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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2021, 22:30:03 pm »

You are missing the point but in any case he cleared off the line the other day which is as good as a tackle. If you are comparing Gilligan with Hoskins; I believe Hoskins has been subject of an offer, apparently from a Championship Club. The real point is that this is all to do honesty, loyalty and the ability to play where selected either in a game or actually selected. What has managerial success got to do with ambition without loyalty from your players. Please explain Bowens, Wilders and Carrs success without player loyalty?

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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2021, 22:41:28 pm »

If a player gets an offer from a championship club which would give him a big wage rise but might reduce his playing time and he turns it down for 4th division regular football! Really?

I’d take splinters and financially secure over regular hoofball any day. I’m sure Mark Bunn is gutted over his bank balance warming benches every day.
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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2021, 22:43:12 pm »

Forgot to say I saw him in Morrison’s earlier. I resisted a chorus of Super Sam in the aisles #wildintheaisles
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2021, 23:37:50 pm »

because he's fit and he's robust and he's a great servant.
Basically "well we know he'll be available if need be and with the crocks we usually sign, that's every week"
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2021, 07:11:58 am »

Forgot to say I saw him in Morrison’s earlier. I resisted a chorus of Super Sam in the aisles #wildintheaisles

I saw him in Homesense last weekend. He gets about, doesn't he?  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2021, 09:35:28 am »

Sam Hoskins is shît.
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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2021, 10:12:31 am »

I saw him in Homesense last weekend. He gets about, doesn't he?  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2021, 10:27:04 am »

Hoskins is a model professional: hardworking, robust, always willing to fill in anywhere to do a job for the team. His character is absolutely unimpeachable and he should be applauded and appreciated by our fanbase.

However, like a lot of 'utility players', the constant switching of position has probably been to the detriment of his development as a footballer. Ben Tozer was a similar victim of the 'utility curse' when he was here and Johnson tried to turn him into a defensive midfielder; in recent years, Michael Duff has allowed him a sustained period of development in his natural position of centre back at Cheltenham and he has now blossomed into a title-winning captain who has just moved clubs for a substantial six-figure fee.

I think the constant switching around has contributed to Hoskins' main weakness: his 'footballing brain' and lack of 'positional sense' - too often he shoots when he should pass, dallies on the ball too long, dribbles up a blind alley or chooses to pass to the wrong teammate.

If we continue to play him as a first choice winger in a 4-4-2 I would be concerned about our overall creativity. His crossing simply isn't good enough to play on the wing in a 4-4-2 IMO, and he doesn't get enough assists. He was brought to the club as a striker and he should return to this position IMO, particularly as Brady called him the most 'natural finisher at the club' (ahead of Rose and BAS) last season. As others have said, he's also good as one of the three behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1, where his capacity to carry the ball at pace can cause problems.

Ultimately, he's been a great servant and I'm glad he's in our squad. It's certainly not his fault that he's been played out of position so much. Managers love him due to his workrate, pressing ability and physical fitness: it's no surprise that they've constantly found a way to shoehorn him in somewhere, but this has often been at the expense of our overall tactical coherence - hence the 'Hoskins dilemma'.  However, if Brady is serious about producing 'bums off seat' football and developing us into a team ultimately capable of sustaining league one status then he needs to resolve the 'Hoskins dilemma' once and for all.


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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2021, 10:36:26 am »

Hoskins is a model professional: hardworking, robust, always willing to fill in anywhere to do a job for the team. His character is absolutely unimpeachable and he should be applauded and appreciated by our fanbase.

However, like a lot of 'utility players', the constant switching of position has probably been to the detriment of his development as a footballer. Ben Tozer was a similar victim of the 'utility curse' when he was here and Johnson tried to turn him into a defensive midfielder; in recent years, Michael Duff has allowed him a sustained period of development in his natural position of centre back at Cheltenham and he has now blossomed into a title-winning captain who has just moved clubs for a substantial six-figure fee.

I think the constant switching around has contributed to Hoskins' main weakness: his 'footballing brain' and lack of 'positional sense' - too often he shoots when he should pass, dallies on the ball too long, dribbles up a blind alley or chooses to pass to the wrong teammate.

If we continue to play him as a first choice winger in a 4-4-2 I would be concerned about our overall creativity. His crossing simply isn't good enough to play on the wing in a 4-4-2 IMO, and he doesn't get enough assists. He was brought to the club as a striker and he should return to this position IMO, particularly as Brady called him the most 'natural finisher at the club' (ahead of Rose and BAS) last season. As others have said, he's also good as one of the three behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1, where his capacity to carry the ball at pace can cause problems.

Ultimately, he's been a great servant and I'm glad he's in our squad. It's certainly not his fault that he's been played out of position so much. Managers love him due to his workrate, pressing ability and physical fitness: it's no surprise that they've constantly found a way to shoehorn him in somewhere, but this has often been at the expense of our overall tactical coherence - hence the 'Hoskins dilemma'.  However, if Brady is serious about producing 'bums off seat' football and developing us into a team ultimately capable of sustaining league one status then he needs to resolve the 'Hoskins dilemma' once and for all.



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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2021, 17:21:27 pm »

A goal and an assist today  Grin Evil
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anybody that knows the slightest inclination about the game of football knows that O'Toole should be in the team. We really do have some idiotic fans.
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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2021, 18:49:20 pm »

Sam did well today and got his reward. I haven't always been his greatest fan - but have always acknowledged his effort and workrate. He seems to have come on over the last couple of seasons and is now a decent player at this level. Great burst of speed and cross for the first goal, and in the right place for the second. Can't ask much more.
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2021, 18:50:51 pm »

I think on todays performance most teams in our division would be pleased to have Sam in their team.

I see another of our under-rated players, Harry Smith, scored another 2 headers today. He showed he was capable of getting on the end of a cross but we rarely provided him with any. His 2 goals today were against Newport County whose manager said " I know how good Harry Smith is I tried all summer to sign him".
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2021, 19:04:30 pm »

I like Sammy and always have. I agree with the frustrating failings mentioned here in terms of passing, crossing and decision-making, because he doesn't do these well consistently enough. I also agree that sometimes it feels that he's shoehorned into the side even when he doesn't fit easily into the  formation.

BUT I think he has other key qualities, apart from the obvious ones like pace, work-rate and versatility. A huge proportion of the chances we create involve him, because he makes excellent runs and gets into good positions and does sometimes pass and cross well. He also controls the ball much better than most players at this level. I know that a lot of chances get wasted (often by Sammy himself!), but many wouldn't even be chances without him having done something that other players don't do.

He's a good player at League 2 level in my opinion. If we want to really compete at L1 and above, that's a different story. Anyway, 250 appearances is no mean feat, so congratulations to him and I hope he's a key part of another promotion winning team this season!
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2021, 19:43:56 pm »


He's a good player at League 2 level in my opinion. If we want to really compete at L1 and above, that's a different story. Anyway, 250 appearances is no mean feat, so congratulations to him and I hope he's a key part of another promotion winning team this season!

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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2021, 20:10:27 pm »

Spot on…
And then can we bin him off?
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2021, 20:20:12 pm »

There is no place for him in an attacking dynamic team. He couldn't score in a harem and his final ball is, well, bollocks.
Goal and an assist today!
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2021, 21:27:35 pm »

he's not black or gay so leave him alone.

umm I hope the way you've phrased that is wrong...cause it doesn't come across well...
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anybody that knows the slightest inclination about the game of football knows that O'Toole should be in the team. We really do have some idiotic fans.
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2021, 21:37:07 pm »

Sammy is a player we've rather taken for granted, criticising his failings rather than crediting him for his contribution.
Without him the whole team would lack energy. He never hides even when things aren't going well for him and we are lucky to have him.
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2021, 22:52:14 pm »

other than wilder, who used him sparingly, as you say yourself - how many left because a better offer came in and how many were sacked because of their poor judgement / selections?

Sparingly? In the famous 2015/16 season he started 20 games with 22 as sub. This compares with fellow strikers Rico's 32 starts with 5 as sub and Marquis 13 starts and 2 as sub.
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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2021, 22:58:45 pm »

I don't think this club can progress until we say cheerio to Sam Hoskins. We have relied on him for goodness knows how long. Yes he runs around like a blue-arsed fly but quality is not his middle name. He has become a 'go-to' by many managers because you cannot deny his work-rate and they can always defend a poor performance by highlighting his effort. There is no place for him in an attacking dynamic team. He couldn't score in a harem and his final ball is, well, bollocks. We won't move on till he moves on. He is like a poor Rod Stewart tribute, but do you think he's sexy?

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