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« Reply #160 on: October 09, 2021, 19:59:22 pm »

agreed. I just want a plan and have the convictions to stick with it.

really would like to know why JB came out with bums off seats, attacking football, youth team players etc and then we play like we do.  What changed?

I would be happy to be 14 or even lower if we are playing our youth and trying to outscore the opposition rather than battling safety 1st football



I would like plan A with conviction, then Plan B with conviction, if things arent going right.

I am reading a lot of people saying its to early to jump ship with Brady, low budget etc

Yet I have not seen anyone hear give an explanation as to what Brady is actually trying to do with this team.

Sutton last week was a low point and  fact he has gone 4-2-3-1 is something, but he's got to stick with it now.
The next step for me would be drop Lewis and have Pollock with Pinnock and Connolly with McWilliams and Sowerby still in the pivot.

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« Reply #161 on: October 09, 2021, 20:06:25 pm »

It does irritate me a bit on here sometimes... preseason there's all this talk about building for the future, giving Brady time and not having high expectations this year, we start well and as soon as we hit the first sticky patch people start baying for blood.

No it's not working as well as we'd like at the moment, is the answer really to sack another manager...?

Exactly.

Gutted we lost and without doubt our attacking play is not good enough but in reality for any team that's the hardest thing to get right both in recruitment and on the pitch.

I'll say it again it's about patience this year.  You only have to look at the likes of Koiki for a prime example of why I say that.  Some people weeks ago were singing his praises and complaining we hadn't signed him on a longer contract.  A few weeks later and a couple of poor defensive performances and you are seeing that maybe he's not quite ready but we have little option but to play him every game.

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« Reply #162 on: October 09, 2021, 20:43:30 pm »

agreed. I just want a plan and have the convictions to stick with it.

really would like to know why JB came out with bums off seats, attacking football, youth team players etc and then we play like we do.  What changed?

I would be happy to be 14 or even lower if we are playing our youth and trying to outscore the opposition rather than battling safety 1st football



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« Reply #163 on: October 09, 2021, 21:42:39 pm »

Same old budget nonsense, do we really believe that the likes of 2nd placed Harrogate, 7th placed Sutton (game in hand), 8th placed Hartlepool and 11th placed Barrow all have budgets that dwarf ours by so much that we are unable to complete with these teams.
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« Reply #164 on: October 09, 2021, 21:55:53 pm »

Same old budget nonsense, do we really believe that the likes of 2nd placed Harrogate, 7th placed Sutton (game in hand), 8th placed Hartlepool and 11th placed Barrow all have budgets that dwarf ours by so much that we are unable to complete with these teams.

And Morecambe last season and no doubt their budget in league one this season.
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« Reply #165 on: October 09, 2021, 21:58:20 pm »

And Morecambe last season and no doubt their budget in league one this season.

L Jones signed for Cambridge for less than we were offering him
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« Reply #166 on: October 09, 2021, 22:11:41 pm »

L Jones signed for Cambridge for less than we were offering him

Yes he did. The argument about the budget is strange because as I said earlier Colin Calderwood must be on decent money, as is Danny Rose and probably Joseph Mills, Sam Hoskins, Liam Roberts, Jack Sowerby and Jon Guthrie to name a few. Boot & Shoe is very protective of Jon Brady and this is why he brings up this budget nonsense on a regular basis.
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« Reply #167 on: October 09, 2021, 22:15:49 pm »

Connolly cost us today with his National League North performance!
Etete selflessly passed it on to him in the 87th for a tap in...idiot didn't know where he was!
Kabamba and BAS getting more time would have been more productive!

Applause today for Roberts and the 200 travelling contingent!
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« Reply #168 on: October 09, 2021, 22:29:01 pm »

Yes he did. The argument about the budget is strange because as I said earlier Colin Calderwood must be on decent money, as is Danny Rose and probably Joseph Mills, Sam Hoskins, Liam Roberts, Jack Sowerby and Jon Guthrie to name a few. Boot & Shoe is very protective of Jon Brady and this is why he brings up this budget nonsense on a regular basis.

The budget is pretty irrelevant, within reason, at our level. Many more factors dictate league position
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« Reply #169 on: October 09, 2021, 22:44:44 pm »

Connolly cost us today with his National League North performance!
Etete selflessly passed it on to him in the 87th for a tap in...idiot didn't know where he was!
Kabamba and BAS getting more time would have been more productive!

Applause today for Roberts and the 200 travelling contingent!

Applause too for the Hartlepool fans.....they backed their team for almost the entire 90 minutes, the drummer kept the atmosphere going, felt like there were a lot more than 5000 in there at times.

Maybe relegation to the National League galvanised their fans.....I remembered the same sort of support from Lincoln fans the season they came back up.
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« Reply #170 on: October 10, 2021, 09:34:27 am »

Applause too for the Hartlepool fans.....they backed their team for almost the entire 90 minutes, the drummer kept the atmosphere going, felt like there were a lot more than 5000 in there at times.

Maybe relegation to the National League galvanised their fans.....I remembered the same sort of support from Lincoln fans the season they came back up.

Despite the fact that this is probably the case, Iíd still prefer to maintain our football league status. Relegation to the National League could easily be the worst thing that could happen. Look how many ex league teams are struggling to get back.
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« Reply #171 on: October 10, 2021, 09:35:20 am »

Applause too for the Hartlepool fans.....they backed their team for almost the entire 90 minutes, the drummer kept the atmosphere going, felt like there were a lot more than 5000 in there at times.

Maybe relegation to the National League galvanised their fans.....I remembered the same sort of support from Lincoln fans the season they came back up.
Disagree totally about the aymosphere. The drummer (always pathetic - we don't need one!) took away any spontaneity away, they didn't produce one original song, anything spontaneous that mirrored the game - even a' C'mon Cobblers...' reflects the passion and mood of the fans!
Most of the time just a murmuring unintelligible noise, that most Pool fans only half heartedly joined in with!
When it became clear that they were going to win in the dying minutes - the rest of the sheep around the ground joined in!
Don't give me drum stuff please! Nil points!

Been to Hartlepool I think around seven times over the years. It's always been a s***hole! It hasn't changed - can't quite believe the hole that it is and the dross that live there. My last ever trip to the hole!
Durham and Newcastle brilliant by comparison...including the groups of dolled ip lasses travelling to/from Durham, York and Newcastle every week!  Wink
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« Reply #172 on: October 10, 2021, 09:38:48 am »

I thought we played pretty well with many reasons for optimism.

Start to take our chances and we should be there or thereabouts.
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« Reply #173 on: October 10, 2021, 10:01:48 am »

I thought we played pretty well with many reasons for optimism.

Start to take our chances and we should be there or thereabouts.
Iím with you, theyíve the best home record in the division and I thought we did ok. That header for their first goal was sensational, we wonít have to defend against many like that this season. Their keeper also pulled off a few decent saves. On another day we could have won that at a canter. Still disappointing though.
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« Reply #174 on: October 10, 2021, 11:09:18 am »

Very disappointing to watch that performance on iFillow. I maybe wrong but they seemed to want it more; hence their two splendidly well taken goals. I canít remember us scoring with that quality. We now appear to be on a slippery slope of avoidable losses! Our much vaunted defence should have been capable of drawing that game. I too am at a loss to understand JBís selection policy if there is one. The signing of Kabamba and Lewis and perhaps Connolly now appears bereft of any meaningful justification for signing them. I agree with comments on that old red herring of budget as if Barrow and Harrogate have superior budgets Roll Eyes. If I was KT, he should launch an investigation into how the process works as it clearly isnít working well. 
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« Reply #175 on: October 10, 2021, 11:17:52 am »

Very disappointing to watch that performance on iFillow. I maybe wrong but they seemed to want it more; hence their two splendidly well taken goals. I canít remember us scoring with that quality. We now appear to be on a slippery slope of avoidable losses! Our much vaunted defence should have been capable of drawing that game. I too am at a loss to understand JBís selection policy if there is one. The signing of Kabamba and Lewis and perhaps Connolly now appears bereft of any meaningful justification for signing them. I agree with comments on that old red herring of budget as if Barrow and Harrogate have superior budgets Roll Eyes. If I was KT, he should launch an investigation into how the process works as it clearly isnít working well. 

Nice synopsis there evers although I'm afraid we will have to dismiss your comments..

As you were not there.
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« Reply #176 on: October 10, 2021, 12:37:31 pm »

Nice synopsis there evers although I'm afraid we will have to dismiss your comments..

As you were not there.

As were you! You are very outspoken for somebody who rarely attends. What you donít get is Ďfansí are allowed an opinion. Trouble is most of yours are brainless!
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« Reply #177 on: October 10, 2021, 12:42:56 pm »

You deserved a point at least yesterday.
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« Reply #178 on: October 10, 2021, 12:52:30 pm »

Evers - I think you have got him sussed.
At Salford we were within minutes of going second in the league, now 2 games later we are 14th. The wheels have come off the bus and are not going round and round. Also we have started conceding 2 goals a game, the second goal yesterday was a repeat of the second at Salford which Koiki was blamed for for. However I would not put too much blame on him for their winner yesterday as the rest of the team were pulled over to where the cross was coming from and he was left with 2 men to mark.
Anyway on to Mansfield next week who have not won any of their last 11 games, what could possibly go wrong.
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« Reply #179 on: October 10, 2021, 12:56:14 pm »

Watched the game on i-player...

I thought we played some superb stuff, the performance itself warranted 3 points and with some ease.

Unfortunately though our forwards continue to demonstrate a total ineptness when it comes to either their final ball or their finishing...the Ete/Connolly moment 10 seconds before they scored their winner kind of wrapped up the whole of this season so far in one moment.

We can only hope that they are all 'doing a Parkin' or 'doing a Rico first spell here' and after several months things will suddenly click and they start scoring regularly. If they don't then it will be a bloody long run through to January. At that point we would surely need to offload at least two of the four and bring in better option/s. That said, it never seems to happen for us in that window and we'd probably end up with another Edmunson or Sinclair!

Ill keep the faith for now. But Im rapidly losing motivation for this season because our football in the final third of the pitch just isn't good enough and hasn't been now for 15 games league and cup. 15 goals, one goal a game = a big struggle!
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