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« Reply #2520 on: November 08, 2024, 18:12:49 pm »

It’s disgusting but please attribute the blame to where it specifically lies rather than the country as a whole  - there are millions of Iraqi‘s who agree it’s a disgusting proposal.
Have you done a poll, mind you they’re not very good are they😂 seriously how do you know “millions of Iraq’s” think it’s disgusting?
Are you the envoy of the masses?
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« Reply #2521 on: November 08, 2024, 18:30:27 pm »

It’s disgusting but please attribute the blame to where it specifically lies rather than the country as a whole  - there are millions of Iraqi‘s who agree it’s a disgusting proposal.

I they objected that much you would hear about it.
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« Reply #2522 on: November 08, 2024, 18:38:55 pm »

I think maybe the mods should take this post down?

We have very thorough litigation laws in this land. It will be Manny who will have to defend his perspective, should he need to. We're are moderators, not lawyers. Thankfully. You are welcome to challenge his views.
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« Reply #2523 on: November 08, 2024, 20:13:21 pm »

Have you done a poll, mind you they’re not very good are they😂 seriously how do you know “millions of Iraq’s” think it’s disgusting?
Are you the envoy of the masses?


No, but I happen to believe more people are good and decent, than evil but have your way then - all Iraqi‘s believe this proposal is good idea and everyone of that nationality should all be judged and condemned on that basis.
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« Reply #2524 on: November 08, 2024, 20:20:27 pm »

He's playing you again Peter.......... Just remember he thinks dinosaurs are a hoax  Wink
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« Reply #2525 on: November 08, 2024, 20:24:40 pm »

I they objected that much you would hear about it.

Sadly those who object suffer huge problems
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« Reply #2526 on: November 08, 2024, 22:21:14 pm »

Sadly those who object suffer huge problems
That’s their culture and it’s totally at 180° from western Christian culture, they don’t and can’t integrate.
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« Reply #2527 on: November 09, 2024, 05:59:05 am »

That’s their culture and it’s totally at 180° from western Christian culture, they don’t and can’t integrate.

Depending on your definition of they it’s either a racist or ignorant statement - when you spread your bigotry on here at least try to focus on the actual perpetrators of wrong doing rather than a nation as a whole.
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« Reply #2528 on: November 09, 2024, 08:25:14 am »

Depending on your definition of they it’s either a racist or ignorant statement - when you spread your bigotry on here at least try to focus on the actual perpetrators of wrong doing rather than a nation as a whole.
That old chestnut, I’m a racist because I have called out a country for making it legal to have sex with 9 year olds, what are you talking about perpetrators, it was a decision by the government, not an independent group as you allege.
It’s a clash of cultures, like Elon I predict a civil war in the future.
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« Reply #2529 on: November 09, 2024, 09:52:59 am »

That old chestnut, I’m a racist because I have called out a country for making it legal to have sex with 9 year olds, what are you talking about perpetrators, it was a decision by the government, not an independent group as you allege.
It’s a clash of cultures, like Elon I predict a civil war in the future.


OK I'll make this simple - firstly you didn't call out a country you called out the people from that country - now hopefully you don't mean it but messages like that when read by certain individuals on broader social media outlets will deem that  all Iraqi's agree with the wicked proposal - and that can result in widespread discrimination & disruption as we continue to see.

Of course I don't know numbers but with respect its just possible I have more experience than you of working and living in the Middle East across a wide spectrum of society and I know the vast majority of educated Iraqi's are appalled at this proposal.

I emphasise educated because the fundamentalist fractions rely on a principle of not educating individuals as key aspect of their power.

I doubt if you or I will agree on anything and whilst no one hopefully takes any of our  comments too seriously Social Media is a powerful weapon and I think we should all choose our words carefully.

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« Reply #2530 on: November 09, 2024, 10:35:31 am »

OK I'll make this simple - firstly you didn't call out a country you called out the people from that country - now hopefully you don't mean it but messages like that when read by certain individuals on broader social media outlets will deem that  all Iraqi's agree with the wicked proposal - and that can result in widespread discrimination & disruption as we continue to see.

Of course I don't know numbers but with respect its just possible I have more experience than you of working and living in the Middle East across a wide spectrum of society and I know the vast majority of educated Iraqi's are appalled at this proposal.

I emphasise educated because the fundamentalist fractions rely on a principle of not educating individuals as key aspect of their power.

I doubt if you or I will agree on anything and whilst no one hopefully takes any of our  comments too seriously Social Media is a powerful weapon and I think we should all choose our words carefully.



This applies everywhere. Don't forget the TikTok generation will be voters one day.
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« Reply #2531 on: November 09, 2024, 10:53:28 am »

This applies everywhere. Don't forget the TikTok generation will be voters one day.

Indeed - somewhat depressing isn’t it?

Still Musk to the rescue having f***ed up this planet he will find us another one to repeat the process.
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« Reply #2532 on: November 09, 2024, 11:56:20 am »

Indeed - somewhat depressing isn’t it?

Still Musk to the rescue having f***ed up this planet he will find us another one to repeat the process.
I would doubt thats in the capabilities of one man. But by colonizing another planet, has he not ensured the survival of our species?
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« Reply #2533 on: November 09, 2024, 12:11:03 pm »

I would doubt thats in the capabilities of one man. But by colonizing another planet, has he not ensured the survival of our species?

Does a species that has wilfully engineered its own demise deserve to survive - in any case there was an element of sarcasm from me - no doubt Musk has a lot of talents but I think wealth beyond imagination brings with it a kind of madness - his mantra for free speech on X has a certain appeal but he seems to ignore that with free speech comes responsibility.
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« Reply #2534 on: November 09, 2024, 12:56:19 pm »

Does a species that has wilfully engineered its own demise deserve to survive - in any case there was an element of sarcasm from me - no doubt Musk has a lot of talents but I think wealth beyond imagination brings with it a kind of madness - his mantra for free speech on X has a certain appeal but he seems to ignore that with free speech comes responsibility.
I agree with you about Musk, there is an element of smugness and holier than thou about him, but I had not got you marked down as a doomsday merchant.  Grin
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« Reply #2535 on: November 09, 2024, 13:21:18 pm »

I agree with you about Musk, there is an element of smugness and holier than thou about him, but I had not got you marked down as a doomsday merchant.  Grin

….bad day and I‘m allowing Manny to wind me up - a point today will cheer me up!
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« Reply #2536 on: November 09, 2024, 13:37:00 pm »

….bad day and I‘m allowing Manny to wind me up - a point today will cheer me up!
Borrow one of mine, I have a spare.

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« Reply #2537 on: November 09, 2024, 13:49:52 pm »

Borrow one of mine, I have a spare.



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« Reply #2538 on: November 09, 2024, 19:40:41 pm »

Borrow one of mine, I have a spare.



Bloody hell Tabby have you been out climate protesting again? Make sure you don't wind up the Navvies, they are easily upset if they have any disruption to their lives for the greater good. 😉
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« Reply #2539 on: November 10, 2024, 18:16:57 pm »

A people-trafficker granted asylum by the Tories has been jailed. Well done Labour, starting to clean up the mess left by the Conservatives.
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