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« Reply #2500 on: November 06, 2024, 11:43:06 am »

Peter,

It's an exercise in ensuring you get a redundancy payment with a tax free element when you get replaced. Lammy looks after his own interests first, last and at every point in between. Farage is doing the right thing for the UK and no doubt himself. MPs do have colleagues to do the local stuff. He has been threatened too often not to be mindful of this.
Your wasting your time, Peter only has one eye and it’s his left one 😉.
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« Reply #2501 on: November 06, 2024, 12:55:38 pm »

I don't pay much attention to American plotics apart from main election time but how can they vote in a convicted criminal again

And yet the voters of the UK elected a party that is still run by a war criminal.
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« Reply #2502 on: November 06, 2024, 15:13:41 pm »

Your wasting your time, Peter only has one eye and it’s his left one 😉.

What part of the post did you miss when I was agreeing with Lammy being both hypocritical and duplicitous.

I've told you before - if you are going to label people, better to read twice before posting.

Re Farage in the US you presumably missed earlier where I criticised Labour MPs for canvassing for Harris - both cases IMO  letting down their constituents.

(Oh and I get the bit about Farage's security but that does not excuse his poor Westminster attendance record which is mirroring that of when he was an MEP)
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« Reply #2503 on: November 06, 2024, 15:24:03 pm »

What part of the post did you miss when I was agreeing with Lammy being both hypocritical and duplicitous.

I've told you before - if you are going to label people, better to read twice before posting.

Re Farage in the US you presumably missed earlier where I criticised Labour MPs for canvassing for Harris - both cases IMO  letting down their constituents.

(Oh and I get the bit about Farage's security but that does not excuse his poor Westminster attendance record which is mirroring that of when he was an MEP)
Farage is a force to be reckoned with in politics, don’t underestimate him, I don’t agree with all his politics but the fact he’s pretty much single handed taken the UK out of Europe and built a party in a number of weeks that got more votes than the dreadful Lib Dem’s.

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« Reply #2504 on: November 06, 2024, 15:25:00 pm »

And yet the voters of the UK elected a party that is still run by a war criminal.

I still don't get the rationale behind Blair's decision here and if (big if) it was based on honestly believing bad information and of course the UK being a puppet to the wishes of US and Israel* his subsequent lack of contrition that finished him for me

* For those who unconditionally support Netanyahu & also think Blair is a war criminal - go look and see who also lied about WMD and was one of the strongest voices to go into Iraq.
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« Reply #2505 on: November 06, 2024, 15:36:52 pm »

Farage is a force to be reckoned with in politics, don’t underestimate him, I don’t agree with all his politics but the fact he’s pretty much single handed taken the UK out of Europe and built a party in a number of weeks that got more votes than the dreadful Lib Dem’s.



I don't underestimate him - he has achieved a lot, however the real test for any populist is actually delivering when in power - and whilst they always diss the establishment from opposition but when they actually have power it is often a different story.

Again I agree - he was the force that took us out of Europe - a formidable politician and great public speaker to garner public opinion - but sans Europe he had no involvement in the organising or delivering the work of legislation required - again classic populist policy.
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« Reply #2506 on: November 06, 2024, 15:51:19 pm »

I don't underestimate him - he has achieved a lot, however the real test for any populist is actually delivering when in power - and whilst they always diss the establishment from opposition but when they actually have power it is often a different story.

Again I agree - he was the force that took us out of Europe - a formidable politician and great public speaker to garner public opinion - but sans Europe he had no involvement in the organising or delivering the work of legislation required - again classic populist policy.

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« Reply #2507 on: November 06, 2024, 17:24:15 pm »

I still don't get the rationale behind Blair's decision here and if (big if) it was based on honestly believing bad information and of course the UK being a puppet to the wishes of US and Israel* his subsequent lack of contrition that finished him for me

* For those who unconditionally support Netanyahu & also think Blair is a war criminal - go look and see who also lied about WMD and was one of the strongest voices to go into Iraq.

Blair knew that there were no WMDs and it was a lie set up by Bush and the Zionists to invade and for Jnr to finish off what Snr started. The whole Gulf War was perpetuated on the lie the Iraq was stealing Kuwaiti oil when in fact it was the other way round.
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« Reply #2508 on: November 06, 2024, 18:00:56 pm »

I wonder which countries these so called stars and celebrities will go to as the leave the US no Trump has won.
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« Reply #2509 on: November 06, 2024, 19:15:33 pm »

Despite the left wing media’s filthy rhetoric……..Trump wins a crushing victory ✌️

Congratulations Comrade Manny, at last you have managed to back a winning side.

But the rest of the world could probably do with a bit of reassurance now that it isn't just about to all go tïts up.
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« Reply #2510 on: November 07, 2024, 07:59:09 am »

Congratulations Comrade Manny, at last you have managed to back a winning side.

But the rest of the world could probably do with a bit of reassurance now that it isn't just about to all go tïts up.
Without meaning to be smug, I backed Trump to win years ago, socialism is a disaster, it seems like a good idea but is open to corruption and completely kills all entrepreneurs in their tracks and most importantly the economy.
High taxes, big state, media intervention never works.
The current UK government foreign secretary thought it would be a good idea to call Trump a nazi, and tweet that shît comes out of his mouth.
This government are now trying to crawl into the back passage of the EU, who actually hates us, meanwhile we now have a US president who is half British and actually likes us, we insult, you can make this stuff up, Labour are so incompetent it’s embarrassing.
#Labour scum.

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« Reply #2511 on: November 07, 2024, 09:40:59 am »

Without meaning to be smug, I backed Trump to win years ago, socialism is a disaster, it seems like a good idea but is open to corruption and completely kills all entrepreneurs in their tracks and most importantly the economy.
High taxes, big state, media intervention never works.
The current UK government foreign secretary thought it would be a good idea to call Trump a nazi, and tweet that shît comes out of his mouth.
This government are now trying to crawl into the back passage of the EU, who actually hates us, meanwhile we now have a US president who is half British and actually likes us, we insult, you can make this stuff up, Labour are so incompetent it’s embarrassing you'd be forgiven for thinking Boris and his mates had got back in! Wink




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« Reply #2512 on: November 07, 2024, 11:28:31 am »

#fakenews  Wink
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« Reply #2513 on: November 07, 2024, 12:10:06 pm »

Wink Grin
There’s a job for you in the BBC news department with editing like that, did make me chuckle though 😉
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« Reply #2514 on: November 07, 2024, 12:17:09 pm »

I fully expect Mike Amesbury MP to receive a minimum of a 5 year custodial sentence when he is found guilty, this will then trigger a by election, result could be very interesting 🤨
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« Reply #2515 on: November 07, 2024, 18:28:29 pm »

I would like to congratulate Mr Putin on his sensational victory in US election.
I see that an anti-vaxxer is likely to get a prominent position in the Health department in the US. That will certainly please all the 'covid was a hoax' brigade.
I also note that pharmacists are losing money due to the broken medications finding system. Is there ANYTHING the Tories didn't drove into the dust? At least the grown-ups are now in charge. #Tory chaos
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« Reply #2516 on: November 07, 2024, 18:54:42 pm »

I fully expect Mike Amesbury MP to receive a minimum of a 5 year custodial sentence when he is found guilty, this will then trigger a by election, result could be very interesting 🤨

Nah, he didn’t send nasty tweets or social media messages from behind his keyboard, at worst he’ll get a suspended sentence and have to do a few hours community payback.
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« Reply #2517 on: November 08, 2024, 16:49:54 pm »

I would like to congratulate Mr Putin on his sensational victory in US election.
I see that an anti-vaxxer is likely to get a prominent position in the Health department in the US. That will certainly please all the 'covid was a hoax' brigade.
I also note that pharmacists are losing money due to the broken medications finding system. Is there ANYTHING the Tories didn't drove into the dust? At least the grown-ups are now in charge. #Tory chaos
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« Reply #2518 on: November 08, 2024, 16:55:28 pm »

Nah, he didn’t send nasty tweets or social media messages from behind his keyboard, at worst he’ll get a suspended sentence and have to do a few hours community payback.
You know what mate, that wouldn’t surprise me, in other news I see that Iraq has lowered the age of sexual consent to 9 years old!
Seriously how are these XXXX’s supposed to integrate into western society.
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« Reply #2519 on: November 08, 2024, 17:05:38 pm »

You know what mate, that wouldn’t surprise me, in other news I see that Iraq has lowered the age of sexual consent to 9 years old!
Seriously how are these XXXX’s supposed to integrate into western society.

It’s disgusting but please attribute the blame to where it specifically lies rather than the country as a whole  - there are millions of Iraqi‘s who agree it’s a disgusting proposal.
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