The Rise of Sam Hoskins

[itsme]

Who'd have thought it when he came on trial all those years ago

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

Level with BAYO league goals =11th

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

not quite sure where ntfc are getting there stats from, but if it's the grande old book like me, there is some adding up to do between southern league and football league appearances. I've double checked it a lot. Yes, don't mention how sad I am. But due to my calculations, (and yes I include the charity shield)

Hoskins is now level 5th overall appearances with Joe Kiernan and Billy Watson, not 7th?

And he is stand alone in 10th overall goals overtaking Don Martin.

Overtaken Kiernan in league appearances.
Overtaken Tommy Wells in league goals.

[DavCobb]

He could well pass Tommy Fowler for goals scored this season, although I don’t think he’ll catch him on appearances.
Unless some proper oldies remember Jack English, he could well end up scoring more goals than anyone alive today will have seen from a single player. 14 to pass Frank Large and then we’re going way, way back.
That first goal wouldn’t have gone in for him a couple of seasons ago.

[everbrite]

He could well pass Tommy Fowler for goals scored this season, although I don’t think he’ll catch him on appearances.
Unless some proper oldies remember Jack English, he could well end up scoring more goals than anyone alive today will have seen from a single player. 14 to pass Frank Large and then we’re going way, way back.
That first goal wouldn’t have gone in for him a couple of seasons ago.

Saw Jack English play when a very young man! Quick and direct. Alan Woan was good and scored a few! Saw Tommy Fowler play too, better than anything we have now unfortunately!

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

Overtaken Lloyd Davies to move into 6th in league appearances. 14 away from top 5.
Joint 8th with Fred Lessons and Ralph Hoten with 75 league goals. 7 away from Albert Dawes.

Joint 8th with Ralph Hoten and Tommy Wells in overall goals. 4 away from Tommy Fowler.

[Dan]

Overtaken Lloyd Davies to move into 6th in league appearances. 14 away from top 5.
Joint 8th with Fred Lessons and Ralph Hoten with 75 league goals. 7 away from Albert Dawes.

Joint 8th with Ralph Hoten and Tommy Wells in overall goals. 4 away from Tommy Fowler.

Could you list the top ten in order please for both overall attendances, and goals scored?

Really enjoy reading your stats on this thread 606.

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

Could you list the top ten in order please for both overall attendances, and goals scored?

Really enjoy reading your stats on this thread 606.

The pleasure really is all mine, as stated above, I believe a few of the ntfc stats on the website are mistaken.

Overall Appearances:
552 Tommy Fowler
449 Ian Sampson
412 Peter Gleasure
364 Edwin Freeman (including Charity Shield)
356 Sam Hoskins
352 Willie Watson
352 Joe Kiernan
331 Phil Chard
330 Lloyd Davies (including Charity Shield)
326 Len Hammond

Overall Goals:
143 Jack English
120 Ted Bowen
109 William Lockett
96 Frank Large
94 Albert Dawes
90 Albert Lewis
88 Tommy Fowler
84 Sam Hoskins
84 Ralph Hoten
84 Tommy Wells

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

At some point I might have to start a McWilliams thread. Currently level with Jason Crowe, James Hunt, Steve Brown and as we all remember, Mr James Frost... with 205 overall appearances.

[TPFKA Marvo]

The pleasure really is all mine, as stated above, I believe a few of the ntfc stats on the website are mistaken.

I've no doubt you are right there, these "official" sites are not to be trusted. For example if you go on Soccerbase right now (I know a lot of you utilise that one) and look up Jon Brady it states he has been manager of the Cobblers for 127 games when in reality its 146.

I recall when the club made a big thing about Abdul Osman making his 100th appearance when he'd already surpassed that mark and they did the same with a former manager but I can't remember which one.

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

I've no doubt you are right there, these "official" sites are not to be trusted. For example if you go on Soccerbase right now (I know a lot of you utilise that one) and look up Jon Brady it states he has been manager of the Cobblers for 127 games when in reality its 146.

I recall when the club made a big thing about Abdul Osman making his 100th appearance when he'd already surpassed that mark and they did the same with a former manager but I can't remember which one.

They also get to the point where they design a chocolate and blue kit based on the perpetuation of a mistake, and don't admit it...but I won't get into that haha.

[Madrid Cobbler]

I think yesterday's goal was testament to how much Sam has improved over the last couple of years. He didn't snatch at the ball when it was too high to shoot accurately, but calmly waited for it to come down and found just enough space before pulling the trigger and all that despite having at least two defenders close by. He's become a real class act. Thankfully, he's now 30, otherwise there's no way we'd be able to hold on to him.

[everbrite]

The pleasure really is all mine, as stated above, I believe a few of the ntfc stats on the website are mistaken.

Overall Appearances:
552 Tommy Fowler
449 Ian Sampson
412 Peter Gleasure
364 Edwin Freeman (including Charity Shield)
356 Sam Hoskins
352 Willie Watson
352 Joe Kiernan
331 Phil Chard
330 Lloyd Davies (including Charity Shield)
326 Len Hammond

Overall Goals:
143 Jack English
120 Ted Bowen
109 William Lockett
96 Frank Large
94 Albert Dawes
90 Albert Lewis
88 Tommy Fowler
84 Sam Hoskins
84 Ralph Hoten
84 Tommy Wells

Can’t you squeeze Cliff Holton in ?

[west stand oap]

Cliff Holton 50 goals in 62 appearances so although prolific nowhere near highest in either category.

[Observing]

Just another one impressed with Sammy Goals finish yesterday. Excellent work just before the goal and a pinpoint finish with his weaker foot. It took him a few years to get going but he’s a real player for us now.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

I don't mind saying I have a man crush on Sammy these days. I love it when he scores a goal. His little face just lights up the stadium.

[the grumpy old man]

What's interesting to me is that Sammy and Tommy Fowler are the only two who appear in both lists. I accept that some of the players were defenders and one was a goalie before anybody points it out.

[606 Parklands_Cobbler]

Overtaken Lloyd Davies to move into 6th in league appearances. 14 away from top 5.
Joint 8th with Fred Lessons and Ralph Hoten with 75 league goals. 7 away from Albert Dawes.

Joint 8th with Ralph Hoten and Tommy Wells in overall goals. 4 away from Tommy Fowler.

Just to add to this, due to the way numbers work, Hoskins has now overtaken everybody he was previously level with.

[everbrite]

Just another one impressed with Sammy Goals finish yesterday. Excellent work just before the goal and a pinpoint finish with his weaker foot. It took him a few years to get going but he’s a real player for us now.

I agree but reckon along with Bowie both could have had hat tricks. Personally I thought that CU where devoid of any class; as for the bloke who was sent off.......................real gem when you have just been yellow carded for a potential red card offence.

[Shoemaker]

Cliff Holton 50 goals in 62 appearances so although prolific nowhere near highest in either category.

I was just reading about cliff holton
What an amazing career he had……

I’m not massively into stats but I’d guess there isn’t another player with a higher goals to games career ratio who failed to win an England cap.(taking a minimum of a hundred appearances as a benchmark)