Politics

[Manwork04]

A people-trafficker granted asylum by the Tories has been jailed. Well done Labour, starting to clean up the mess left by the Conservatives.

Has it stopped all the boats?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-problem-with-starmers-plan-to-smash-the-gangs/

[Bugbrooke Boy]

Probably about as many as Mr Sunak stopped.

[Manwork04]

Probably about as many as Mr Sunak stopped.

They have gone up by 25% actually, sad thing is it’s no surprise.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/statistics-relating-to-the-illegal-migration-bill/additional-statistics-relating-to-illegal-migration-march-2024

[DrillingCobbler]

The issue with Starmers approach is that he wants to collaborate with other countries to stop the boats. Yet when their final destination is here, the last thing other countries want to do is to stop them! 

If they really wanted to stop them, they'd only have to send out a warning that the next boat with illegals on it that heads into our water will be shot at by our navy on grounds of security and it would make them think twice. If one then dared to cross and got sunk it would end the practice immediately. No more deaths in the channel thereafter.

It might be a diplomatic disaster but its the only thing that would bloody work! Of course Im not suggesting that's what we should do, but for the sake of one small number of chancers trying their luck and coming unstuck, it would end the work of the gangs. Hardlined yes but I've not seen any other solution that isn't crazily expensive or would actually work. The last governments approach to it wasn't particularly friendly either, the only difference being is that it was never likely to work in practice (as a deterrent) because if someone is so desperate to try their luck in a small dinghy then having to potentially go to Rwanda is unlikely to have much of an effect in my opinion.

So as I see it we either try something really hard lined or just accept that they will continue to come over swelling our population and causing many problems. And stop whinging about it! 

[EB Claret]

We need to start a major shark breeding program and release them in the Channel.

[Shoemender]

We need to start a major shark breeding program and release them in the Channel.

Are you saying that you want passengers in small boats that get into difficulties in the channel to be attacked by sharks?
Shocking

[Bugbrooke Boy]

Old news Mr Manwork, although it also states enforced removals were also up. I welcome asylum seekers - we are a compassionate nation and we need the workers. I would obviously rather there were legal routes so that people did not need to use small boats.

[XVK]

The UK government has admitted in court that the country's largest untapped oilfield, Rosebank off Shetland, was approved unlawfully.
The move came during a case brought by climate campaigners against both Rosebank and the Jackdaw gas field in the North Sea.
At the Court of Session in Edinburgh Chris Pirie KC, for the government, accepted that assessments did not include “the effects on climate of the combustion of oil and gas to be extracted from the fields.”
Rosebank was given the green light on 27 September 2023 and Jackdaw on 1 June 2022, both by the previous Conservative administration.

bad tories 

[Tabasco Kid]

The UK government has admitted in court that the country's largest untapped oilfield, Rosebank off Shetland, was approved unlawfully.
The move came during a case brought by climate campaigners against both Rosebank and the Jackdaw gas field in the North Sea.
At the Court of Session in Edinburgh Chris Pirie KC, for the government, accepted that assessments did not include “the effects on climate of the combustion of oil and gas to be extracted from the fields.”
Rosebank was given the green light on 27 September 2023 and Jackdaw on 1 June 2022, both by the previous Conservative administration.

bad tories 

Would you rather we used "home grown" UK oil, or shipped it in from the ever reliable Russia, or any of the ever reliable middle eastern states? We have almost terminated UK coal production after all. Never mind, lets just import everything.

[Manwork04]

Would you rather we used "home grown" UK oil, or shipped it in from the ever reliable Russia, or any of the ever reliable middle eastern states? We have almost terminated UK coal production after all. Never mind, lets just import everything.

They will all be screaming when the cost of living sky rockets because of all the O&G we import.

[CobblerForever]

The UK government has admitted in court that the country's largest untapped oilfield, Rosebank off Shetland, was approved unlawfully.
The move came during a case brought by climate campaigners against both Rosebank and the Jackdaw gas field in the North Sea.
At the Court of Session in Edinburgh Chris Pirie KC, for the government, accepted that assessments did not include “the effects on climate of the combustion of oil and gas to be extracted from the fields.”
Rosebank was given the green light on 27 September 2023 and Jackdaw on 1 June 2022, both by the previous Conservative administration.

bad tories 

Chris Pirie KC took his instruction from the Labour Government (Ed Miliband, the Energy Minister specifically) not to contest the case. Miliband was against issuing the licenses all along because of his green credentials (for the want of a better phrase).

I agree with Manny and Tabasco, we should have continued to extract Oil & Gas until we have genuinely viable options. Not blind optimism.

[everbrite]

Put simply: too many poorly educated hicks in deprived states who fall for his rhetoric and bluster.

Well you could say that about some on here the way a few comment on Jon Brady.

Not a personal comment and I like Kier Starmer and his budget too!
Still think Boris is a natural for future PM! Pity as it wlll upset those on high moral standards.
Don't think much of Dawn Butler and Ms Maitland! Not sure about Trump and his new Cabinet; his credentials for President seem a bit OTT.

[XVK]

Would you rather we used "home grown" UK oil, or shipped it in from the ever reliable Russia, or any of the ever reliable middle eastern states? We have almost terminated UK coal production after all. Never mind, lets just import everything.

Oil is oil, there's no moral judgements from me, just showing the illegal activities of the former government 

[everbrite]

The issue with Starmers approach is that he wants to collaborate with other countries to stop the boats. Yet when their final destination is here, the last thing other countries want to do is to stop them! 

If they really wanted to stop them, they'd only have to send out a warning that the next boat with illegals on it that heads into our water will be shot at by our navy on grounds of security and it would make them think twice. If one then dared to cross and got sunk it would end the practice immediately. No more deaths in the channel thereafter.

It might be a diplomatic disaster but its the only thing that would bloody work! Of course Im not suggesting that's what we should do, but for the sake of one small number of chancers trying their luck and coming unstuck, it would end the work of the gangs. Hardlined yes but I've not seen any other solution that isn't crazily expensive or would actually work. The last governments approach to it wasn't particularly friendly either, the only difference being is that it was never likely to work in practice (as a deterrent) because if someone is so desperate to try their luck in a small dinghy then having to potentially go to Rwanda is unlikely to have much of an effect in my opinion.

So as I see it we either try something really hard lined or just accept that they will continue to come over swelling our population and causing many problems. And stop whinging about it! 

Am glad you are not our PM!

[Manwork04]

What part of the "former government approved the licenses" bypassed you?

What part of hundreds of thousands of jobs being lost in Aberdeen and the supply chain did you miss? 😘

[XVK]

What part of hundreds of thousands of jobs being lost in Aberdeen and the supply chain did you miss? 😘

Not my problem 

[everbrite]

The UK government has admitted in court that the country's largest untapped oilfield, Rosebank off Shetland, was approved unlawfully.
The move came during a case brought by climate campaigners against both Rosebank and the Jackdaw gas field in the North Sea.
At the Court of Session in Edinburgh Chris Pirie KC, for the government, accepted that assessments did not include “the effects on climate of the combustion of oil and gas to be extracted from the fields.”
Rosebank was given the green light on 27 September 2023 and Jackdaw on 1 June 2022, both by the previous Conservative administration.

bad tories 

If it meant that it ensured that NGH was kept going and/or warm so be it! Applies to whole country!

[DrillingCobbler]

We need to start a major shark breeding program and release them in the Channel.

 

That and shooting the bloody dinghy's should do the job!

I dont know why people don't see these as viable solutions when they are content to live in a country that jails people for tweeting nasty things whilst allowing proper criminals to leave prison early to make room for them. The way I see it is you cant have it one way and not the other. Their boat would only sink followed by a shark attack if they are there in the first place. If I tried to break into Buckingham Palace Id at least get tasered. If I resisted arrest and the police suspected me of being a danger Id get shot (probably). So whats the bloody difference?!!!!  

[XVK]

About 1,600 jobs are expected to be created during the peak of construction. Long term, the operation will create 450 jobs.
Despite oil and gas output in the North Sea having declined in the last 20 years, the industry still employs more than 200,000 people
Will it mean lower energy bills in the UK?
Oil and gas from UK waters is not necessarily used here - it is sold on global markets.

Reference the drilling licenses issued for Rosebank via the leftist biased BBC 

[XVK]

If it meant that it ensured that NGH was kept going and/or warm so be it! Applies to whole country!

The oil and gas extracted would have been sold on the open market rather than the UK, the oilfields are jointly owned by by a Norwegian and British company