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« Reply #740 on: January 27, 2022, 17:11:37 pm »

Tahvon Campbell has signed for Rochdale

A local move then....Woking to Rochdale on a two and a half year deal!! Rumoured to be a six figure transfer fee..... Rochdale....bloody Rochdale!
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« Reply #741 on: January 27, 2022, 17:17:55 pm »

In fairness they’ve just sold a striker and are reinvesting the money just like we didn’t when selling chuks to villa.
There in lies the problem.
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« Reply #742 on: January 27, 2022, 17:24:35 pm »

A local move then....Woking to Rochdale on a two and a half year deal!! Rumoured to be a six figure transfer fee..... Rochdale....bloody Rochdale!

Am I missing something?

A 25 year old who has scored 6 league goals in approx 60 appereances and he commands 100K+

Mind you Chesterfield did ok with their signing when league clubs were baulking at the £250K fee and £4K per week wages.
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« Reply #743 on: January 27, 2022, 18:20:44 pm »

Am I missing something?

A 25 year old who has scored 6 league goals in approx 60 appereances and he commands 100K+

Mind you Chesterfield did ok with their signing when league clubs were baulking at the £250K fee and £4K per week wages.

14 goals in 22 games for Woking this season.....I suppose thats what commands the price rather than what he managed a few years ago.
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« Reply #744 on: January 27, 2022, 18:48:08 pm »

With so little time left in this transfer window it has so far not been a good one. Etete and Kabamba have gone and the inexperienced loan striker is out for 6 weeks so we are effectively 2 strikers down. We have an inexperienced loan centre back who will not see much game time unless we revert to a back 3 or Horsfall or Guthrie get injured.
Kanu should get plenty of game time but I don't think JB sees him as an out and out striker as he says "he can play across the front line as a 7,10 or 11". So we desperately need at least 1 striker.
If Koiki leaves we also need another left back as Mills is not fit and with his injury record we cannot rely on him playing the majority of games left in the season.
There have been some rather silly comments about our recruiting as thou we don't start to think about it until Jan. 1st. JB has regularly said they are constantly looking at players to strengthen the squad but it seems some of our targets have preferred to go elsewhere, it would be interesting to know if the reason is simply budget constraints or other reasons and also who we have missed out on signing.
Tottenham recalling Etete has throw a major spanner in the works so when they come in with a last minute multi million bid for super Sam lets tell them to sod off.
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« Reply #745 on: January 27, 2022, 18:53:30 pm »

John Akinde to Colchester - undisclosed!
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« Reply #746 on: January 27, 2022, 18:54:52 pm »

Buying a conference player is always a risk, particularly as a January 'get-a-promotion-over-the-line' kind of move. Billy Waters is only two goals behind Campbell with 11 goals and we all know how he performed in the league. Campbell sounds like a similar winger/forward to Kanu so it will be interesting to see who gets the best value.

Brady's latest interview sounds a lot like 'expectation management'. However, I agree
with him about signing players for the medium term rather than panicking and getting lumbered.

A case in point is Akinde, a fairly limited but nevertheless effective target man who I've advocated several times on here as an option. He's just signed for Col U on a two and half year deal at the age of 32 - the deal strikes me as way too long, and that may be what put us off (if we were ever remotely interested).

I keep going back to CW's 2015/16 team. We lost Rico to injury and brought in Collins and Marquis, both on loan. Short term January deals aren't necessarily bad as long as you bring in 'oven ready' performers who can make an instant impact.

Hylton for me remains the ideal signing. I would also certainly take Bogle rather than nothing.
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« Reply #747 on: January 27, 2022, 18:57:08 pm »

Unfortunately we are fishing in a very different pond to Rochdale.

It’s a real shame the board lack the ambition to get out of this division because we aren’t that far away from being a real decent side, absolutely solid at the back and one of the best back 5’s I’ve seen in many years at the cobblers we just miss that bit of extra quality up front.

Gutted to see other clubs kick on while we have stood still. I feel sorry for JB having to trot out the same old bollox ‘We’ve been piped at the last minute’ on players etc…

I won’t be renewing next season unless something changes with the boards true ambition.  

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« Reply #748 on: January 27, 2022, 19:02:12 pm »

We had a very good one! Until we learned the hard way that Tottenham Hotspur FC have no integrity what so ever.  Angry

All our planning then had to change, our short lists were probably for players in different positions, not a target man.

I don't subscribe to this assessment of Tottenham at all. This is the gam ble with loan players, players who are not actually yours!! I assume we signed the deal and we knew it had a break clause in it..... its the risk you take. We benefitted from this when we had Kioso, we lost out when we had Etete, swings and roundabouts. There seem to have been many loan recalls this January, its becoming more of the norm, especially with the windows and the fact you can't have one month, 2 month or whatever deals any more....they have to be half or a full season. That's just the way it is...all clubs know that.

There could be any number of reasons he was recalled....maybe he wasn't happy, maybe Tottenham weren't happy, maybe it was the injury, maybe he actually developed quicker with us than Spurs thought he would and therefore they are pushing him on to the next level half a season earlier than they thought they would have to......
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« Reply #749 on: January 27, 2022, 19:20:37 pm »

Looking at some of the strikers who have changed clubs in this window I'm struggling to find any that I would have wanted. Tahvon Campbell is probably having his 1 good season after doing very little before and Woking fans do not appear to be upset with him leaving, stating that in some games he appears uninterested in some games and urging their club to take the money as his contract runs out at the end of the season.
Elliott has gone to Bradford - No. Akinde to Colchester - No. Palmer to Wrexham - No. Signing Bogle or Hylton with their injury records would be taking a huge punt and we could find ourselves quickly in the same situation as Zimba.
In an earlier post I suggested asking Ipswich about either Tyreese Simpson or Joe Pigott as neither are likely to feature in their team much and either could do a job for us.
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« Reply #750 on: January 27, 2022, 19:20:56 pm »

I've always been ambivalent about Spurs, then in the space of a few days they recalled Etete and I got stuck on a train with an obnoxious, pìssed up septagenarian group of their fans all the way from Euston to Bletchley. Relentless foul language and homophobic songs, even when asked to be mindful of their language in front of a load of kids. Utter ****s, the lot of them!

The two together has put me right off Spurs!
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« Reply #751 on: January 27, 2022, 19:35:10 pm »

Is it time for a bit of transparency from the club?

A hands up job, JB has been caught on his heels with Etete going and KT doesn’t have a pot to **** in.

Calderwood and Carrs ‘contact book’ don’t return their calls.

Time to set the expectations and gear the dedicated fans up for a mixture of Hoskins, Rose and BAS firing blanks up top till the summer?
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« Reply #752 on: January 27, 2022, 19:36:48 pm »

Looking at some of the strikers who have changed clubs in this window I'm struggling to find any that I would have wanted. Tahvon Campbell is probably having his 1 good season after doing very little before and Woking fans do not appear to be upset with him leaving, stating that in some games he appears uninterested in some games and urging their club to take the money as his contract runs out at the end of the season.
Elliott has gone to Bradford - No. Akinde to Colchester - No. Palmer to Wrexham - No. Signing Bogle or Hylton with their injury records would be taking a huge punt and we could find ourselves quickly in the same situation as Zimba.
In an earlier post I suggested asking Ipswich about either Tyreese Simpson or Joe Pigott as neither are likely to feature in their team much and either could do a job for us.

A quick scan of the news suggests Simpson could go back to Swindon for the second half of the season...he only got recalled due to a "contractual issue" which is being worked through this week. As for Pigott, mixed news as the new Ipswich manager seems to indicate he will have a part to play in the second half of the season, "gives us another option" etc.....
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« Reply #753 on: January 27, 2022, 19:41:10 pm »

Koiki latest...

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/ali-koikis-situation-at-northampton-explained-as-sunderland-look-for-another-full-back-following-denver-humes-move-to-portsmouth-3543042

As for any quality incomings, it seems KT/DB have changed their tune regarding any January investment, as KT categorically said they would be investing this month on the IACTM podcast recently...

Something has obviously happened regarding the revised red book land valuation from the original figure they thought they were getting it for...double, tripled or quadrupled in value perhaps so that means no proper investment in the playing squad this month (or ever!) I'm afraid...

As I said before, they basically said on the same podcast, that we're probably better off in L2 anyway due to the increased L1 wage demands.

Least we won't go down...this season!
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« Reply #754 on: January 27, 2022, 19:50:19 pm »

Koiki latest...

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/ali-koikis-situation-at-northampton-explained-as-sunderland-look-for-another-full-back-following-denver-humes-move-to-portsmouth-3543042

As for any quality incomings, it seems KT/DB have changed their tune regarding any January investment, as they were all for it on the IACTM pod recently...something has obviously happened regarding the revised red book land valuation from the original figure they thought they were getting it for...double, tripled or quadrupled in value perhaps so that means no proper investment in the playing squad this month I'm afraid...

As I said before, they basically said on the same podcast, that we're probably better off in L2 anyway due to the increased L1 wage demands.

Least we won't go down...this season!
That’s encouraging to hear.
We should remain a league two club because we haven’t the finance to compete in league one.

That mantra will change come pre season when they want ST money.
The thing is fans will listen to their soundbytes but the reality will stay the same.

I’m actually proud to stick to my guns because I didn’t like the way the club was being run years ago (as is my right) and stayed away.
Nothing that’s gone on since then has made me change my mind in fact it’s only reinforced it.
It seems that others are now raising the same concerns (as is their right)
If what you post is correct then it is very depressing and who wants to pay money to watch a club that don’t actually want to progress?
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« Reply #755 on: January 27, 2022, 20:10:12 pm »

That’s encouraging to hear.
We should remain a league two club because we haven’t the finance to compete in league one.

That mantra will change come pre season when they want ST money.
The thing is fans will listen to their soundbytes but the reality will stay the same.

I’m actually proud to stick to my guns because I didn’t like the way the club was being run years ago (as is my right) and stayed away.
Nothing that’s gone on since then has made me change my mind in fact it’s only reinforced it.
It seems that others are now raising the same concerns (as is their right)
If what you post is correct then it is very depressing and who wants to pay money to watch a club that don’t actually want to progress?


I think you will find there are still a great majority who are still "just happy to have a club to support"......therefore they will buy their season tickets again, just like they always do, and as is their right.

The bigger question is what happens next? If the valuation has increased and there is no land deal then what? Does the owner pull the plug...if so does he write off his losses or does he asset strip the club? Does the chairman walk away onto his next project?

Uncertain times as we (NTFC) have been funded to the hilt on the premise of a land deal....all the eggs in one basket. What happens if........?

PS...still time to make a signing or two.....a statement of intent.....anything?
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« Reply #756 on: January 27, 2022, 20:16:50 pm »

This L1/L2 debate is pure conjecture, "basically said" not actually said, "probably better off in L2" did not say we are better off in L2. It all strikes me as desperate people, who dislike the board, posting to try to convince us that the club has no ambition. Maybe they have or maybe they haven't but I doubt if they have said anything to anybody who posts on here of any significance.
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« Reply #757 on: January 27, 2022, 20:17:23 pm »


I think you will find there are still a great majority who are still "just happy to have a club to support"......therefore they will buy their season tickets again, just like they always do, and as is their right.

The bigger question is what happens next? If the valuation has increased and there is no land deal then what? Does the owner pull the plug...if so does he write off his losses or does he asset strip the club? Does the chairman walk away onto his next project?

Uncertain times as we (NTFC) have been funded to the hilt on the premise of a land deal....all the eggs in one basket. What happens if........?

PS...still time to make a signing or two.....a statement of intent.....anything?
That’s a good post
I agree that many people will still buy season tickets but it would dishearten me to buy one knowing that it’s best that the club don’t go up…..
That just doesn’t sit right with me.
Just my opinion.
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« Reply #758 on: January 27, 2022, 20:19:28 pm »

This L1/L2 debate is pure conjecture, "basically said" not actually said, "probably better off in L2" did not say we are better off in L2. It all strikes me as desperate people, who dislike the board, posting to try to convince us that the club has no ambition. Maybe they have or maybe they haven't but I doubt if they have said anything to anybody who posts on here of any significance.
I haven’t listened to the podcast so I’m just reacting to someone who has.
Anyway actions speak louder than words and we’ve not long to find out….
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« Reply #759 on: January 27, 2022, 20:55:43 pm »

This L1/L2 debate is pure conjecture, "basically said" not actually said, "probably better off in L2" did not say we are better off in L2. It all strikes me as desperate people, who dislike the board, posting to try to convince us that the club has no ambition. Maybe they have or maybe they haven't but I doubt if they have said anything to anybody who posts on here of any significance.

Listen to the podcast, read between the lines & make your own assumption...

BTW anyone had their log in from the club to the exclusive "proud to be loyal supporter section" for giving up their refund from previous season tickets?...Thought not!
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