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« Reply #220 on: May 19, 2022, 11:20:48 am »

we are getting tarnished with the idiots that ran on last night . Talksport couldn’t wait to do a feature on it this morning .
If he was Mansfield , why did he push one of their players ? He must have been one of theirs because it was a yellow flare he set off . Also , no one knows him .
The problem is , we are getting the blame .
Is he either teams? Wasnt wearing any colours for either team which was odd for a play off semi. Could be a Liverpool/Man U/Chelsea fans tgat infest town who hasn't come before but saw a chance to mug off in from of the cameras.
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« Reply #221 on: May 19, 2022, 11:23:02 am »

we shall find out when he's charged and his address is revealed but I would have thought away fan as the smoke was their colours and he was an absolute tramp. I know we have some scruffy fans but this one was something else.
My thoughts would be he left the away end and walked in through the North West gate which was open at the time

Oi I am a right scruffy tramp, give me some credit geeze.
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« Reply #222 on: May 19, 2022, 11:41:34 am »

To be honest I'd completely forgotten about losing to Southend until someone mentioned it the other day so that one clearly didn't have much of an impression.
Yeah, that was me bitching to Melbourne, about how much I hate the play-offs. And guess what? I still fcuking hate them!  Grin
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« Reply #223 on: May 19, 2022, 11:48:14 am »

The gap between the playoff final and pre-season (two weeks, possibly three for the contenders) is ridiculous this year. No significant break at all.
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« Reply #224 on: May 19, 2022, 12:05:50 pm »

Pollock losing his spot on the Sub's bench - must be devastating for him. Lewis can hardly have been anywhere near match fit.
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« Reply #225 on: May 19, 2022, 12:15:36 pm »

TBH I thought that we should be more concerned with the left back area rather than the right back area following the first leg.  Wink

All three goals came through the left back area, Mansfield knew where to target...
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« Reply #226 on: May 19, 2022, 12:33:02 pm »

I've just watched it on SSN.
In the olden days, it would have been flagged, but see this quote from IFAB which explains it appropriately:
"An attacking player in an offside position runs towards the ball but does not play the ball or prevent the opponent from playing or being able to play the ball.
It is not an offside offence so the referee allows play to continue. The attacking player is only penalised if he/she plays the ball or interferes with an opponent."
Unfortunately, it was a good decision.



Being in an offside position and running for the ball, (particularly in the case yesterday when there was another player running for the ball also) forces the defender to make a decision on who to track and where to run to cover. Can you tell me how that does not constitute interfering with an opponent?
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« Reply #227 on: May 19, 2022, 12:48:09 pm »

I've just watched it on SSN.
In the olden days, it would have been flagged, but see this quote from IFAB which explains it appropriately:
"An attacking player in an offside position runs towards the ball but does not play the ball or prevent the opponent from playing or being able to play the ball.
It is not an offside offence so the referee allows play to continue. The attacking player is only penalised if he/she plays the ball or interferes with an opponent."
Unfortunately, it was a good decision.



Interesting I didn’t know that was the law. So a slightly different scenario, the ball is swung in from the keepers left to his right post, a striker in an offside position runs from the keepers right looking to dribble round him on his left, the keeper reacts to this threat and moves to his left, in the end the striker leaves the ball and it creeps in at the far post. Does that goal stand as the striker has not played or prevented anyone playing the ball?.
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« Reply #228 on: May 19, 2022, 12:51:10 pm »

Being in an offside position and running for the ball, (particularly in the case yesterday when there was another player running for the ball also) forces the defender to make a decision on who to track and where to run to cover. Can you tell me how that does not constitute interfering with an opponent?
Current law from FA Website...

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
interfering with an opponent by:
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
or
gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
been deliberately saved by any opponent


Only one that could argue is the one in bold. But I dont think he was 'clearly attempting to play the ball'
I think it used to include "making a move towards" or words to that affect which he did, but that isnt in the current law.
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« Reply #229 on: May 19, 2022, 12:52:56 pm »

Is he either teams? Wasnt wearing any colours for either team which was odd for a play off semi. Could be a Liverpool/Man U/Chelsea fans tgat infest town who hasn't come before but saw a chance to mug off in from of the cameras.

Hard to tell if they were Mansfield or Town. My guess actually is neither. Jumped on a band wagon to make a pathetic name for themselves whilst drugged up to the eyeballs. To repeat the mantra from the 70s hooligan years it's a society problem, and hating to bring politics in to this feed but it is fuelled by the partisan nature of this government and what they were elected on.

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« Reply #230 on: May 19, 2022, 13:03:27 pm »

On their goal....it's a bit irrelevant because you'd think we'd be more inclined to score when we needed two goals to draw level with an hour left. 
I've watched it a few times and players need to train themselves to not stop and wave their hands around for offside, although I'm not fully convinced that would have prevented the goal.
The active player was clearly onside. 
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« Reply #231 on: May 19, 2022, 13:12:18 pm »

I hope the twonk who ran an the pitch near the end of the game and pushed the Mansfield player gets the book thrown at him. That sort of behaviour is simply not on.
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« Reply #232 on: May 19, 2022, 13:16:37 pm »

Hard to tell if they were Mansfield or Town. My guess actually is neither. Jumped on a band wagon to make a pathetic name for themselves whilst drugged up to the eyeballs. To repeat the mantra from the 70s hooligan years it's a society problem, and hating to bring politics in to this feed but it is fuelled by the partisan nature of this government and what they were elected on.



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« Reply #233 on: May 19, 2022, 13:21:05 pm »

Hard to tell if they were Mansfield or Town. My guess actually is neither. Jumped on a band wagon to make a pathetic name for themselves whilst drugged up to the eyeballs. To repeat the mantra from the 70s hooligan years it's a society problem, and hating to bring politics in to this feed but it is fuelled by the partisan nature of this government and what they were elected on.

I know what your saying but the one I saw was too fat for smack and crack. Reckon it was just special brew and too much belittling from all his Mums boyfriends growing up.
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« Reply #234 on: May 19, 2022, 13:37:44 pm »

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« Reply #235 on: May 19, 2022, 13:37:56 pm »

Should hold up in the invaders defense, it wasnt my fault your honour, it was the government's  Grin
Way to bring politics into sport  Huh?
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« Reply #236 on: May 19, 2022, 13:38:53 pm »

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« Reply #237 on: May 19, 2022, 13:55:11 pm »

I hope we get to the bottom of who he is. He seemed to want to fight with everyone and had a yellow flare so agree it seems he's fan of neither but how did he get a ticket? Hopefully we was arrested and will be charged and gets a life ban from all stadiums (although think the Forest 'fan' only got 2 year ban)
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« Reply #238 on: May 19, 2022, 14:07:28 pm »

(although think the Forest 'fan' only got 2 year ban)
Robert Biggs, the Forest fan, has been banned from all football for ten years, and has landed himself a six month prison sentence.
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« Reply #239 on: May 19, 2022, 14:08:00 pm »

I hope we get to the bottom of who he is. He seemed to want to fight with everyone and had a yellow flare so agree it seems he's fan of neither but how did he get a ticket? Hopefully we was arrested and will be charged and gets a life ban from all stadiums (although think the Forest 'fan' only got 2 year ban)

I'm almost certain the one in the scarf/flag was being let out of the West by a copper after the game. We stayed to clap the team off but could only have been 10 minutes after full time.
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