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« Reply #480 on: January 23, 2023, 12:06:27 pm »

As i said at the beginning of the window - let’s see exactly what funds are available and the quality of player  that we get in .
Bearing in mind , there is a real need right now for a fit centre half and nothing is on the horizon .
It’s also clear certain players do not fit the manager’s plans and so are out the frame .

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« Reply #481 on: January 23, 2023, 12:07:04 pm »

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/brady-will-not-panic-buy-as-cobblers-go-through-their-toughest-period-of-the-season-3994608

JB will not panic buy to replace those who are injured.
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« Reply #482 on: January 23, 2023, 12:09:33 pm »

The facts are this season in the league:
 
With Hoskins playing. W10 D6 L5 GF32. That's an average of 1.7pts per games and 1.5 goals per game.

Without Hoskins: W3 D1 L1 GF8. That's an average of 2pts per game and 1.6 goals per game.

Now you can opine as much as you like but those are the facts and they are indisputable.

So to answer your question, do I really believe we would be performing better without Hoskins, my response would be based on the facts, so yes, because that's exactly what we have done.

Note: What those stats don't show is that those games without Hoskins were all away from home and we were up against sides in 1st, 2nd, 6th, 7th & 11th. Remarkable performances.

I like stats and I like the detail you provide.  It's some argument to make that we would be better off not playing our top golascorer.  Who is statistically top scorer by miles, which is also a fact.

What I would question is a couple of things.  Is five games missing out of 26 a big enough sample size to come to any definitive conclusion?  In a team sport like football there are way too many other variables that will affect the ultimate result to make a conclusion based on any single individual factor.  
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« Reply #483 on: January 23, 2023, 12:40:46 pm »

What the hell are you on about ?
I refuse to own up to what and am bluffing about what ?
Orient signed two centre halves this window - one of which we tried to sign in the summer from Rotherham.
We are desperate and cannot compete / have proper funds available .
Orient losing 3.0 has got nothing to do with me .

You are still missing the point which some posters have now clearly pointed out to you. Of course LO losing 3-0 is nothing to do with you; it is their defensive performance in sufferring a heavy defeat.
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« Reply #484 on: January 23, 2023, 12:44:43 pm »

I like stats and I like the detail you provide.  It's some argument to make that we would be better off not playing our top golascorer.  Who is statistically top scorer by miles, which is also a fact.

What I would question is a couple of things.  Is five games missing out of 26 a big enough sample size to come to any definitive conclusion?  In a team sport like football there are way too many other variables that will affect the ultimate result to make a conclusion based on any single individual factor.  
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« Reply #485 on: January 23, 2023, 12:51:01 pm »

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« Reply #486 on: January 23, 2023, 13:03:46 pm »

Agreed that Hoskins missing 5 games is not a big enough sample size and I also think without his goals we would not be in 3rd place. It does show that we are not a one man team and are capable of winning games when he is missing.
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« Reply #487 on: January 23, 2023, 13:35:09 pm »

I like stats and I like the detail you provide.  It's some argument to make that we would be better off not playing our top golascorer.  Who is statistically top scorer by miles, which is also a fact.

What I would question is a couple of things.  Is five games missing out of 26 a big enough sample size to come to any definitive conclusion?  In a team sport like football there are way too many other variables that will affect the ultimate result to make a conclusion based on any single individual factor.  

The point I take from it is that it wouldn't be the end of the world if we lose him, the team have "coped" perfectly well when he hasn't been in the side. It's also quite startling that the "EFL top scorer" hasn't attracted any suitors. Make of that what you will.

I also take your point about variables but you can only take stock of the things you know, not guess at what you don't. I remember after the performance of the season (so far) at Bradford when somebody posted "imagine how many we'd have won by if Hoskins had played" which of course was nonsense. In that game McWilliams played an advanced role and was a revelation, scoring and being a real handful. Had Hoskins played McWilliams would not have been asked to "fill-in" so we'd have lost that contribution. We may well have still won with Hoskins in the side but we play in an different way to accommodate him and are much more pleasing to the eye when he hasn't played, more fluid, more entertaining. It still riles that after Bradford he was brought straight back into the starting line-up at home to Tranmere, only for the team to malfunction and no goals being scored. Brady sent out all the wrong messages in that game, it was a big mistake.

As for 5 games being long enough to form an opinion on a player or team or formation? I think it's a fair amount of time. Had the Cobblers lost the first 5 games this season I think they'd have been people calling for changes at the top.
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« Reply #488 on: January 23, 2023, 13:50:52 pm »

Plenty of movement on here today, have we signed anyone with genuine L1 potential to help our promotion push yet?

Or are we focusing on extending the deals of L2 players to help keep us competitive in L2 until 2025/2026 season? 
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« Reply #489 on: January 23, 2023, 14:09:02 pm »

Orient have x2 centre halves out for a good period and sign x2 very good replacements .
We could barely field a centre half on saturday due to injuries and cannot get a replacement in .
It questions the ambition of this club in my view .
Plenty of media bluff but where’s the evidence .

We currently have 5 Centre Backs in the first team squad. Unless at least 2 of these are crocked for the dseason I cannot see us signing another one.
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« Reply #490 on: January 23, 2023, 16:16:41 pm »

Looks like Charlie Goode is on his way to Blackpool.
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« Reply #491 on: January 23, 2023, 16:34:43 pm »

We currently have 5 Centre Backs in the first team squad. Unless at least 2 of these are crocked for the dseason I cannot see us signing another one.
We tried last week
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« Reply #492 on: January 23, 2023, 18:25:02 pm »

We tried last week
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« Reply #493 on: January 23, 2023, 18:25:27 pm »


Do you really believe that utter BS?
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« Reply #494 on: January 23, 2023, 18:51:12 pm »

Do you really believe that utter BS?

Not really, it's just a slight variation on the same old words and phrases that keep getting taken off the shelf every transfer window.

I'm waiting for that moment at 1 minute past midnight on Feb 1st when we are told we just missed out on this or that target.

Hopefully I am proved wrong as the squad definitely needs a boost.
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« Reply #495 on: January 23, 2023, 18:57:42 pm »

Revisiting the point that Hoskins missing 5 games is not a big enough sample size let's say he misses another game and we lose that game our points per game with him missing becomes 1.66 and the FACT would be that we are better with him in the team due to our better points per game of 1.71.
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« Reply #496 on: January 23, 2023, 19:34:58 pm »

Revisiting the point that Hoskins missing 5 games is not a big enough sample size let's say he misses another game and we lose that game our points per game with him missing becomes 1.66 and the FACT would be that we are better with him in the team due to our better points per game of 1.71.

Or we could win and that gap grow even wider. I suggest we wait and see if it happens rather than speculate. Deal with what we know.
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« Reply #497 on: January 23, 2023, 20:10:00 pm »

They’ve always said they would only sign someone who improved upon what we currently have. I’ve not seen that many players traded at our level that fit that bill so far? Signing players for the sake of it in the past has turned out to be counter productive. So it’s worth pointing out that nothing would have often been better than something.
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« Reply #498 on: January 23, 2023, 20:23:11 pm »

What I would question is a couple of things.  Is five games missing out of 26 a big enough sample size to come to any definitive conclusion?  In a team sport like football there are way too many other variables that will affect the ultimate result to make a conclusion based on any single individual factor.  

That’s right the sample size is too small to make it nothing more than trivia. For example had we drawn just one of the games we won without Hoskins then the average points would be 1.6 making them worse performances than with Hoskins.

It’s rather like claiming Alladyce to be the greatest ever England manager.
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« Reply #499 on: January 23, 2023, 20:37:33 pm »

Well that proves it, signing a 20 goal a season striker is pointless. Because on this seasons form we’ve got one and it doesn’t matter if he plays or not. Bunch of money wasting amateurs the lot of you.
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