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« on: March 29, 2021, 19:33:45 pm »

Right, this is going to be a long and rambling tirade of criticism and honesty so bear with me, I've had a few.
I think it's the return of TFAMH that's stoked my ire, especially when, as soon as KT is mentioned he's straIght
on it, then denies he's his number one fan. Nothing against you personally Hamster but you can't deny the club
and the development haven't really moved on since he got here despite all the promises. If anything we're in a worse position, further in debt and if/when we get relegated this season we could be staring oblivion in the face. If I'm wrong I'll be straight
on here to admit my negativity. Anyway on to my other massive annoyance, Northampton people not supporting the club
that represents the place they were born, live, work, where their children were born and ultimately where most will spend the
rest of their lives. Why devote your football supporting life to some other town or city 100 plus miles away or London, just
because they happened to be successful when you were growing up and developing your interest in football. Not picking on
Hamster again, and I apologise if you were born on the Kings Road, but if you're a similar age to me, I imagine your affinity
with Chelsea began with their FA cup win in 1970, just as many others began their "support" with other teams in similar
successful  periods. As I said, this is going to consist of criticism and honesty. I wasn't born in Northampton, but have lived
here since I was 2 years old. When I was at school, I thought I was a Man Utd fan, Best, Charlton, Law etc, like most, not all,
youngsters at the time, I was enamoured with the big names. Just like Evers, probably in the fifties, with Newcastls and Jackie Milburn, even though I was still going to the County Ground whenever  pocket money would allow. By the time I was 14 or fifteen, probably coinciding with our promotion as runners up to Lincoln, my total affinity to Cobblers was affirmed and despite being relegated immediately, there was no going back, I'd grown out of shallow affinity. That's why I just can't get grown men supporting
teams from distant horizons with which they have absolutely no connection apart from latching on to them when they had a bit of success when they were kids. As I've said previously, it doesn't happen in any other sport, or at any other level. How many English people support Brazil, Germany or Italy because they're more successful than England?

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2021, 19:55:56 pm »

So you've posted on Forum for NTFC supporters moaning at the people who don't support the Cobblers ? That will achieve what exactly?
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2021, 20:54:30 pm »

So you've posted on Forum for NTFC supporters moaning at the people who don't support the Cobblers ? That will achieve what exactly?
Well, just making a point and giving an opinion, one of the observations being, that the fact that probably the 80 or 90 percent of
football supporters in the county that don't support the only football league team in the county have contributed to the reason we are where we are and have been for years, although, sadly it happens all over the country. Also, I imagine that there are probably other people on here who have a "Premier" team, in fact I've been asked on several occasions, by different people, on finding out I'm a Cobblers fan; "Yes, but who's your prem team"? To which I've remained and remain incredulous. When you support 2 teams, or even more unbelievably, more than 2 as some possibly misguided people do, when Cobblers lose, in a completely unacceptable manner as they did Saturday, but your "prem team" or perhaps Scottish team win, do you feel absolutely gutted, angry and feel your weekends been ruined, but elated, over the moon and on cloud nine at the same time?
 So questioning why I'm posting an opinion on football supporters on a football forum will achieve what exactly?
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2021, 21:16:37 pm »

Sorry mate, but it does appear you're posting on a forum, complaining about the very people who won't be reading it.
Or its just a pop at Fenners, again.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2021, 22:08:06 pm »

Sorry mate, but it does appear you're posting on a forum, complaining about the very people who won't be reading it.
Or its just a pop at Fenners, again.
Well, I'm sure he'll take it on the chin. But a football forum is for people to post info and opinion on all manner of subjects
relating to football and their geographical or chosen affilliation. It's actually a big deal to me that a lot of  people don't get the
importance of supporting their local team and often state the reason  for not supporting us is that "we're s***e" or some other constructive insult, when, as an example, Leeds were "s***e" for several years, but it didn't stop many local Leeds fans from
sticking by them, in fact when we played at Leeds a few year ago we stopped at pub just outside Leeds and a coach load of   
Leeds fans from Northampton pulled up, you couldn't make it up, and I recognised several of them from Cobblers games over the years. So, many desert us because "we're s***e" but don't desert the shallow affinities they had as kids when they're s***e.
Interested in other opinions on this and also as a related subject, while offering no solution. If we had a bigger/better ground over the years, especially since moving to Sixfields, do you think we could have been more successful with bigger crowds, due to the fact that people could have rolled up on the day in the knowledge they could definately have got a ticket without the restrictions on ease of attendance that a tiny ground brings and the fact we've had a modicum of success, albeit unsustained since we've been here. "But we can't fill it as it is" doesn't cut it. Straying into the development thread now.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2021, 22:10:37 pm »

Why don't you support the team from or near to the place that you were born?
I do, even though I left when I was 16 which was 44 years ago.
I do have a 'Prem' and a Bundesliga team that I 'follow' and continue to go to watch occasionally, but I regularly support my home town team, home and away, even though I currently live 90+ miles away.
My daughter has no affinity with Northampton, but supports us the same, also attending many games home and away (she's too old now to call Social Services).  Grin
There are many on this board who also have not lived in the Town for a while but are always in attendance home and away.

There are many who live in Northampton (especially those that moved to the Town in the 60's/70's), who are the reverse of my own/our situation, who support their team of origin and probably take their own children with them the same. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2021, 23:15:33 pm »

Personally I really don’t care, people can watch football in whatever way they want and get what they want out of the experience. If that’s supporting their local team home and away that’s cool, if it’s supporting the biggest team from the comfort of your armchair that fine too, or maybe even travelling hundreds of miles to a different country to watch a team because you really liked their kit when you were young.

I definitely didn’t feel obliged to support my local team, I could have easily supported my parents teams or the biggest team of the team of the day but I just knew after being taken to a game as a kid that the cobblers were my team. I know it’s going to be a roller coaster ride and bar an amazing amount of luck we are always going to be playing at a certain level. I’m not going to lose my sh1t because we don’t have a chairman wanting to throw away millions of pounds or that we don’t play football like Manchester City because if that sort of stuff really bothers you then you probably chose the wrong team to support. I’m going to cherish the win against Liverpool, the trips to Wembley and the great sides, I’m also going to moan when we’ve got an awful team but but hey that won’t be forever (hopefully!).

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2021, 05:04:48 am »

Damn it, I best switch from supporting the cobblers then, and support the mighty poppies, then my second team would be Earls  Barton United as that’s where I lived for over 20 years.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2021, 09:03:45 am »

Damn it, I best switch from supporting the cobblers then, and support the mighty poppies, then my second team would be Earls  Barton United as that’s where I lived for over 20 years.
At least Earls Barton United are having a new expanded ground built unlike NTFC!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2021, 11:05:18 am »

Right, this is going to be a long and rambling tirade of criticism and honesty so bear with me, I've had a few.
I think it's the return of TFAMH that's stoked my ire, especially when, as soon as KT is mentioned he's straIght
on it, then denies he's his number one fan. Nothing against you personally Hamster but you can't deny the club
and the development haven't really moved on since he got here despite all the promises. If anything we're in a worse position, further in debt and if/when we get relegated this season we could be staring oblivion in the face. If I'm wrong I'll be straight
on here to admit my negativity. Anyway on to my other massive annoyance, Northampton people not supporting the club
that represents the place they were born, live, work, where their children were born and ultimately where most will spend the
rest of their lives. Why devote your football supporting life to some other town or city 100 plus miles away or London, just
because they happened to be successful when you were growing up and developing your interest in football. Not picking on
Hamster again, and I apologise if you were born on the Kings Road, but if you're a similar age to me, I imagine your affinity
with Chelsea began with their FA cup win in 1970, just as many others began their "support" with other teams in similar
successful  periods. As I said, this is going to consist of criticism and honesty. I wasn't born in Northampton, but have lived
here since I was 2 years old. When I was at school, I thought I was a Man Utd fan, Best, Charlton, Law etc, like most, not all,
youngsters at the time, I was enamoured with the big names. Just like Evers, probably in the fifties, with Newcastls and Jackie Milburn, even though I was still going to the County Ground whenever  pocket money would allow. By the time I was 14 or fifteen, probably coinciding with our promotion as runners up to Lincoln, my total affinity to Cobblers was affirmed and despite being relegated immediately, there was no going back, I'd grown out of shallow affinity. That's why I just can't get grown men supporting
teams from distant horizons with which they have absolutely no connection apart from latching on to them when they had a bit of success when they were kids. As I've said previously, it doesn't happen in any other sport, or at any other level. How many English people support Brazil, Germany or Italy because they're more successful than England?



Whilst I'm in the business of making you "incredulous". You might want to throw in the Seattle Sounders as well. I've got a genuine soft spot for them and attend their games on rare occasions. I don't mind a bit of UCL action as well..

I'll await your judgement your honour  Grin Grin Tongue Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2021, 11:13:54 am »

I was born 10 miles from Northampton and have supported them for about 60 years. I have never had any firm interest in a premiership team and am also baffled by people who claim to support teams who they have no connection to. The same few teams are usually at the top of the premiership every season and if they have a weakness in a certain position the answer is "here is £50 million go and find a replacement". These teams are filled with foreign players which is not good for our national team. I rarely watch premiership games, occasionally I might see part of a sunday afternoon Sky match. I cannot recall the last time I watched a Champions league game and I am more likely to watch a game between 2 other teams from the lower divisions.
I believe that whenever we achieve a promotion it is more of an achievement because we have had to do it on a tight budget. On the other hand perhaps I had better go and support MK as I was born in North Bucks.
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2021, 11:19:22 am »

I do get Shoes frustration. I find it bordering hilarious when a grown man born and bred in Croydon talks about Liverpool as “we”! And Shoes’ Leeds example would make me shake my head too.

But folks can support who they “choose to” - I personally feel I didn’t have a choice. I was a big Liverpool supporter at the height of their European success but now (I’ve grown up!) I can’t stand them.

No offence Terry, but Seattle Sounders are not a good example. To my knowledge NTFC aren’t likely to play them anytime soon. The question is, who would you support if Cobbs played your Premier League fave. The answer to that question answers the question who you support unreservedly.

Anyways. One thing we can agree on - you really can’t criticise folks for who the support or encourage them to support someone else. Proof of that is Norman Knobhead Tebbit who insisted that all Indians living in the Uk should support England when playing India at cricket. That went down particularly well with my Indian mate living in Edinburgh!!
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2021, 11:58:29 am »

Whilst I'm in the business of making you "incredulous". You might want to throw in the Seattle Sounders as well. I've got a genuine soft spot for them and attend their games on rare occasions. I don't mind a bit of UCL action as well..

I'll await your judgement your honour  Grin Grin Tongue Tongue
Seattle fcking Sounders...right, that's it!  Grin
I thought it was Portland Timbers?

Several times I've spoken to Leicester fans, most recently in the Parcel Yard (great pub) outside Leicester Station, after they'd been at home to Burnley, who are Northants based - Kettering, Higham Ferrers etc, who'd been Cobblers fans in the great Carr 87 era...but have moved on. Bit strange to take in, especially as I used to travel then from Hinckley and later Leicester, following the Cobblers!
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2021, 12:17:53 pm »

I’ve got into a few arguments, normally when pissed but I’d say it sober as well when I’ve asked fairly straightforward questions about prem supporting people. Normally starts when UTD/City/ etc score in places like the Pickering Phipps, a hotbed of sky sports football and a few people go mad and I say it must be frustrating watching it in the pub. Who do you normally get tickets from when you go and watch them?

 Usual bs answer is can’t get tickets/ went once to a charity shield game/friendly.  B0llocks

I don’t have a problem with people who do actively follow a team and have friends who are big Utd/LFC fans etc who have been all over the country and Europe following them.  Normally a family link somewhere in there somewhere to start it off. They often take in a few Cobblers games a year for good balance to see real football of a standard you can relate to from your park football days..

I’m one of the hardcore minority. No second team but if there was a spare at a big game and I had nothing else on I’d go but it wouldn’t be the same
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2021, 13:01:42 pm »

It's the media, relentless in their pursuit of an audience and revenue that have made it  more acceptable for someone from Northampton with absolutely no connection to a premiership club to support them. If the game had continued as it were I think a majority of grown up fans would revert to a team closer to where they reside or where they were born at some point.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2021, 15:11:32 pm »

Since living my first 17 years in Northampton and watching probably the most successful period of success of any team in the country up to 1966, I have lived in many places in the UK and overseas, but for some strange reason I can't get the Cobblers out of my system. I've tried watching Whitstable as that is where I now live but they're even more sh*te than we are! I got near to quite liking West Ham when I lived in Ilford for a while but that didn't last. I hang on to every minute of every game with NTFC yet get bored watching anyone else. Might go for a mental health check sometime soon.  Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2021, 15:17:36 pm »

Sorry to inform you sir but this is an incurable position. You’re going to have to learn to live with the limitations of enjoyment this will place on you. Your wallet and quality of life may also be affected although you may recover slightly during the summer months
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2021, 17:59:20 pm »

I don't support any other team than the Cobblers. I might follow the fortunes of a few others, but only out of a passing interest.
There is however one team that I will shout my lungs out for when they are playing. That is any team that is playing BayernFúckingMunich, I hate them with every fibre of my body.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2021, 18:27:46 pm »

I don't support any other team than the Cobblers. I might follow the fortunes of a few others, but only out of a passing interest.
There is however one team that I will shout my lungs out for when they are playing. That is any team that is playing BayernFúckingMunich, I hate them with every fibre of my body.
Yep, TSV 1860 any day of the week!  Wink
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Yep, TSV 1860 any day of the week!  Wink
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