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The Rise of Sam Hoskins

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« Reply #120 on: November 07, 2021, 20:40:04 pm »

Even BAS could have stayed on his feet better than Super Sam yesterday!  Shocked Grin
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« Reply #121 on: November 14, 2021, 09:55:47 am »

Has now overtaken Willie O'Donnell and Bobby Barnes on overall goals, and John Clarke in appearances.
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« Reply #122 on: November 14, 2021, 11:28:16 am »

He also probably has more yellow cards than any other player who has played for the Cobblers, todays was totally avoidable. I think if a player gets a suspension he is therefore unavailable for selection and should be fined if it is because of yellows for yapping at the referee, time wasting and giving away unnecessary free kicks. There are times when it is "better to take one for the team" but very few of Sam's fall into that category.
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« Reply #123 on: November 14, 2021, 11:40:40 am »

He also probably has more yellow cards than any other player who has played for the Cobblers, todays was totally avoidable. I think if a player gets a suspension he is therefore unavailable for selection and should be fined if it is because of yellows for yapping at the referee, time wasting and giving away unnecessary free kicks. There are times when it is "better to take one for the team" but very few of Sam's fall into that category.

Nearly all his yellows are avoidable - JB needs to have a word with him, if he hasn't already, as he's an important member of our team.
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« Reply #124 on: November 14, 2021, 13:51:30 pm »

Yesterday was his seventh yellow of the season....6th in the league. Its a two game ban for 10 yellows on or before the 37th league game, so he's got to keep his nose cleaner over the next 21 games!!

Since joining us....

2015/16 season..... 42 games.... ONE yellow card
2016/17 season..... 31 games.... ONE yellow card
2017/18 season..... 29 games.... SIX yellow cards
2018/19 season..... 46 games.... TEN yellow cards
2019/20 season..... 47 games.... TEN yellow cards.... ONE red card
2020/21 season..... 49 games..... EIGHT yellow cards
2021/22 season..... 19 games..... SEVEN yellow cards

So that's 43 yellows in 263 games..... he's scored 45 goals for us in that time too!

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« Reply #125 on: November 14, 2021, 19:55:21 pm »

One would hope that we have a fines system for bookings. I never moan to much about getting booked for a mistimed tackle but bookings for dissent should result in a fine. I'm never one to criticize referee's  Wink but, when they've got the decision wrong they are not going to change their minds whatever a player says to them**

** This doesn't include Swindon Town who proved that it is sometimes worth getting in officials faces by getting the ref to change his mind after awarding a goal.
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« Reply #126 on: November 15, 2021, 11:47:21 am »

GPC - Very interesting stats on Sam's bookings. If you work out the percentage of bookings per each season they are this (not including the red).
2015-16 - 2.38% yellows per game
2016-17 - 3.22%
2017-18 - 20.69%
2018-19 - 21.74%
2019-20 - 21.27%
2020-21 - 16.32%
2021-22 - 36.84%
Assuming he played all 46 games he has gone from 1 yellow in the first 2 seasons then up to 9 and at his current rate if he plays all of the remaining 30 games he will get another 11 yellows and more suspensions.
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« Reply #127 on: November 15, 2021, 16:24:22 pm »

Blimey WSO.
Did you mean?
2015/16. A yellow every 42 games
2016/17  .........................31 games
2017/18  .........................4.83 games
2018/19  .........................4.6 games
2019/20  .........................4.7 games
2020/21  .........................6.13 games
2021/22  .........................2.71 games, so far.
If only we knew the minutes he played each season...

Turned into a right nasty little fcuker, hasn't he? 😁
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« Reply #128 on: November 15, 2021, 16:46:30 pm »

Give the man a break - yes some of the bookings are frustrating and seem unnecessary but take that competitive edge out of a player and you probably only get half the player (& half the goals)
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« Reply #129 on: November 15, 2021, 18:29:04 pm »

Peter - unfortunately it is not the "competitive edge" that is the reason for most of his bookings. Usually it is yapping at the referee or pulling back an opposing player by the arm or shirt when he is still midway inside his own half in a non threatening position.
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« Reply #130 on: November 15, 2021, 19:05:27 pm »

Peter - unfortunately it is not the "competitive edge" that is the reason for most of his bookings. Usually it is yapping at the referee or pulling back an opposing player by the arm or shirt when he is still midway inside his own half in a non threatening position.
Sadly WSO, you are quite right.
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« Reply #131 on: November 15, 2021, 23:14:04 pm »

Give the man a break - yes some of the bookings are frustrating and seem unnecessary but take that competitive edge out of a player and you probably only get half the player (& half the goals)

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« Reply #132 on: November 16, 2021, 09:13:41 am »

Evers - I absolutely have nothing against Sam as he always gives 100% and does a lot of tracking back and makes some vital challenges, although for the first goal on Saturday he failed to get off the ground to challenge their scorer at the far post (not sure where Revan was though).
His yellow cards are not for professional fouls (taking one for the team) but generally show a lack of professionalism and for a player in his position he gets far too many. He is not a tough tackling midfield player like McWilliams and you would expect our defenders to pick up more bookings than Sam. Yet our back 4 have a total of 9 yellows (McGowan 3, Horsfall 3, Guthrie 1 and Koiki 2) and Sam has almost this many himself.
The management need to have words with him as he is heading for further suspensions and the next will be 2 matches and then 3 matches. There is no excuse for getting yellow cards for comments to the referee, petty fouls, time wasting and not retreating 10 yards to allow a free kick to be taken.
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« Reply #133 on: November 16, 2021, 11:18:54 am »

Evers - I absolutely have nothing against Sam as he always gives 100% and does a lot of tracking back and makes some vital challenges, although for the first goal on Saturday he failed to get off the ground to challenge their scorer at the far post (not sure where Revan was though).
His yellow cards are not for professional fouls (taking one for the team) but generally show a lack of professionalism and for a player in his position he gets far too many. He is not a tough tackling midfield player like McWilliams and you would expect our defenders to pick up more bookings than Sam. Yet our back 4 have a total of 9 yellows (McGowan 3, Horsfall 3, Guthrie 1 and Koiki 2) and Sam has almost this many himself.
The management need to have words with him as he is heading for further suspensions and the next will be 2 matches and then 3 matches. There is no excuse for getting yellow cards for comments to the referee, petty fouls, time wasting and not retreating 10 yards to allow a free kick to be taken.
Correct. Just makes him look a big wuss.
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« Reply #134 on: November 16, 2021, 11:28:35 am »

Ain't it funny how some supporters find Sam hard to take to. Me included. I think he does his best. And he's not a bad player. But yet he still seems to annoy me.  Grin Grin
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« Reply #135 on: January 22, 2022, 16:55:00 pm »

...enters the top 20 of all time appearances overtaking Terry Branston, Billy Best, Thomas Thorpe and Derek Leck.
Also overtaken Tony Adcock, Ernie Cockle and Trevor Morley recently in overall goals.
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« Reply #136 on: January 22, 2022, 17:14:34 pm »

...enters the top 20 of all time appearances overtaking Terry Branston, Billy Best, Thomas Thorpe and Derek Leck.
Also overtaken Tony Adcock, Ernie Cockle and Trevor Morley recently in overall goals.

Played out of position today and looked ineffective at times!
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« Reply #137 on: January 22, 2022, 17:15:28 pm »

...enters the top 20 of all time appearances overtaking Terry Branston, Billy Best, Thomas Thorpe and Derek Leck.
Also overtaken Tony Adcock, Ernie Cockle and Trevor Morley recently in overall goals.

I know. Isn’t it a sad indictment of how poor we are these days…
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« Reply #138 on: January 22, 2022, 17:27:27 pm »

Now that sams had time to settle in could someone please tell me what position he plays?
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« Reply #139 on: January 22, 2022, 17:30:32 pm »

Wherever he is asked to play because he is so versatile.
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