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the grumpy old man
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For me Sammy is just about our most important player at the moment and I am glad we have him. I know he can be frustrating at times but so can all players, even Kevin De Bruyne must have an off day. His goals may include penalties but they still have to be scored and his record is very good, just one miss in 12, which sadly was at Wimbledon in the last minute in a game we lost 1 - 0 when we were in League 1.
Harry Kane also takes penalties and no one asks how many of his goals are from the penalty spot. If anyone knows the answer it might be interesting to know.
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Manwork04
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For me Sammy is just about our most important player at the moment and I am glad we have him. I know he can be frustrating at times but so can all players, even Kevin De Bruyne must have an off day. His goals may include penalties but they still have to be scored and his record is very good, just one miss in 12, which sadly was at Wimbledon in the last minute in a game we lost 1 - 0 when we were in League 1.
Harry Kane also takes penalties and no one asks how many of his goals are from the penalty spot. If anyone knows the answer it might be interesting to know.
Your not comparing our little scamp with Harry Kane are you?
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Rule Britannia
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Deepcut Cobbler
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For me Sammy is just about our most important player at the moment and I am glad we have him. I know he can be frustrating at times but so can all players, even Kevin De Bruyne must have an off day. His goals may include penalties but they still have to be scored and his record is very good, just one miss in 12, which sadly was at Wimbledon in the last minute in a game we lost 1 - 0 when we were in League 1.
Harry Kane also takes penalties and no one asks how many of his goals are from the penalty spot. If anyone knows the answer it might be interesting to know.
Similarly with Wayne Rooney and how many penalties. I seem to remember that the number he had taken for England was very few and similar to Sir Bobby.
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
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the grumpy old man
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Your not comparing our little scamp with Harry Kane are you?
Sammy for England,? well not quite.
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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You've ruined it now for Frank Lampard. There's me thinking his goal scoring record was incredible for a midfielder. However a quick google search shows, 43 of his premier league goals were penalties. Take them off of the total....bog standard player!! Whilst I can’t agree with a comparison between the greatest midfielder ever to grace a football pitch and our Sam, I absolutely agree that the penalties have to be a factor.
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Thought it would be more than that. So we've only won 3 penalties in the last 48 league games?
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It doesn’t really mean much unless it’s stacked up against games played. Or even minutes.
In addition to that, I would also take into account penalties.
For some reason it makes my day when Hoskins scores; it always seems to be against bitter adversity. Maybe its because he is now our leading scorer, that is over the last couple of seasons or more. Some of his goals are memorable, v Colchester, Burton (a), Grimsby and even Oldham some 2/3 seasons ago with an instant volley. For me we should be grateful that he has stayed with us when many others just clear off at the first rustle of £notes.
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the grumpy old man
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For some reason it makes my day when Hoskins scores; it always seems to be against bitter adversity. Maybe its because he is now our leading scorer, that is over the last couple of seasons or more. Some of his goals are memorable, v Colchester, Burton (a), Grimsby and even Oldham some 2/3 seasons ago with an instant volley. For me we should be grateful that he has stayed with us when many others just clear off at the first rustle of £notes.
Don't forget the blinder he scored at Tranmere.
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i don’t know about currently but last season Hoskins was considered easily the best finisher at the club .
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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For some reason it makes my day when Hoskins scores; it always seems to be against bitter adversity. Maybe its because he is now our leading scorer, that is over the last couple of seasons or more. Some of his goals are memorable, v Colchester, Burton (a), Grimsby and even Oldham some 2/3 seasons ago with an instant volley. For me we should be grateful that he has stayed with us when many others just clear off at the first rustle of £notes.
I’m not sure why you quoted me to make your point. It makes my day when any of our players score.
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I’m not sure why you quoted me to make your point.
It makes my day when any of our players score.
I’m fairly sure if you wiped the memory banks of Hoskins as our player and he was playing for another team with the same personal stats, people would be saying he is just the sort of players we need - fickle fans!
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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I’m fairly sure if you wiped the memory banks of Hoskins as our player and he was playing for another team with the same personal stats, people would be saying he is just the sort of players we need - fickle fans!
Couldn’t agree more. I’m with you on the historical baggage that some carry regarding him. The only thing I questioned was how much his goal stats stand up given the clear advantage he has over any other player in the side. But there is no doubt he is more than worthy of his place in the side at this level. Another thing that seems to have improved, is his ability to finish well.
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Clarity
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Whilst I appreciate your stunning repartee, it is absolutely relevant to look at penalties and time on the pitch.
As Margo says, he scores roughly one goal every five games. On the surface that looks ok. But if you take away the penalties (and I’m not sure of how many are penalties) it’s probably quite a poor return. It gives any player a huge advantage over his team mates if he takes the penalties, so it should be absolutely part of any calculations.
Taking penalties in front of an expectant crowd… easy right?! It’s a testament to his bottle allied to technique. Most people on here would s*** themselves in the same scenario
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Manwork04
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Taking penalties in front of an expectant crowd… easy right?! It’s a testament to his bottle allied to technique. Most people on here would **** themselves in the same scenario
I was talking once to the physiologist for the German national team and couldn’t help but ask why they were so good at penalties, he told me that he had coached into them to squeeze their fist five times as they walked up to take the penalty, this would release all the tension and pressure they were experiencing and they would always score. Seemed to work.
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Rule Britannia
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Taking penalties in front of an expectant crowd… easy right?! It’s a testament to his bottle allied to technique. Most people on here would **** themselves in the same scenario
I went to watch Basle against Brondby last night and it went to penalties. They were being taken right in front of the a very expectant home end full of hostile Basle Ultras. The first two Brondby penalty takers cracked and completely messed up their chances. Whilst it might not be the same atmosphere wherever Super Sam took his last away penalty, I would have thought that top division players appearing in European competition should be able to hold it together better than a fourth division player. Perhaps Brondby will be making a move on him in the next couple of weeks.
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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Taking penalties in front of an expectant crowd… easy right?
Yeah….. Because that’s exactly what I said
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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I was talking once to the physiologist for the German national team and couldn’t help but ask why they were so good at penalties, he told me that he had coached into them to squeeze their fist five times as they walked up to take the penalty, this would release all the tension and pressure they were experiencing and they would always score. Seemed to work.
Alan Shearer said that he was taught to think which way he would run to celebrate the goal he was about to score. Taking his mind completely off the actual process.
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CobblerForever
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Regarding taking penalties;
1. Choose the GK's weaker side (his left if he's right footed etc). 2. Aim to strike the ball cleanly about a foot inside the post preferably low (high is too risky). 3. Concentrate on what you're doing not externalities.
Practice, practice, practice.
These days;
1. The penalty areas retain their condition most seasons. 2. The footballs retain their condition for the whole game (not like the old leather balls).
Both the above remove potential hazards.
Sam is first class.
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Substitute
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whack the bugger as hard as you can in the oposite direction to what the goalie is going.
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