Mysterious Curle
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Are we really sure that Hylton would have scored more than Appere if he had started more games?. In pre season friendlies he missed both of the penalties he took.
I think he would struggle to score any less to be honest.
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everbrite
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I would keep the faith with Appéré in this role. He seems a decent enough footballer and it can often take a little while before the hard work coverts to goals scored. It even took Rico a while before he was banging in goals for fun.
Good comment on Appéré, for inspite of some insensitive comments on here he may well come good as might Hylton!
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Irchy cob
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I keep hoping that Hylton will come good but in the last few matches when he’s come on as substitute he hasn’t exactly put himself about and doesn’t look particularly bothered.
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bungle
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I'm not convinced that Hylton suits our style of play or 4-3-3 system. He's not mobile enough to press particularly effectively, not fast enough to run in behind and not enough of an aerial threat to win flick ons or dominate from crosses. In short, he doesn't really have the attributes to play as the central/lone striker in a three.
I suspect that he's played most of his career in a front two where his finishing ability and guile has enabled him to thrive alongside a targetman or pace merchant. Perhaps he'll break his duck one of these days and go on a run.
As I said previously, the best option we currently have as a centre forward in the 4-3-3 is Bowie. He was excellent in that role against Bradford, such was his workrate in the press, his willingness to run in behind and his not inconsiderable aerial ability. Bowie is also flexible and intelligent enough to drift wide and allow Hoskins to come in to the middle - a level of fluidity which L2 defences struggle to deal with.
I like Appere a lot and his flexibility to play across the front three is a real asset to the squad. I think his finishing and decision making will improve in time (C.f. Hoskins).
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Welly Cobb
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My Luton friend said when we signed him that he thrives off tap-ins and being in the right place at the right time, which I agree is not exactly what we play to.
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cobbler151
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To me the reason for the criticism of Appere is very much understandable. His work rate is tremendous and he contributes to a fluid front 3 with his willingness to pull out wide also. But the numbers very much confirm what the eyes tell me each time I see him, hes just simply not enough of a goal threat considering the side we have.
Of all strikers who have played at least 800 mins in L2 this season no one averages less touches in the oppositions box than Appere. His XG is 4th lowest of those players, completes aerially the 4th lowest amount also (more noticeable at home where it feels like we can get stuck for ideas sometimes and go direct whereby he just does not compete most of the time against the CB's). I think he is much more suited to our play away from home where we seem to have more fluiditiy and the whole team presses high as the opposition tends to attack us more. When teams sit deeper against us at Sixfields he just does not offer enough threat in general IMO and always seems to be wanting to take too many touches or looking to pass instead of getting shots away. I would rather see Hylton get a run at home or Bowie through the middle more often at home.
Not trying to hate on him or anything, obviously he has played a role in our team doing fantastically well. He is also young enough whereby he can still clearly still improve, but i just dont think hes a natural striker, you can see why he was predominantly played out wide in Scotland.
I think he's made about 37 appearances for us scoring 6 goals and 8 assists,. He's 23 and still very much learning his trade. I dont think that's a bad return considering the dross of strikers we have had over the years(Kabamba, Hooper,Savage, Lobjoit, Platt, Snoupe, BAS) I don't know what we expect? Hoskins I know has been solid for us for years but many on here doubted his finishing infront of goal, now look at him. Appere is few years off his peak and may or may not come good, but overall 14 goal contributions of 37/38 appearances a few being off the bench is not something to be sniffed at.
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I think he's made about 37 appearances for us scoring 6 goals and 8 assists,. He's 23 and still very much learning his trade. I dont think that's a bad return considering the dross of strikers we have had over the years(Kabamba, Hooper,Savage, Lobjoit, Platt, Snoupe, BAS)
I don't know what we expect? Hoskins I know has been solid for us for years but many on here doubted his finishing infront of goal, now look at him.
Appere is few years off his peak and may or may not come good, but overall 14 goal contributions of 37/38 appearances a few being off the bench is not something to be sniffed at.
Fair points. As I say, im not saying I dont see value in what he does, but I can also understand the criticism. As you say we have had some awful strikers in recent memory, but hes also not at the levels of Rico, Collins, Marquis etc. For a team that has basically been in the automatic promotion places for the entirety of his time here his goal record is pretty poor its fair to say. He has positive attributes without question and still has time to improve, but can we improve in that position? I would say we can, particularly for games against teams who set up defensively against us.
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Arminder Shwami
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I think I’m probably Louis’s biggest fan. For me he starts, although that could be in a withdrawn striker role in a 4-2-3-1. The 4-3-3 doesn’t seem to work well at home. Not sure about the call for a lump-it-to-him striker. It’s the No 10 role we should prioritise if that’s not going to be Harrop.
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TPFKA Marvo
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In regard Appere, I watch all the games on Ifollow, the away matches come with away commentary and they all seem to rate him highly, the Bradford guys in particular thought he was tremendous against them.
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It's all about balance.
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Mysterious Curle
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I think the fact Appere divides opinion so much says all we need to know.
Hlyton on the other hand…
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Bingers
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If you are expecting Bradford to push on in the second half of the season, I am sure you will be delighted to hear that today they signed a striker as back up to Andy Cook. Matt Derbyshire, who has graced the Cypriot, Australian and Indian leagues for the last 6 years, but played under Mark Hughes (not "our" one) in the Premier League at Blackburn.
I expect to have a good laugh about it with some mates soon.
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cobbler151
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Brady said he focusing on getting in house contracts sorted, which is pleasing.
I hope at top of that list is Sowerby.
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606 Parklands_Cobbler
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McGowan, Koiki, Dyche (i think) and Sowerby are the main people out of contract at the end of the season.
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Mysterious Curle
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Brady said he focusing on getting in house contracts sorted, which is pleasing.
I hope at top of that list is Sowerby.
‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results‘.
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ajp
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I predict McGowan, Dyche, Sowerby will sign, Koiki will be off.
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everbrite
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‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results‘.
Can see the irony in that comment. Informative point though!
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west stand oap
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Well Nostradamus as your able to predict which players will sign new contracts please save us all from another 4 months of worry and tell us if we are going to be automatically promoted.
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Welly Cobb
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Nothing else to speculate about considering our rumours never leak now. Why not guess, it's not like he's claiming it will definitely be the case.
I expect us to finish in the playoffs, bur have a better go at it than we did at Mansfield.
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Tabasco Kid
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A forward on loan from Scotland was rumoured….
And denied by Brady.. After he read it on here..
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Were in the pipe 5 by 5.
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