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« Reply #2720 on: October 12, 2021, 12:59:14 pm »

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« Reply #2721 on: October 12, 2021, 14:22:05 pm »

The transfers this year would have come from the top of Foyles head. You can't set up recruitment from scratch in a month, you set up networks and follow your targets for months to get a feel of them. There's no way there was a plan last year with the limits of beginning from zero, it would have been a case of, "Did you see anyone in Scotland who's out of contract and worth a gamble, we've got two months to assemble a team". Not people that have been highlighted by statisical analysis as the best bets.
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« Reply #2722 on: October 12, 2021, 14:54:07 pm »

I think my point is simple. That the under23's league thing is totally and utterly irrelevant when it comes to stats versus capability at EFL level!

Yep this.  I've watched quite a bit of Under 23s football over the years and you are spot on.  A totally different style of football played on mostly perfect pitches in an almost friendly like environment.  Don't get me wrong some really good footballers and great to watch if you like good passing football but nothing like anything players would face in most of the lower levels of the football league.   

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« Reply #2723 on: October 12, 2021, 16:04:42 pm »

The transfers this year would have come from the top of Foyles head. You can't set up recruitment from scratch in a month, you set up networks and follow your targets for months to get a feel of them. There's no way there was a plan last year with the limits of beginning from zero, it would have been a case of, "Did you see anyone in Scotland who's out of contract and worth a ****, we've got two months to assemble a team". Not people that have been highlighted by statisical analysis as the best bets.
No they were discussed by the committee 😉
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« Reply #2724 on: October 12, 2021, 16:09:12 pm »

Yep this.  I've watched quite a bit of Under 23s football over the years and you are spot on.  A totally different style of football played on mostly perfect pitches in an almost friendly like environment.  Don't get me wrong some really good footballers and great to watch if you like good passing football but nothing like anything players would face in most of the lower levels of the football league.   


Totally agree and then you go and get ginger pele Calum Morton.
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« Reply #2725 on: October 12, 2021, 16:12:45 pm »

The transfers this year would have come from the top of Foyles head. You can't set up recruitment from scratch in a month, you set up networks and follow your targets for months to get a feel of them. There's no way there was a plan last year with the limits of beginning from zero, it would have been a case of, "Did you see anyone in Scotland who's out of contract and worth a ****, we've got two months to assemble a team". Not people that have been highlighted by statisical analysis as the best bets.

We have to rely on the recruiting experts advice! But the selection of Kabamba needs some explanation as his goals in games played is a rudimentary guide. When his name appeared that was the source most on here did and then expressed doubt. If Swindon can put together a side why can’t we?
We ought to be asking Mr Foyle his justifications for signing Mr K?  
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« Reply #2726 on: October 12, 2021, 16:31:31 pm »

We have to rely on the recruiting experts advice! But the selection of Kabamba needs some explanation as his goals in games played is a rudimentary guide. When his name appeared that was the source most on here did and then expressed doubt. If Swindon can put together a side why can’t we?
We ought to be asking Mr Foyle his justifications for signing Mr K?  

I think someone should be asking for his justifications on a few others also!

It's a strange old world, I wonder if the manager and owner trust him enough in the next window after the horlicks he's made so far?

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« Reply #2727 on: October 12, 2021, 16:47:39 pm »

Totally agree and then you go and get ginger pele Calum Morton.

And that's the argument or proves the point, he had done next to nothing of significance prior to coming to us, we were lucky with him.
We haven't been as 'lucky' with the current ones.  Cool
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« Reply #2728 on: October 12, 2021, 17:30:40 pm »

I think someone should be asking for his justifications on a few others also!

It's a strange old world, I wonder if the manager and owner trust him enough in the next window after the horlicks he's made so far?


Perhaps so but you make it sound all of them are failures! So who are the few others?
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« Reply #2729 on: October 12, 2021, 17:42:00 pm »


I personally think our central midfield is non existent. We have several forwards capable of 10-15 goals with the right service, Harry Smith is currently proving he wasn't the issue last season. 

Totally disagree, in the 4-4-2 we play the 4 attacking players (2 wingers and 2 strikers) need to do much more in terms of creating and scoring goals, I think there is promise in Etete but other than that Hoskins has been the best of the bunch which says it all really.   
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« Reply #2730 on: October 12, 2021, 18:32:32 pm »

Perhaps so but you make it sound all of them are failures! So who are the few others?

I can’t vouch for his involvement in each recruit but failures thus far I would have:

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock

Whilst the likes of Lewis and Ktete haven’t really contributed much.

Haven’t seen enough of Nelson, but certainly didn’t look like a starter in what I’ve seen.
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« Reply #2731 on: October 12, 2021, 18:38:41 pm »

Totally disagree, in the 4-4-2 we play the 4 attacking players (2 wingers and 2 strikers) need to do much more in terms of creating and scoring goals, I think there is promise in Etete but other than that Hoskins has been the best of the bunch which says it all really.   

Two under performing wingers and nothing into feet from midfield.

I'm not saying the strikers are stand out, I just mean we should be able to score more from open play with that front line.
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« Reply #2732 on: October 12, 2021, 18:49:56 pm »

I can’t vouch for his involvement in each recruit but failures thus far I would have:

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock

Whilst the likes of Lewis and Ktete haven’t really contributed much.

Haven’t seen enough of Nelson, but certainly didn’t look like a starter in what I’ve seen.
Absolutely spot on, Sid Nelson is a conference player at best, Maxted is a rolly polly liability and as for Mitch “lazy bàstard” Pinnock the less said the better.
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« Reply #2733 on: October 12, 2021, 19:43:39 pm »

Absolutely spot on, Sid Nelson is a conference player at best, Maxted is a rolly polly liability and as for Mitch “lazy bàstard” Pinnock the less said the better.

Very harsh as always  Roll Eyes

Maxted is a perfectly adequate number 2. Nelson is out for the season, so how can you judge him on 2 or 3 games? Pinnock, I agree should be doing a little more.
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« Reply #2734 on: October 12, 2021, 20:52:33 pm »

Very harsh as always  Roll Eyes

Maxted is a perfectly adequate number 2. Nelson is out for the season, so how can you judge him on 2 or 3 games? Pinnock, I agree should be doing a little more.
It’s how I see it, take it you weren’t at the league cup game when Maxted was beaten from 30 yards?
Nelson is dreadful and nothing more than last resort back up.
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« Reply #2735 on: October 12, 2021, 21:02:19 pm »

It’s how I see it, take it you weren’t at the league cup game when Maxted was beaten from 30 yards?
Nelson is dreadful and nothing more than last resort back up.

Yes, I was at the game. Goalkeepers make mistakes on occasions and normally they result in goals, I should know as I kept goal at local level. Players make mistakes all the time but they mostly get away with them, that's the difference.
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« Reply #2736 on: October 12, 2021, 21:21:14 pm »

Yes, I was at the game. Goalkeepers make mistakes on occasions and normally they result in goals, I should know as I kept goal at local level. Players make mistakes all the time but they mostly get away with them, that's the difference.
I never seen you play but I reckon you’d have saved the one against the Wombles.
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« Reply #2737 on: October 13, 2021, 10:03:08 am »

I can’t vouch for his involvement in each recruit but failures thus far I would have:

Jonny Maxted – Goalkeeper – Exeter City
Sid Nelson – Centre Back – Tranmere Rovers
Dylan Connolly – Right Wing – St Mirren
Jordan Flores – Central Midfield – Hull City
Mitch Pinnock – Left Wing - Kilmarnock
Nicke Kabamba – Striker – Kilmarnock

Whilst the likes of Lewis and Ktete haven’t really contributed much.

Haven’t seen enough of Nelson, but certainly didn’t look like a starter in what I’ve seen.

Not much wrong with Maxted as a back up; certainly Roberts is number 1.
Nelson played well at Coventry
Bit early to prejudge Connolly
Flores seems to be a footballer
Pinnock early games ok
Kabamba poor
Lewis workmanlike, needs to improve on goals/games ratio
Ktete - only potential striker we have so must play?
Is your selection of above list of players based on personal preferences/prejudices, an indirect criticism of
JB and/or Chief Scout or just merely players played out of position to suit system. What happened to Revan?
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« Reply #2738 on: October 13, 2021, 10:17:46 am »

Not much wrong with Maxted as a back up; certainly Roberts is number 1.
Nelson played well at Coventry
Bit early to prejudge Connolly
Flores seems to be a footballer
Pinnock early games ok
Kabamba poor
Lewis workmanlike, needs to improve on goals/games ratio
Ktete - only potential striker we have so must play?
Is your selection of above list of players based on personal preferences/prejudices, an indirect criticism of
JB and/or Chief Scout or just merely players played out of position to suit system. What happened to Revan?

Very interesting, so bar Kabamba all other signings are okay.

I look forward to meeting you at the promotion party.
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« Reply #2739 on: October 13, 2021, 10:39:50 am »

Not much wrong with Maxted as a back up; certainly Roberts is number 1.
Nelson played well at Coventry
Bit early to prejudge Connolly
Flores seems to be a footballer
Pinnock early games ok
Kabamba poor
Lewis workmanlike, needs to improve on goals/games ratio
Ktete - only potential striker we have so must play?
Is your selection of above list of players based on personal preferences/prejudices, an indirect criticism of
JB and/or Chief Scout or just merely players played out of position to suit system. What happened to Revan?

I must admit it's strange that you call Kabamba out as the only 'poor' signing. Only a few weeks ago you were posting how dangerous he looked with the ball at his feet, and praising him for his ability to play a pass or two.

You also agreed with Back of the Nets comment post Port Vale:

"Kabamba - just superb. Probably my MOM. Canny, quick, surprisingly good feet for a big man. Will be a crowd favourite in no time."

On the flip side, you state Nelson cant be labelled as a poor signing because he played well at Coventry and its too early to judge others.

Very interesting, do you have an ulterior motive?

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