #230 on: March 31, 2021, 20:43:59 pm »

256 staff. £5million turnover. Bonkers. £20k if they were all paid equally and none left over for a liver-sausage bap for Clarence.
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« Reply #231 on: March 31, 2021, 22:38:55 pm »

Not sure I agree with this. Even if by some miracle we scrape to survival, it won't mask the flaws in the way this season has been mishandled. Of course, there will be those who blame it entirely on C-19. Isn't that right, Terry? Wink

I don't think we need a miracle because all we have to do is play reasonably well; with determination and spirit. From that goals will follow. Our biggest ally is the other 5 or 6 teams threatened by relegation whose results fluctuate like the proverbial tarts knickers. You could have 6 balls in a bag and the first four out go down! It is all very unpredictable; we also have to have hold our nerve. Some of the death wish comment on here is breath taking. You almost get the impression that some will only be happy if we do!
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« Reply #232 on: March 31, 2021, 23:03:44 pm »

256 staff. £5million turnover. Bonkers. £20k if they were all paid equally .
That's not bad pay, just under a grand per game for the match day staff.  Wink
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« Reply #233 on: April 01, 2021, 06:17:36 am »

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/chief-executive-james-whiting-in-positve-mood-as-cobblers-file-their-annual-accounts-3184601
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« Reply #234 on: April 01, 2021, 06:37:45 am »

That's not bad pay, just under a grand per game for the match day staff.  Wink

Casual workers are not classified as employees in accounts so none of the players are included in that figure.
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« Reply #235 on: April 01, 2021, 07:26:59 am »

Every expenditure is included in the accounting figures, it’s how the tax liability is calculated.
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« Reply #236 on: April 01, 2021, 07:29:58 am »

Casual workers are not classified as employees in accounts so none of the players are included in that figure.

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« Reply #237 on: April 01, 2021, 07:51:37 am »

We must be paying some of the lowest wages in League 1 and would be mid range in League 2 .
It is no surprise we have got players that are extremely average .
Any player we want to keep next season could easily be tempted away with the offer of only a moderate pay rise i would imagine .
No wonder we recruited from non league and players literally on the scrap heap .
Meanwhile , our losses are cut by two thirds .
Watch out for our few decent players going for nothing .
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« Reply #238 on: April 01, 2021, 10:46:52 am »

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« Reply #239 on: April 01, 2021, 11:14:56 am »

We must be paying some of the lowest wages in League 1 and would be mid range in League 2 .
It is no surprise we have got players that are extremely average .
Any player we want to keep next season could easily be tempted away with the offer of only a moderate pay rise i would imagine .
No wonder we recruited from non league and players literally on the scrap heap .
Meanwhile , our losses are cut by two thirds .
Watch out for our few decent players going for nothing .

Ref your claim that we are paying some of the lowest wages in League 1 can you advise on any source where you can be confident that they are fact. Sounds to me a typical B&S statement based on personal opinion presented as fact.
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