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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2023, 21:01:14 pm »

Not all though. I spend a small fortune on not using any single use plastic. Fussy deodorant, the Smol range, got them all. The problem being that without knowing the carbon footprint of anything you buy (single use or otherwise) itís hard to know what actually is environmentally friendly. e.g. as soon as my bleach free, plastic free, tea bags arrive on my Amazon subscription it probably defeats the object. Especially when I see how the guy hammers his diesel van and take the OTT packaging out to the bin.
Iím sure itís all a money maker that lets us feel as though weíre doing our bit.


Sorry to pick this up so late Dav, Amazon daily delivery vans have been EV powered for at least 12 months.
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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2023, 07:03:19 am »

Sorry to pick this up so late Dav, Amazon daily delivery vans have been EV powered for at least 12 months.

That took a while!
They introduced about 1,000 EV vehicles and make c2 million deliveries a day. Itíll be scratching the surface of their carbon footprint reduction targets.
Range and payload (for commercial vehicles) is a big issue. We have a handful of EV vans, which are placed in very dense areas. With congestion charges and PR benefits it makes sense.
The government keep moving the goal posts as they know we are miles from having the infrastructure and public by in.
Anyone driving EV will know that range anxiety is very real if they are up and down the motorways on regular long trips.
I can get totally free charging (until the government inevitably tax it) and still not quite at the point that Iíd invest.
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« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2023, 07:38:02 am »

The company I work for are actually keen to move to EV vehicles as part of our sustainability strategy but we only have 3 DCs and a few outbases to deliver from. This coverage makes our delivery routes quite long and the  current range of the size of vehicles we need to make our deliveries means they just aren't a viable option at the moment.

Technology has quite a way to go before EV becomes a viable option for everyone.
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« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2023, 08:16:35 am »

Sorry to pick this up so late Dav, Amazon daily delivery vans have been EV powered for at least 12 months.
No their not. Theres a diesel one that delivers just around my way, and likes to chuck his cab rubbish into my recycling bin. Much like they treat their parcels. And a few Saturday mornings ago, there was a whole fleet of them hogging the pumps at the Welly Rd Esso station.
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« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2023, 08:22:13 am »

The company I work for are actually keen to move to EV vehicles as part of our sustainability strategy but we only have 3 DCs and a few outbases to deliver from. This coverage makes our delivery routes quite long and the  current range of the size of vehicles we need to make our deliveries means they just aren't a viable option at the moment.

Technology has quite a way to go before EV becomes a viable option for everyone.

Exactly that. If you are carrying a lot of tonnage and/or travelling significant stem mileage then itís a no go. Otherwise Iím sure Eddie Stobartís would be full on EV.
Although a lot happens with technology in a short space of time Iím not sure itís the answer or whether itíll be alternative solution.

With the Amazon ones, Iím sure theyíll be concentrated around London and very dense urban areas, probably delivering milk!
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« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2023, 08:29:40 am »

I still find Amazon a logistical miracle. How you can order anything (from thousands of suppliers) and it arrives the next day where you scan a barcode at a locker. Not a fan of how they doorstep parcels. I think Iíve had one issue from hundreds of orders. I wouldnít want to work for them though!
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« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2023, 08:34:04 am »

Sorry to pick this up so late Dav, Amazon daily delivery vans have been EV powered for at least 12 months.

I have an Amazon depot near me where they use EVs, they also have a fleet of normal vehicles with petrol generators to rescue the EVs in the evening.
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« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2023, 08:39:00 am »

I have an Amazon depot near me where they use EVs, they also have a fleet of normal vehicles with petrol generators to rescue the EVs in the evening.
Much like the wind turbines, that have a diesel generator to keep them spinning, on those cold frosty mornings when demand is high, but wind supply is low.  Grin
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« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2023, 10:06:59 am »

I see Stammer is modelling himself on Tony Blair 😂
Captain Hindsight really doesnít have a clue 😎
I see Tory housekeeping has reduced inflation and we wonít suffer anymore interest rate increases by that obnoxious leftist Andrew Bailey.
Have you completely erased this time last year from your mind?
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« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2023, 10:07:40 am »

Much like the wind turbines, that have a diesel generator to keep them spinning, on those cold frosty mornings when demand is high, but wind supply is low.  Grin

The amount of energy a wind turbine generates in it's life time no where near covers the amount of energy required for it's manufacture, also disposal of the turbine blades is an issue because of the materials.
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« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2023, 10:42:48 am »

The amount of energy a wind turbine generates in it's life time no where near covers the amount of energy required for it's manufacture, also disposal of the turbine blades is an issue because of the materials.
I am aware of this, its just a shame that the orange t-shirt mob dont see things the same way.
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« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2023, 12:17:52 pm »

I am aware of this, its just a shame that the orange t-shirt mob dont see things the same way.
Itís because most people are sheep and follow whatever is deemed trendy by our left wing media.
They need to go and protest in China, India and the US because anything we do here is like pissÓng in the sea unless the aforementioned agree to meaningful carbon reduction.
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« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2023, 13:10:46 pm »

That's doesn't seem to be true at all? https://fullfact.org/online/wind-turbines-energy/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2021/04/28/how-green-is-wind-power-really-a-new-report-tallies-up-the-carbon-cost-of-renewables/?sh=3e375fb073cd

What are your sources on it? I definitely think there's an argument with all green energy that you have to cost in the environmental cost of building it, but the claim that a wind turbine costs more energy to build that it makes up seems to be bogus.
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« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2023, 14:18:34 pm »

That's doesn't seem to be true at all? https://fullfact.org/online/wind-turbines-energy/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2021/04/28/how-green-is-wind-power-really-a-new-report-tallies-up-the-carbon-cost-of-renewables/?sh=3e375fb073cd

What are your sources on it? I definitely think there's an argument with all green energy that you have to cost in the environmental cost of building it, but the claim that a wind turbine costs more energy to build that it makes up seems to be bogus.

Yes so called climate experts agree that they aren't going to kill the goose that is laying golden eggs. The issue with that report is that they quote "decades long lifespan" which is not the case. The turbine blades and their bearings wear out rather quickly and if you fancy a look on youtube you will see the result of not replacing them, added to which the blades cannot be recycled and end up in land fill.
The biggest issue is that Net Zero is nothing more than a way of taxing you and restricting your freedoms. More and more real scientists i.e. not Packham agree that reducing CO2 is actually bad for the environment and increasing CO2 levels would actually help agriculture as plants need it to grow. As for global warming, it exists depending from when you start measuring. There has been a 0.7 degree rise since C1850, yet studies show that since the Middle Ages there has been a drop of 4 degrees.
And EVs charged by coal power are just a way to fool libtards into thinking they are making a difference, because the Eco cost of producing EVs is staggering, let alone the cost in human lives in the cobalt mine in Africa.
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« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2023, 16:03:28 pm »

I try hard not to be bothered by the Global warming debate, there's nothing I can do about it and I am not going to be frightened to death by the climate extremists either. In the early 1980's the scientists reckoned that Northampton would be a seaside town and we'd have a warm Mediterranean climate by now!
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« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2023, 17:11:06 pm »

I try hard not to be bothered by the Global warming debate, there's nothing I can do about it and I am not going to be frightened to death by the climate extremists either. In the early 1980's the scientists reckoned that Northampton would be a seaside town and we'd have a warm Mediterranean climate by now!

Ah, so thatís why we planned to build a beach 🏝️

Loving the eco experts. Eat less meat for starters.  Evil
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« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2023, 10:39:10 am »

our left wing media.

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« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2023, 11:02:25 am »

Ah, so thatís why we planned to build a beach 🏝️

Loving the eco experts. Eat less meat for starters.  Evil
The tide lapping at the shores of Rectory Farm  Cool
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« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2023, 15:42:48 pm »

As for global warming, it exists depending from when you start measuring. There has been a 0.7 degree rise since C1850, yet studies show that since the Middle Ages there has been a drop of 4 degrees.

It's gone up loads since the ice age as well. I think the industrial revolution is probably the right time to measure it against if we are looking at human interference.


The so called climate experts at the University of Liverpool who lecture Younger Boy Bingers reckon that the planet will survive as it will keep on adapting - some species thrive, some die off. Unfortunately humans are fŁcked unless there is radical change to world wide, but particularly Western attitudes.

A more serious issue than votes for women? Yes, probably, but were those evil suffragette law breakers ultimately right? I wonder if those who broke the law to free slaves were also in the right? What do you reckon Manny?
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« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2023, 15:58:19 pm »


The so called climate experts at the University of Liverpool who lecture Younger Boy Bingers reckon that the planet will survive as it will keep on adapting - some species thrive, some die off. Unfortunately humans are fŁcked unless there is radical change to world wide, but particularly Western attitudes.
I wouldnt call the Chinese Westeners.

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