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« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2021, 19:14:17 pm » |
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Funniest thing since Steptoe & Son.
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« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2021, 19:23:55 pm » |
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The way I see it, this was inevitable. The world becomes a smaller place decade by decade and the football really is a global game. In fact its THE global game. There will no doubt be a world league one day.
The way to run this though is like the NFL. Sell franchises and let the owners base the clubs wherever they like. So you'd probably end up with a franchise based in most European (and eventually global) capitals. We're talking 20 to 30 new teams. Let the mercenaries go play for them and boot them out from international football. They can even have a draft system if they like... The NFL is a well run and popular franchised system. Why can't it work for football too?
This preserves existing national leagues and may just mean our home grown talent get more of a chance.
If people want to watch and pay for franchise football then great, let them. What any new league can't be allowed to do though is fast track by cherry picking existing clubs from national leagues. I've tried to think how a super league with existing clubs can be fair and just but I'm stumped. Of course they want a closed shop because they're greedy but fact is, it's nigh on impossible to run a super league as a tier above national leagues because trying to manage promotion and relegation across member nation's is nigh on impossible.
So a world super league? Bring it on, just dont destroy our club structure along the way
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« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2021, 19:31:19 pm » |
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The way I see it, this was inevitable. The world becomes a smaller place decade by decade and the football really is a global game. In fact its THE global game. There will no doubt be a world league one day.
The way to run this though is like the NFL. Sell franchises and let the owners base the clubs wherever they like. So you'd probably end up with a franchise based in most European (and eventually global) capitals. We're talking 20 to 30 new teams. Let the mercenaries go play for them and boot them out from international football. They can even have a draft system if they like... The NFL is a well run and popular franchised system. Why can't it work for football too?
This preserves existing national leagues and may just mean our home grown talent get more of a chance.
If people want to watch and pay for franchise football then great, let them. What any new league can't be allowed to do though is fast track by cherry picking existing clubs from national leagues. I've tried to think how a super league with existing clubs can be fair and just but I'm stumped. Of course they want a closed shop because they're greedy but fact is, it's nigh on impossible to run a super league as a tier above national leagues because trying to manage promotion and relegation across member nation's is nigh on impossible.
So a world super league? Bring it on, just dont destroy our club structure along the way
You've got it there. There is not a structure that would be acceptable to the average fan in the street and I think the owners of the English 6 and some of the other European teams underestimated the backlash from even their own fans. The NFL,MLB,NBA,NHL(I personally love baseball and also enjoy the NFL) work well as franchise sports, but remember their feeder clubs are the colleges and universities, they do not have an established club structure like football and don't forget this club structure is in place around The World. A world club super league? I sincerely doubt it, for one main reason and this is the reason I don't watch the premier league, the football in the lower tiers is a lot more entertaining that anything the premiershít can deliver. |
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« Reply #84 on: April 20, 2021, 19:53:31 pm » |
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The world becomes a smaller place decade by decade but the people get bigger and bigger
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« Reply #85 on: April 20, 2021, 20:04:00 pm » |
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Isn’t it amazing what a well organised and motivated response can achieve.
Well, definately motivated, but very easy to get your motivation across with the worlds' media watching. Hardly well organised though, a large rabble turning up to several grounds with banners and shouting. |
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« Reply #86 on: April 20, 2021, 21:41:42 pm » |
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A huge well done to all of those who in the face of greed and adversity stood up for the game...
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« Reply #87 on: April 20, 2021, 21:45:43 pm » |
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Many people talk about the failings of the American sporting system. However, I have always been impressed by the Collegiate sports, the money it generates, the crowds it attracts and the tv viewing figures. Definitely at a lower level to the main leagues but it’s success is spectacular? Kind of goes under the radar outside of the US, but it proves that the elite leagues don’t always have to be the only ones to have success?
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« Reply #88 on: April 20, 2021, 22:02:45 pm » |
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Well, definately motivated, but very easy to get your motivation across with the worlds' media watching. Hardly well organised though, a large rabble turning up to several grounds with banners and shouting.
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« Reply #89 on: April 20, 2021, 22:08:38 pm » |
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After the Champions League and Europa League dullness the super league organisers obviously thought they could create the ultimate in DULL.
If needs be I would rather watch the Cobblers in EFL 2 than watch the ESL.
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« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2021, 22:34:43 pm » |
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All six English clubs now out. Thought the Man United statement was very telling - that they'd listened 'to our fans, to the UK Government and to other stakeholders'. Of course they'd list their fans first from a PR point of view, but then to specifically mention the government, before clumping 'other stakeholders' together...that tells me the Yanks owning these clubs predicted the fans' backlash and the UEFA response, and just thought they could shrug it off and ride over it roughshod, but the idea that politicians of all stripes would actively get involved in trying to thwart them (Boris even threatening to legislate and remove foreign players' work permit rights for those clubs) has clearly caught their venture capitalist thinking totally off-guard. In America that'd never happen, they'd get free roam to do as they please. Hopefully this is the first step in clawing football back from these vultures.
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« Reply #91 on: April 21, 2021, 07:15:59 am » |
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Well they all wimped out quickly and scuttled off, tails between legs. However - will be surprised if that's the last of it.
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« Reply #92 on: April 21, 2021, 08:02:27 am » |
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Where does sporting merit or league placing come into it? Milton Keynes "bought" a league place, so these can buy a table at the Super Trough League.  This aint going away, the lids well and truly off the box now. Popcorn anyone? One of my better predictions. Thought it might take a little longer than 6 hours though!!  |
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« Reply #93 on: April 21, 2021, 09:53:15 am » |
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These things can gain momentum over a very short period of time, or can require time and effort. Either way, if you are determined enough and you can get the support on side, you will prevail.
Clearly due to the high profile nature of these clubs, they captured a huge amount of attention rapidly. But as many other supporters have shown previously, in the absence of attention, tenacity is the key.
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« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2021, 10:11:14 am » |
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Are You 'H' ?? but like the way that spell check is ignored  |
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Shoemender
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« Reply #95 on: April 21, 2021, 11:35:17 am » |
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Are You 'H' ?? Don't know what that means. Sorry I spelt a word wrong though. Just to add to my original reply though, I was just reacting to Hamsters thinly veiled but obvious dig at Cobblers' fans inability or motivation to organise any sort of meaningful protest against; Owners/council/lack of development etc etc. Happy with the eventual outcome of the super league fiasco though, but still think all clubs involved should not be let off lightly for treating fans, managers, players and everyone else with utter contempt. How about a 10 point or more deduction at the start of next season for all 6 clubs involved as any sort of fine would be meaningless. |
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« Reply #96 on: April 21, 2021, 11:53:14 am » |
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How about a 10 point or more deduction at the start of next season for all 6 clubs involved as any sort of fine would be meaningless.
Doesn’t that just hurt the fans, manager and players of the clubs who stood up against it. Maybe a minor inconvenience to the owners who might miss on a bit of money for that season, who knows this scare for uefa might just have improved the clubs hand in the long run too. |
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« Reply #97 on: April 21, 2021, 12:53:36 pm » |
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All 6 should be relegated to the Isthmian league. It will punish them whilst also providing an opportunity to learn what football means through the leagues. If that isn't possible they should be put in a league on their own to play each other eternally until time ends. Oh, hang on...
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Shoemender
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« Reply #98 on: April 21, 2021, 13:50:22 pm » |
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Doesn’t that just hurt the fans, manager and players of the clubs who stood up against it. Maybe a minor inconvenience to the owners who might miss on a bit of money for that season, who knows this scare for uefa might just have improved the clubs hand in the long run too.
As long as they've still got a team to support, that's the main thing.😁 |
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« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2021, 13:56:47 pm » |
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One of my better predictions. Thought it might take a little longer than 6 hours though!! Called it right there Drillers! Fair play. Somehow though I cant see them just forgetting the whole thing, Pandora's box is wide open and gaping! I guess we have to thank Brexit and Boris for maintaining the status quo. |
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