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Regarding Haigh from the Telegraph this afternoon;
"When Louise Haigh offered train drivers a whopping 15 per cent pay rise in August, she boldly said she was fulfilling a promise to “move fast and fix things” such as the long-running strikes.
Allies of Sir Keir Starmer, however, had a different description of her behaviour: “Going rogue.”
She was accused at the time of making the pay offer – gratefully accepted by members of the Aslef union – without first clearing it with the Treasury, and there were even rumours that Sir Keir only found out about it when he heard it on the radio.
The generous three-year pay deal meant some train drivers earning £80,000 for a four-day week without having to reform any of their antiquated working practices, and came just two weeks after Rachel Reeves had announced she was taking winter fuel payments away from millions of pensioners to fill a “black hole” in public spending. Labour’s opponents had a field day.
Many within Labour are tracing her demise back to that moment, believing her fate was sealed as soon as she “blindsided” No 10 and the Treasury over train drivers’ pay.
It would certainly help to explain why Ms Haigh felt the need to resign over a spent criminal conviction she had told Sir Keir about four years ago, and why his reply to her resignation was almost disdainfully brief.
Allies of Ms Haigh have pointed the finger for what they say was an enforced resignation at Morgan McSweeney, Sir Keir’s chief of staff, who has already emerged victorious from a power battle with his predecessor Sue Gray".
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Exactly that, to question or challenge does not mean you automatically take the opposite stance- ni à gauche ni à droite!
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I have gentler aspirations now, a more equitable society free from division and hate.
Hear, hear. There is most definitely a position for Comrade 15000 in the Common Sense Coalition. People' Champion of Ethics at the very least.
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Hear, hear.
There is most definitely a position for Comrade 15000 in the Common Sense Coalition. People' Champion of Ethics at the very least.
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I have gentler aspirations now, a more equitable society free from division and hate. And a world free of trolls and the suchlike
I think we all would like to live in Eutopia.
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I'm a realist........ but I do know what I would like
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I'm a realist........ but I do know what I would like
Me too. Sorry but a life where people are more considerate is more likely.
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4 Months in, are people happy with the progress. What has been the change that has had the biggest impact on people personally so far?
Just curious.
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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, the Trust “advisor” is not god. Are you going to tell him or shall I?
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4 Months in, are people happy with the progress. What has been the change that has had the biggest impact on people personally so far?
Just curious.
Nil impact on my life thus far
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No thank you, not for me
That's disappointing. I would like to think good people would like to do their bit for society. Well, not to worry, keep on doing your thing in your own way. Think global, act local, don't underestimate the combined effect of lots of people doing doing small things to influence and effect change.
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4 Months in, are people happy with the progress. What has been the change that has had the biggest impact on people personally so far?
Just curious.
People are over the moon, they have stated a petition for another General Election which has attracted a mere 3,000,000 signatures, pretty impressive stuff for 4 months, as Elon says Labour will be utterly wiped out at the next election, again.
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4 Months in, are people happy with the progress. What has been the change that has had the biggest impact on people personally so far?
Just curious.
Quite happy that the first budget didn't cause economic meltdown, unlike another new leader /Chancellor I could mention. Good to see some steps towards wealth redistribution, but further to go. Good to see money allocated to areas that have been squeezed over far too many years, eg health and education. Disappointed that tax thresholds weren't raised and neither was the rate of income tax, but then again, they said they wouldn't do the latter. Rome wasn't built in a day. Delighted that our leaders are no longer making threats to disregard /break international law, so we can take moral high ground and sensibly influence other international players. Good they are building bridges with international partners and are no longer laughing stock on the world stage. We have a serious, even if he's not charismatic, leader. Most of all, there is hope for the future. How is it going in Aus? Are your kids looking forward to not being able to use social media. I genuinely hope it goes well and children can go back to being children.
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Quite happy that the first budget didn't cause economic meltdown, unlike another new leader /Chancellor I could mention. Good to see some steps towards wealth redistribution, but further to go. Good to see money allocated to areas that have been squeezed over far too many years, eg health and education.
Disappointed that tax thresholds weren't raised and neither was the rate of income tax, but then again, they said they wouldn't do the latter.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Delighted that our leaders are no longer making threats to disregard /break international law, so we can take moral high ground and sensibly influence other international players. Good they are building bridges with international partners and are no longer laughing stock on the world stage. We have a serious, even if he's not charismatic, leader.
Most of all, there is hope for the future.
How is it going in Aus? Are your kids looking forward to not being able to use social media. I genuinely hope it goes well and children can go back to being children.
Fully support banning social media for children under 16, the rest of it is communist nonesense.
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Fully support banning social media for children under 16,
Voila! More in common than that which divides us.
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That's disappointing. I would like to think good people would like to do their bit for society.
Well, not to worry, keep on doing your thing in your own way. Think global, act local, don't underestimate the combined effect of lots of people doing doing small things to influence and effect change.
I don’t need patronising either! Consider yourself besmirched
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I don’t need patronising either! Consider yourself besmirched
Whoops, I didn't mean to and I do!
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4 Months in, are people happy with the progress. What has been the change that has had the biggest impact on people personally so far?
Just curious.
People are scared to use Twitter to voice an opinion, pensioners cannot afford to switch on their heating, you cannot book an out of town hotel (home office takes priority) and the bus price cap has risen by 50%. On the plus side, a pint of beer was reduced by a whole penny in the last budget. Hows life in convict land?
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Were in the pipe 5 by 5.
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Whoops, I didn't mean to and I do!
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People are scared to use Twitter to voice an opinion, pensioners cannot afford to switch on their heating, you cannot book an out of town hotel (home office takes priority) and the bus price cap has risen by 50%. On the plus side, a pint of beer was reduced by a whole penny in the last budget. Hows life in convict land?
Run by politicians, say no more!
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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, the Trust “advisor” is not god. Are you going to tell him or shall I?
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Quite happy that the first budget didn't cause economic meltdown, unlike another new leader /Chancellor I could mention. Good to see some steps towards wealth redistribution, but further to go. Good to see money allocated to areas that have been squeezed over far too many years, eg health and education.
Disappointed that tax thresholds weren't raised and neither was the rate of income tax, but then again, they said they wouldn't do the latter.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Delighted that our leaders are no longer making threats to disregard /break international law, so we can take moral high ground and sensibly influence other international players. Good they are building bridges with international partners and are no longer laughing stock on the world stage. We have a serious, even if he's not charismatic, leader.
Most of all, there is hope for the future.
How is it going in Aus? Are your kids looking forward to not being able to use social media. I genuinely hope it goes well and children can go back to being children.
As I said above, run by politicians so it’s never going to be great. I’ve tried to instil my philosophy regarding social media on the kids (of which I have many, mainly teenagers now) don’t give a fúck and if anyone starts, take the piss. However, they are still a bit fragile and care about what people think so I am delighted. As we all know, some of these teenagers can be evil little fúckers so it’s about time they had their vocal cords clipped. A bit of commonsense works wonders, it’s not hard is it.
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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, the Trust “advisor” is not god. Are you going to tell him or shall I?
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