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« Reply #1000 on: June 28, 2022, 20:39:14 pm »

Excellent, we are going to re-sign Paul Culpin.
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« Reply #1001 on: June 28, 2022, 20:51:40 pm »

You know this for sure?


I do.

Please remember this next summer….

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« Reply #1002 on: June 28, 2022, 21:27:49 pm »

Think contracts expire 30/06 so that date onwards should be busy as those still thinking about contract offers will no longer be paid!

Just seen Jordan Tunnicliffe leaving Crawley...28 and originally from Nuneaton...possible Horsfall replacement?

Then again, if Crawley really wanted to keep him, I'm sure with their bags they could...

Lots of decent players out there still to decide their futures


Tunnicliffe is off to Wrexham and a big salary…
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« Reply #1003 on: June 28, 2022, 21:56:05 pm »


Tunnicliffe is off to Wrexham and a big salary…


Ah well, may aswell just let Stockport, Salford, Crawley & Wrexham outbid each other for every decent player then until they've filled up their squads, then hopefully they'll still be some left for all us other clubs to pick up
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« Reply #1004 on: June 29, 2022, 00:34:17 am »

Ah well, may aswell just let Stockport, Salford, Crawley & Wrexham outbid each other for every decent player then until they've filled up their squads, then hopefully they'll still be some left for all us other clubs to pick up
All driving up expectations and salaries in the process, makes my píss boil. The entire EFL governing structure needs dismantling, fast.
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« Reply #1005 on: June 29, 2022, 01:04:29 am »



I do.

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« Reply #1007 on: June 29, 2022, 06:44:59 am »

All driving up expectations and salaries in the process, makes my píss boil. The entire EFL governing structure needs dismantling, fast.

We’re you equally annoyed when we were the club paying crazy wages for Gabbiadini, a huge fee for Kirk and a ridiculous package for Martin Smith to drop down a division and sign for a much smaller club.
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« Reply #1008 on: June 29, 2022, 07:22:50 am »

Ah well, may aswell just let Stockport, Salford, Crawley & Wrexham outbid each other for every decent player then until they've filled up their squads, then hopefully they'll still be some left for all us other clubs to pick up
That pretty much is the way it is - and add Chesterfield , Mansfield and Orient to that list just below the big boys .
However , as we saw last season it really isn’t and never has been all about money . I am sure they are the words of our chairman to the manager.
It is hard to constantly over perform though and get through on team spirit .
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« Reply #1009 on: June 29, 2022, 07:33:58 am »


I guess from what he says there he chose right - he thought we wouldn't be strong enough to stay up and Evans persuaded him that Gillingham were a better bet. Perhaps KC was too honest with him.
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« Reply #1010 on: June 29, 2022, 07:34:53 am »

That pretty much is the way it is - and add Chesterfield , Mansfield and Orient to that list just below the big boys .
However , as we saw last season it really isn’t and never has been all about money . I am sure they are the words of our chairman to the manager.
It is hard to constantly over perform though and get through on team spirit .


Didn’t you say that the budget had reduced literally a few days before we signed Hylton, Burge, Fox and Haynes at which point James Heneghan stated that the budget has been increased? I don’t doubt that we are not at the very top table but especially with Hylton and Burge you would have thought that at least one of the clubs’ that you list above would have outbid us if that was the case?
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« Reply #1011 on: June 29, 2022, 07:41:31 am »

That pretty much is the way it is - and add Chesterfield , Mansfield and Orient to that list just below the big boys .
However , as we saw last season it really isn’t and never has been all about money . I am sure they are the words of our chairman to the manager.
It is hard to constantly over perform though and get through on team spirit .


Use the more limited resources more wisely. Invest in players with a significant potential sell on. Have a process of improving players for the team and their benefit (Brady often says this).

Orient is a specific case in itself - far more expensive to live in that area. You need a much higher salary to get anything decent (rent or purchase).
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« Reply #1012 on: June 29, 2022, 07:50:05 am »

Use the more limited resources more wisely. Invest in players with a significant potential sell on. Have a process of improving players for the team and their benefit (Brady often says this).

Orient is a specific case in itself - far more expensive to live in that area. You need a much higher salary to get anything decent (rent or purchase).

You then have a group of inexperienced youngsters.
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« Reply #1013 on: June 29, 2022, 07:50:58 am »

That season we went berserk with Chinese money cost us dear - not only relegation but the club having to cut back for several years in an attempt to get the club back on an even keel. KC probably did a very good job for KT/DB in this respect. Managing the expectations of supporters and players.

Conclusion - the club needs credible consistency of management strategy - the owners failed us in this.
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« Reply #1014 on: June 29, 2022, 08:03:08 am »

Didn’t you say that the budget had reduced literally a few days before we signed Hylton, Burge, Fox and Haynes at which point James Heneghan stated that the budget has been increased? I don’t doubt that we are not at the very top table but especially with Hylton and Burge you would have thought that at least one of the clubs’ that you list above would have outbid us if that was the case?

It was rumoured down here that Pompey were also looking at Hylton.
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« Reply #1015 on: June 29, 2022, 08:45:31 am »

Didn’t you say that the budget had reduced literally a few days before we signed Hylton, Burge, Fox and Haynes at which point James Heneghan stated that the budget has been increased? I don’t doubt that we are not at the very top table but especially with Hylton and Burge you would have thought that at least one of the clubs’ that you list above would have outbid us if that was the case?
We have let 10 players leave, nearly all of the top earners have gone, we have brought in 4 quality players, I’m sure you can do the maths.
We were 17th in terms of budget last season, I’m led to believe it’s no better.
We still need a quality right sided Center half, cover at full back, another central midfielder, a wide player, (Eppiah?) and a couple of strikers.
And that’s the bare minimum.
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« Reply #1016 on: June 29, 2022, 09:20:56 am »

Didn’t you say that the budget had reduced literally a few days before we signed Hylton, Burge, Fox and Haynes at which point James Heneghan stated that the budget has been increased? I don’t doubt that we are not at the very top table but especially with Hylton and Burge you would have thought that at least one of the clubs’ that you list above would have outbid us if that was the case?
Don’t take out of context what i say .
The budget may have increased slightly but in relative terms against other teams in this division and some teams in the division below , it has decreased because other teams have increased their budgets by more .
Therefore , our standing when competing with other teams has diminished or at least stayed still .
The signings are no reflection on the budget necessarily .
The recruitment hadn’t finished and you don’t know what there is left to spend and whether the squad may be smaller for example .
In other words , the money may have increased but the competitiveness may not have done .
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« Reply #1017 on: June 29, 2022, 09:33:48 am »

Don’t take out of context what i say .
The budget may have increased slightly but in relative terms against other teams in this division and some teams in the division below , it has decreased because other teams have increased their budgets by more .
Therefore , our standing when competing with other teams has diminished or at least stayed still .
The signings are no reflection on the budget necessarily .
The recruitment hadn’t finished and you don’t know what there is left to spend and whether the squad may be smaller for example .
In other words , the money may have increased but the competitiveness may not have done .

I like the way you analyse things B&S - you'd make a good economist/econometrist. Considering opportunity cost, placing the issues in context, making relevant comparisons, making reference to imponderables/missing information. Vastly better than the sort of responses I get from the majority of undergraduate students I have to assess and mark for set work and examinations.
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« Reply #1018 on: June 29, 2022, 09:39:34 am »

Don’t take out of context what i say .
The budget may have increased slightly but in relative terms against other teams in this division and some teams in the division below , it has decreased because other teams have increased their budgets by more .
Therefore , our standing when competing with other teams has diminished or at least stayed still .
The signings are no reflection on the budget necessarily .
The recruitment hadn’t finished and you don’t know what there is left to spend and whether the squad may be smaller for example .
In other words , the money may have increased but the competitiveness may not have done .

 
Recent signings appear to contradict your analysis above!
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« Reply #1019 on: June 29, 2022, 09:55:12 am »

We have let 10 players leave, nearly all of the top earners have gone, we have brought in 4 quality players, I’m sure you can do the maths.
We were 17th in terms of budget last season, I’m led to believe it’s no better.
We still need a quality right sided Center half, cover at full back, another central midfielder, a wide player, (Eppiah?) and a couple of strikers.
And that’s the bare minimum.

I think last season we had cover (probably quite expensive) where we didn’t need it and in a desperate attempt to find a striker we had too many players in that position that simply weren’t good enough- still signings to be made but with the exception of a replacement for FH (although I believe Dyche can do a job) we have a good spine and hopefully some money left for some additional signings
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