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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2021, 21:19:15 pm »

Watson and Lloyd jones will both leave - probably to stay in division 1.
Sheehan will retire .
Ashley - Seal will be told to leave and so will Smith and Korboa .
Marshall will be released .
Both keepers will drop out of football unless Arnold is kept as 2nd choice .
Harriman , horsfall , mills , mcwilliams , sowerby , hoskins , rose will
all be kept .
They will try and offload Bolger .
Edmondson will end up non league .


Bolger thankfully only signed an initial one year contract so he'll be released...won't have played enough games to get an automatic extension (if that option was even included)

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/august/cian_bolger/

Korboa also initially only signed for one year too...

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/september/ricky_korboa/

No way should we keep Arnold, absolutely bang average & never known a keeper so injury prone...plenty of competent keepers out there...just need to make sure we bring in a proper number one, rather than two extremely average ones.
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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2021, 21:27:02 pm »

In the absence of a billionaire chairman what exactly would be the criteria for a new chairman/board? There seems to be a growing groundswell of opinion that we need a change?
1. What are the priorities, stadium, squad, new management team or any combination of?
2. What is the expectation regarding budget? As a guide pre-Covid we were turning over 4 million and the current board were apparently spending circa an extra million per year?
3. What would people’s expectations be regarding any new budget (sorry that should have read our worst case league position?)
4. What would constitute a successful tenure for any new board and in what timeframe?
5. In the event any new board were successful relevant to any forecast, what is the assumption regarding the impact on gate numbers achievable for us as a club?
I haven’t seen much in the way of any plan or specific expectations other than we should be league1/championship and complete the East Stand, but the strategy to achieve this seems a bit vague so far?
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« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2021, 01:43:33 am »

In the absence of a billionaire chairman what exactly would be the criteria for a new chairman/board? There seems to be a growing groundswell of opinion that we need a change?
1. What are the priorities, stadium, squad, new management team or any combination of?


This one! Make this the priority and the rest could follow.

Attach an acre or two, to the stadium with planning for a premium hotel development with extensive facilities for residents and non-residents, not another bang average chain. Financing ( £30-50m) for such a project would be easy, just need the planning, then watch them come out of the woodwork.

Maximum profit from the smallest footprint. I'm in the wrong thread again!

Other than that tread water, times are too uncertain. Give Brady a decent budget, that's it.



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« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2021, 05:02:59 am »

This one! Make this the priority and the rest could follow.

Attach an acre or two, to the stadium with planning for a premium hotel development with extensive facilities for residents and non-residents, not another bang average chain. Financing ( £30-50m) for such a project would be easy, just need the planning, then watch them come out of the woodwork.

Maximum profit from the smallest footprint. I'm in the wrong thread again!

Other than that tread water, times are too uncertain. Give Brady a decent budget, that's it.




Financing for that project would be impossible unless you had more than enough collateral to cover the loan. If it wasn’t for confidentiality clauses I could probably fill an entire page with actual examples of failures in this area to emphasise the point? It is difficult for me to convey my incredulity at that suggestion, no offence? Attracting a 30-50 million investment would be a spectacular achievement. Having been in on a meeting between a financial institution and a client only yesterday it appears there is now the significant hurdle of proving commercial viability in the current climate, and it was hard enough before. You’d be better off asking for the money from the cat IMO, again no offence.
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« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2021, 06:16:41 am »

I agree with most of that. Except Edmondson, who is under contract at Leeds and will be loaned out again and score goals at whatever club he ends up at.

And your thoughts on the manager situation? Firstly does JB want the job next season. If offered it?

Edmondson is nowhere near good enough as a striker. He runs around a lot but has no instinct or finishing ability . Leeds will get rid and he might end up in midfield i think .
Regarding the manager - given the injuries and the inability to sign or get rid of anyone , JB has done the best he could do . If he had a goalkeeper to replace Mitchell with , he would have done . If he had a striker that could take a couple of shots at goal in a football match , he would play him.
The recruitment has been terrible and the wages we pay are not competitive in this league.
i personally think he will get offered the job and a different structure put in place on recruitment and development .
There is no direction given to the club .
it comes across in the budget , the stand , the way in which individuals get away with stuff and the remoteness of the board . We are going nowhere currently .
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« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2021, 08:14:26 am »

Aidy Boothroyd will be announced as the manager after the end of the season. Marc Richards as his assistant. Brady and Sammo going back to their previous academy roles but with added scouting responsibilities.
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« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2021, 08:44:00 am »

I agree with most of that. Except Edmondson, who is under contract at Leeds and will be loaned out again and score goals at whatever club he ends up at.

And your thoughts on the manager situation? Firstly does JB want the job next season. If offered it?
He will have to improve dramatically to score goals. The dubious tap in he scored was one of the only times he ventured into the six yard box. He has been clean through with the ball over the top a couple of times and missed both opportunities in spectacular fashion. He works hard and his hold up play is quite good but to me he completely lacks the instinct to be a consistant lower league goalscorer
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« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2021, 09:26:39 am »

He will have to improve dramatically to score goals. The dubious tap in he scored was one of the only times he ventured into the six yard box. He has been clean through with the ball over the top a couple of times and missed both opportunities in spectacular fashion. He works hard and his hold up play is quite good but to me he completely lacks the instinct to be a consistant lower league goalscorer

Correct .
Edmondson had to come good for us to stay up . All we were asking for was 5 goals but he hasn’t had 5 shots on target . Rose is too slow and AS is a total waste of space and time .
He didn’t score much at Aberdeen either .
Miller is clearly injury prone and Sheehan is the same . 2 wasted opportunities in a very small squad .
It would have been better to keep Ricky Holmes in hindsight or certainly get another player that can keep off the treatment table .
The whole season has been a succession of errors .
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« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2021, 09:53:58 am »

This one! Make this the priority and the rest could follow.

Attach an acre or two, to the stadium with planning for a premium hotel development with extensive facilities for residents and non-residents, not another bang average chain. Financing ( £30-50m) for such a project would be easy, just need the planning, then watch them come out of the woodwork.

Maximum profit from the smallest footprint. I'm in the wrong thread again!

Other than that tread water, times are too uncertain. Give Brady a decent budget, that's it.





Where does this acre or two come from? We all know that the club will get eff all out of anything KT/DB/CDNL make from their parcel of land and to build a hotel of any description at the moment  just does not make sense unless you know what is going to happen around you. There is nothing to stop CDNL building a transport hub or a retail park maing it an ulikely spot for a premium hotel.
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« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2021, 10:22:24 am »

Where does this acre or two come from? We all know that the club will get eff all out of anything KT/DB/CDNL make from their parcel of land and to build a hotel of any description at the moment  just does not make sense unless you know what is going to happen around you. There is nothing to stop CDNL building a transport hub or a retail park maing it an ulikely spot for a premium hotel.
Didn't KT & DB sign the CDNL land over to NTFC a while ago ?
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« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2021, 10:38:15 am »

Correct .
Edmondson had to come good for us to stay up . All we were asking for was 5 goals but he hasn’t had 5 shots on target . Rose is too slow and AS is a total waste of space and time .
He didn’t score much at Aberdeen either .
Miller is clearly injury prone and Sheehan is the same . 2 wasted opportunities in a very small squad .
It would have been better to keep Ricky Holmes in hindsight or certainly get another player that can keep off the treatment table .
The whole season has been a succession of errors .

When all your attackers (Rose, Hoskins, Bas, Edmondson, Miller & Marshall) all fail the team is screwed. It’s only Watson proving that it is possible to score goals in this team that we’ve not already been relegated.
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« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2021, 11:12:49 am »

This is completely shooting at the moon , but the stadium is in a prime retail location and the one thing that is booming is out of town retail centres .
Is there anything to stop selling the land and rebuilding from scratch elsewhere with a 4 sided stadium and corners that are filled in ?
No doubt there is a covenant but does anyone know for sure ?
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« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2021, 11:28:43 am »

BAS is the worst Cobblers player I have ever seen.
Edmundson is getting slagged off but he’s like Messi compared to BAS.
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« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2021, 11:35:35 am »

BAS is the worst Cobblers player I have ever seen.
Edmundson is getting slagged off but he’s like Messi compared to BAS.
They are both strikers who can’t score goals
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« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2021, 11:43:52 am »

They are both strikers who can’t score goals
Agreed, but one is a footballer who can hold the ball up and link play.
The other is a comedy act.
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« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2021, 12:53:12 pm »

This is completely shooting at the moon , but the stadium is in a prime retail location and the one thing that is booming is out of town retail centres .
Is there anything to stop selling the land and rebuilding from scratch elsewhere with a 4 sided stadium and corners that are filled in ?
No doubt there is a covenant but does anyone know for sure ?

I’m not sure if retail parks have had their day to an extent too. They are definitely busier than any town centre but how many do we need? The big ones seem to do well but there isn’t the land for another Rushden Lakes. Not sure if there is the demand either.
It’s online growth which is exponential, for obvious reasons in the past 12 months but it’s the way forward.
There is a plot a stones throw away sitting derelict where Homebase and Argos sat.
With the boom of development around the motorway junctions, I’m not even sure it’s prime land for warehousing anymore.
If they definitely can’t build houses there then the appeal of the land must be decreasing as each month goes by.
Maybe a precinct of restaurants, bars, casino and hotel may work. I think the leisure industry will do well over the coming years. Either way it’s going to take a healthy investment by any developer(s) to make it pay.
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« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2021, 13:04:16 pm »

Financing for that project would be impossible unless you had more than enough collateral to cover the loan. If it wasn’t for confidentiality clauses I could probably fill an entire page with actual examples of failures in this area to emphasise the point? It is difficult for me to convey my incredulity at that suggestion, no offence? Attracting a 30-50 million investment would be a spectacular achievement. Having been in on a meeting between a financial institution and a client only yesterday it appears there is now the significant hurdle of proving commercial viability in the current climate, and it was hard enough before. You’d be better off asking for the money from the cat IMO, again no offence.

I apologise if you spat out your tea Melly, but are you specifically referring to hotel development projects?

Everyone I know here is either working for, managing or developing hotels on every level. In the past 12 months I know of 2x USD25-30m quite average development projects which gained funding with a variety of options. For some in the sector this is the very time to forge ahead with the competition leveled slightly. Maybe we are skewed here in SE Asia by the Chinese market/demand but there are plenty of financiers out there if you have the land and the right project.

Sorry I don't wholeheartedly agree but please hold your incredulity and take it out on me in the redev.  Wink
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« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2021, 13:05:57 pm »

He will have to improve dramatically to score goals. The dubious tap in he scored was one of the only times he ventured into the six yard box. He has been clean through with the ball over the top a couple of times and missed both opportunities in spectacular fashion. He works hard and his hold up play is quite good but to me he completely lacks the instinct to be a consistant lower league goalscorer


We shall see. There's been many a striker that's struggled to then come good further down the line. I'll be in touch when he does  Wink

By the way he's 19 years old, plenty of time to come good and come good he will but sadly probably not with us.
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« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2021, 13:58:56 pm »

We shall see. There's been many a striker that's struggled to then come good further down the line. I'll be in touch when he does  Wink

By the way he's 19 years old, plenty of time to come good and come good he will but sadly probably not with us.

Dose of reality here regarding the fate NTFC players/managers who have done ok after leaving us. Take Henderson and Morrison for instance let alone Managers Page and Hasselbank! Even on this thread we have some 'daft' proposals in my opinion on how the Club should progress most of them inviting bankruptcy at a later stage. For example one pundit says finish the East Stand which will obviously effect our efforts in the transfer market. We have not got a multi millionaire chairman! The other thing is how on here we stigmatise players with one Hotel Ender criticising the Goal Keepers ad lib yet our two keepers are comparable to some of our recent past keepers for example Smith & Gleasure!  With opinions wildly diverse now is the time perhaps that the Trust might arrange a general meeting/ even Zoom type for all fans to discuss the best way forward not least to discuss the merits of the Brady Team. Brady has suggested a way forward for the Club both in direction on players and the Club Structure. If we can emerge with a clear proposal for a Manager and how the Club operates we will have achieved some progress.
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« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2021, 14:14:23 pm »

We shall see. There's been many a striker that's struggled to then come good further down the line. I'll be in touch when he does  Wink

By the way he's 19 years old, plenty of time to come good and come good he will but sadly probably not with us.

Whether he comes good or not he should have been nowhere near our first team right now. His record in Scotland should have shown where in his development he is and in our position and lack of goals he should not have been signed.
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