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« Reply #120 on: September 22, 2021, 15:07:19 pm »

I was told that the Trust didn't build the 25 questions zoom call with KT because it was unprofessional.
How come zoom is ok to discuss stuff with anti trusters?

#consistency

The Trust declined the zoom invite because for the issues being discussed it was considered the wrong forum, more so as the club wished it to be open to all Trust members and potentially all fans if they wanted to. This would be club led and administered. Not the correct forum or environment.
If the questions had been answered first, then this type of forum may have been appropriate to discuss the questions and answers together.
The Trust Board decided that written answers were required or at least desirable for their written questions. Get thingsí on the recordí so to speak.

As for 1-2-1 meetings with other individuals who have raised concerns about Trust statments, actions or the like then this was considered to be appropriate forum. 

So actually nothing to do with ĎunprofessionalíÖ..
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« Reply #121 on: September 22, 2021, 15:56:02 pm »

I was told that the Trust didn't build the 25 questions zoom call with KT because it was unprofessional.
How come zoom is ok to discuss stuff with anti trusters?

#consiste

OMG really, you are sooooooooooooo desperate. Do you get a towel sale from KT for every anti-Trust post.  Evil Evil

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« Reply #122 on: September 22, 2021, 15:56:37 pm »

The Trust declined the zoom invite because for the issues being discussed it was considered the wrong forum, more so as the club wished it to be open to all Trust members and potentially all fans if they wanted to. This would be club led and administered. Not the correct forum or environment.
If the questions had been answered first, then this type of forum may have been appropriate to discuss the questions and answers together.
The Trust Board decided that written answers were required or at least desirable for their written questions. Get thingsí on the recordí so to speak.

As for 1-2-1 meetings with other individuals who have raised concerns about Trust statments, actions or the like then this was considered to be appropriate forum. 

So actually nothing to do with ĎunprofessionalíÖ..

Playing devil's advocate a little bit...

Why would the wider membership and/or fanbase hearing the answers first-hand have been a bad thing? Why does it matter who sets up or chairs the meeting, as long as they're not being obstructive? Would it have been better (and easier to defend) if the Trust took the meeting and just requested written answers/clarifications afterwards, where gaps needed to be plugged?

A Zoom meeting could have been recorded and minuted, to get things on the record.
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« Reply #123 on: September 22, 2021, 16:02:49 pm »

Grin I knew someone would misrepresent that.

was it misrepresented though Woody?

He said it, yes he was talking about talking to fans instead but it is an insight into how he really thinks about fans in the boardroom.

He didn't talk about anything in any detail, nothing about what he wants the role to achieve or focus on, not one thing of detail, except, they are still to be a fan, not to act, dress or look like a Director. He was at real pains to get that across.
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« Reply #124 on: September 22, 2021, 16:06:52 pm »

What are the roles and responsibilities?  Will they be at ALL board meetings and discussions?  What is their remit?  Who do they answer to? 

Without commenting on the sentiment of the rest of the post... these are very fair questions.

I hope the successful candidate feels empowered to turn the role down if they can't 'scope out' a role & remit that is acceptable to them.
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« Reply #125 on: September 22, 2021, 17:07:06 pm »

was it misrepresented though Woody?

He said it, yes he was talking about talking to fans instead but it is an insight into how he really thinks about fans in the boardroom.

He didn't talk about anything in any detail, nothing about what he wants the role to achieve or focus on, not one thing of detail, except, they are still to be a fan, not to act, dress or look like a Director. He was at real pains to get that across.
Yes it was.
Its clear he wants the fan to remain a fan and not become a 'suit'. How can the representative reflect the terraces if they are quaffing champagne and eating prawn sandwiches.
I also think fans would be very quick to say they had become KT's puppet if they suddenly stop wearing their shirt, scarf etc and having a pie and pint before the game and turned up in a suit with a club tie for a sit down meal
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« Reply #126 on: September 22, 2021, 17:53:55 pm »

Yes it was.
Its clear he wants the fan to remain a fan and not become a 'suit'. How can the representative reflect the terraces if they are quaffing champagne and eating prawn sandwiches.
I also think fans would be very quick to say they had become KT's puppet if they suddenly stop wearing their shirt, scarf etc and having a pie and pint before the game and turned up in a suit with a club tie for a sit down meal

Totally agree.
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« Reply #127 on: September 22, 2021, 17:59:21 pm »

I'm looking  at this with great interest, looking forward to seeing which  candidates are put forward,  will look at them all and decide from there.
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« Reply #128 on: September 22, 2021, 18:09:47 pm »

Yes it was.
Its clear he wants the fan to remain a fan and not become a 'suit'. How can the representative reflect the terraces if they are quaffing champagne and eating prawn sandwiches.
I also think fans would be very quick to say they had become KT's puppet if they suddenly stop wearing their shirt, scarf etc and having a pie and pint before the game and turned up in a suit with a club tie for a sit down meal
Coincidentally my first 2 questions were whoís doing the catering and is there an extensive wine list. All this talk of pies and pints is putting me off.
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« Reply #129 on: September 22, 2021, 18:26:15 pm »

I'm looking  at this with great interest, looking forward to seeing which  candidates are put forward,  will look at them all and decide from there.

If any?
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« Reply #130 on: September 22, 2021, 19:28:54 pm »

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« Reply #131 on: September 22, 2021, 19:35:33 pm »

If any?

I kept my powder dry for a few pages of the thread but frankly the position is a bit of a joke - one supporter representative, - what does that really mean? - not an awful lot I suspect in terms of any meaningful say in the running of the club. Not taking sides here but KT in all the years of ownership has never taken any real interest in fan involvement (which of course is his right) and to me a very clear and embarrassing unsubtle attempt to outflank the trust. I personally think the whole thing is pathetic and best ignored.
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« Reply #132 on: September 22, 2021, 19:38:11 pm »

Iíll list a handful of reasons why Iím going to be applying for this.

1. NTFC has been a massive part of my life and Iíve always wanted the opportunity to properly give something back. This is finally that opportunity.
2. I am not one who will simply act as a yes man. Iíll challenge when required / when I believe is needed because I want the best for this football club.
3. The current board need to be pressured positively to ensure that promises are met regarding the East Stand and surrounding areas. I was happy to challenge Kelvin on the day he displayed the plans and will be happy to do that again.
4. This needs to be represented by someone who attends a lot of games.
5. Iím thick skinned and thatís definitely going to be needed.

Iíll not be sad if Iím not voted and expect people to vote for the person who best represents them. Excited about the chance to though.
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« Reply #133 on: September 22, 2021, 20:41:28 pm »

Iíll list a handful of reasons why Iím going to be applying for this.

1. NTFC has been a massive part of my life and Iíve always wanted the opportunity to properly give something back. This is finally that opportunity.
2. I am not one who will simply act as a yes man. Iíll challenge when required / when I believe is needed because I want the best for this football club.
3. The current board need to be pressured positively to ensure that promises are met regarding the East Stand and surrounding areas. I was happy to challenge Kelvin on the day he displayed the plans and will be happy to do that again.
4. This needs to be represented by someone who attends a lot of games.
5. Iím thick skinned and thatís definitely going to be needed.

Iíll not be sad if Iím not voted and expect people to vote for the person who best represents them. Excited about the chance to though.

Fair play Dan - good luck but itís going to be really tough to be effective.
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« Reply #134 on: September 22, 2021, 20:41:38 pm »

Iíll list a handful of reasons why Iím going to be applying for this.

1. NTFC has been a massive part of my life and Iíve always wanted the opportunity to properly give something back. This is finally that opportunity.
2. I am not one who will simply act as a yes man. Iíll challenge when required / when I believe is needed because I want the best for this football club.
3. The current board need to be pressured positively to ensure that promises are met regarding the East Stand and surrounding areas. I was happy to challenge Kelvin on the day he displayed the plans and will be happy to do that again.
4. This needs to be represented by someone who attends a lot of games.
5. Iím thick skinned and thatís definitely going to be needed.

Iíll not be sad if Iím not voted and expect people to vote for the person who best represents them. Excited about the chance to though.
Are you a member of the Trust Dan and if not would you consider joining if that gives you a better chance of success (not saying that it will)
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« Reply #135 on: September 22, 2021, 20:50:01 pm »

Are you a member of the Trust Dan and if not would you consider joining if that gives you a better chance of success (not saying that it will)
And so the predicted attempt to ask candidates to join the trust beginsÖ.

Il vote for anyone not involved in the trust past or present.

New broom needed imo.
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« Reply #136 on: September 22, 2021, 21:02:23 pm »

And so the predicted attempt to ask candidates to join the trust beginsÖ.

Il vote for anyone not involved in the trust past or present.

New broom needed imo.
Matters not, the influence the supporter elected to the board will have is so negligible itís ridiculous.
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« Reply #137 on: September 22, 2021, 21:08:30 pm »

I am not a member though did attend the save the cobblers meetings in 2015. I wouldnít join at this stage. Iíd want to win based on the quality of the application rather than anything else personally.

In reply to Cobblers watch, I have little doubt that it would be incredibly hard. But Iím very persistent 😂👌🏽
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« Reply #138 on: September 22, 2021, 21:10:17 pm »

I kept my powder dry for a few pages of the thread but frankly the position is a bit of a joke - one supporter representative, - what does that really mean? - not an awful lot I suspect in terms of any meaningful say in the running of the club. Not taking sides here but KT in all the years of ownership has never taken any real interest in fan involvement (which of course is his right) and to me a very clear and embarrassing unsubtle attempt to outflank the trust. I personally think the whole thing is pathetic and best ignored.

Totally agree CW.

There are certainly a lot more questions than answers. Looking to outflank the Trust with WNC i suspect.

I could go on but you have said it perfectly. Thanks
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« Reply #139 on: September 22, 2021, 21:12:15 pm »

so Dan, what would the first thing you would ask KT for on behalf of the supporters?
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