CHELSEA U21's

[Bingers]

Anyway, I’m pleased we’ve started to build our new unbeaten record.  

Same here!


Me and Dav, we're peas from the same pod. Tinnies from the same 4pack. Brothers in arms. Bro's with different mums, etc.


Yes, drinking on a school night.... Oh well.

[Lizard68]

Their number 55 Jimmy-Jay Morgan (striker) looked a decent player. Got a pat of approval from JB when he was substituted near the end of the game. Only 17 with no league experience but could be worth a punt in January.

[Tabasco Kid]

I have to admit that when the Chelsea lad Billy Gee was mentioned, I found myself squeaking oww in a high pitched voice, and pulling on my pair of penny loafers, and moonwalking around my front room. much to the bemusement of Mrs T. 

[cobbler151]

Its the same when people say no blame lies with Brady for our poor set of results. The comparison between him and other Cobblers managers tackling League 1 for the first time is stark. People say: yes but Brady has injuries, Brady has a small budget, Brady hasn't been backed in the transfer market but the TRUTH is none of our previous managers had any of those advantages. It's like for like and at the present time Brady is not looking too clever. The main difference I can see is that those previous managers weren't saddled with so many players from the previous season, leaving so little room for manoeuvre.

I'm not to sure about this?  I should imagine the 'Chiense money' gave JE with Crooks and VV and co a considerably more to play with than Brady? Look how that worked out.

Page certainly was not going about keeping us in the division in right way.

JFH was shocking, as was Austin and didn't Gray have the budget slashed by Cardoza and we went down?

As for Keith Curles reruitment, didn't he sign Bolger, Mitchell, Rasic, Miller, Korboa and Missilou and Seal to keep us in the division?  Just by having Leonard in the team we have more chance of staying up than with we did with those.

Brady as earnt us 160 points in league 2 over 2 seasons. Those players we are 'saddled with'   haven't looked too out their depth this season against good teams. Guthrie, Sherring, Leonard, Sowerby, Burge are spine of a half decent team. Ability wise Fox and Koiki should be fine in this league and being saddled with Hoskins I also don't think room for arguement after his season.

McGowen, Pinnock and Appere are the ones could be argued aren't up to it and ironically 2 of them have made some contributions.

Brady and co know what we are lacking and some of that is because he's not been backed, some of it is watching Luton every week. I'm sure that 3k a week Brady knows could be put to better use. Sadly a transfer that looked good on paper has been a disaster.

Dispite some questionable attacking recruitment, most of which looked good on paper...I'll take Brady over very manager we've had bar Wilder in recent times.

[everbrite]

I'm not to sure about this?  I should imagine the 'Chiense money' gave JE with Crooks and VV and co a considerably more to play with than Brady? Look how that worked out.

Page certainly was not going about keeping us in the division in right way.

JFH was shocking, as was Austin and didn't Gray have the budget slashed by Cardoza and we went down?

As for Keith Curles reruitment, didn't he sign Bolger, Mitchell, Rasic, Miller, Korboa and Missilou and Seal to keep us in the division?  Just by having Leonard in the team we have more chance of staying up than with we did with those.

Brady as earnt us 160 points in league 2 over 2 seasons. Those players we are 'saddled with'   haven't looked too out their depth this season against good teams. Guthrie, Sherring, Leonard, Sowerby, Burge are spine of a half decent team. Ability wise Fox and Koiki should be fine in this league and being saddled with Hoskins I also don't think room for arguement after his season.

McGowen, Pinnock and Appere are one could be argued aren't up to it and ironically 2 of them have made some contributions.

Brady and co know what we are lacking and some of that is because he's not been backed, so of it is watching Luton every week. I'm sure that 3k a week Brady knows could be put to better use. Sadly a transfer that looked good on paper has been a disaster.

Dispite some questionable attacking recruitment, most of which looked good on paper...I'll take Brady over very manager we've had bar Wilder in recent times

Good attempt as a riposte to Marvo. You have to remember that some on here thrive on the uncertainty of fans regarding our chances in league One; especially after 4/5 recent losses. Had the results been better they would keep a low profile! Personally would challenge their legitimacy as Cobblers Fans.

[DavCobb]

Same here!


Me and Dav, we're peas from the same pod. Tinnies from the same 4pack. Brothers in arms. Bro's with different mums, etc.

Yes, drinking on a school night.... Oh well.

Hope your head is OK today Bruv.

[Gustavo Palcrice]

Good attempt as a riposte to Marvo. You have to remember that some on here thrive on the uncertainty of fans regarding our chances in league One; especially after 4/5 recent losses. Had the results been better they would keep a low profile! Personally would challenge their legitimacy as Cobblers Fans.

I would challenge your legitimacy to challenge their legitimacy.

[Bingers]

Hope your head is OK today Bruv.

Heads okay, but not all the words are coming out in the right order. I really should know better.

[Bingers]

Dispite some questionable attacking recruitment, most of which looked good on paper...I'll take Brady over very manager we've had bar Wilder in recent times.

Same here.

[TPFKA Marvo]

I'm not to sure about this?  I should imagine the 'Chiense money' gave JE with Crooks and VV and co a considerably more to play with than Brady? Look how that worked out.

Page certainly was not going about keeping us in the division in right way.

JFH was shocking, as was Austin and didn't Gray have the budget slashed by Cardoza and we went down?

As for Keith Curles reruitment, didn't he sign Bolger, Mitchell, Rasic, Miller, Korboa and Missilou and Seal to keep us in the division?  Just by having Leonard in the team we have more chance of staying up than with we did with those.

Brady as earnt us 160 points in league 2 over 2 seasons. Those players we are 'saddled with'   haven't looked too out their depth this season against good teams. Guthrie, Sherring, Leonard, Sowerby, Burge are spine of a half decent team. Ability wise Fox and Koiki should be fine in this league and being saddled with Hoskins I also don't think room for arguement after his season.

McGowen, Pinnock and Appere are the ones could be argued aren't up to it and ironically 2 of them have made some contributions.

Brady and co know what we are lacking and some of that is because he's not been backed, some of it is watching Luton every week. I'm sure that 3k a week Brady knows could be put to better use. Sadly a transfer that looked good on paper has been a disaster.

Dispite some questionable attacking recruitment, most of which looked good on paper...I'll take Brady over very manager we've had bar Wilder in recent times.

All that is well and good but the FACT remains that after 8 games in League 1 Brady has the worst of all the managers you mention.

[DavCobb]

IMO this is by no means the weakest L1 squad we’ve had.
However narrow the defeats have been and however much we love him, JB has to take it on the chin.
I hope he isn’t the type that starts wheeling out excuses. That’s when you know a manager has lost it.
We just need a little luck, a couple of goals from no where, super Sammy to bag a hat trick. The feel good factor can soon return.
As much as Hylton gets talked about, that situation is pivotal in our current situation IMO.

[Terryfenwickatemyhamster]

Good attempt as a riposte to Marvo. You have to remember that some on here thrive on the uncertainty of fans regarding our chances in league One; especially after 4/5 recent losses. Had the results been better they would keep a low profile! Personally would challenge their legitimacy as Cobblers Fans.

I don't agree at all Evers. As much as Marvo can play devils advocate along with the best of us, he's not actually peddling doubt. He's just stating a fact and using it to make a point. If you disagree with the fact, then offer evidence to counter that, rather than embarking on, and encouraging others to question his credentials as a supporter.

Nobody wants to see Brady go, especially this far into the season. But we are where we are. Without the points deductions of two teams below us, we would be even more in the thick of it. Both of those sides will pass us soon, assuming our current form continues. Now, we can argue forever about why we are losing games. Offering a multitude of reasons. But Brady did/does pick the squad. So he has to stand by his decisions and face the consequences for them. I'm sure he will have the backing of both the board, and the support at the moment. He certainly deserves it for now. But, it's a results game, so the clock will be ticking. 

[TPFKA Marvo]

Good attempt as a riposte to Marvo. You have to remember that some on here thrive on the uncertainty of fans regarding our chances in league One; especially after 4/5 recent losses. Had the results been better they would keep a low profile! Personally would challenge their legitimacy as Cobblers Fans.

You mean had our results been better, we wouldn't be pointing to the fact that our results are worse. Well no shit sherlock, top of the class for stating the blindingly obvious.

[everbrite]

I would challenge your legitimacy to challenge their legitimacy.

you can off course and I would challenge you to challenge my opinion to do so. Best of luck
Regards

[cobbler151]

All that is well and good but the FACT remains that after 8 games in League 1 Brady has the worst of all the managers you mention.

Whilst not wanting to get in to a debate over small details.

I mentioned Edinburgh who was sacked after losing his first 4 games.

He's also joint bottom with Curle...no technically he's not.plus this season's football is better than Curles ever was.

Also...where did you expect to be? I had nothing more than a relegation battle in mind this year and that's what we are going to get.

[DavCobb]

It remains to be seen (or hopefully doesn’t!) but I believe if results continue in the same vain, although JB will obviously be the one to pay the price I don’t think he’ll be the one receiving the stick. Not that it will ultimately do him any good. Worth noting that a managers language and view of games can quickly change in opposition to the fans view!
I’m sure many would view it as a missed opportunity and a couple of hundred grand away from having a good stab at some L1 stability. Not saying it would guarantee that but we may never know.
If we can avoid ending up cut adrift by Jan (that’s a long time) then I’m sure they’ll be some roll of the dice. Let’s hope it’s on players and not a manager.
We should have Cheltenham in the bag.
The difference in feeling to 5 o’clock after the P*sh game and now couldn’t be much different. I certainly wasn’t envisaging a relegation battle and from memory there was no one suggesting we would be.*

Let’s hope Saturday is the first marker of a change in fortunes. We only need a win here and there to totally change the outlook.

* a Marvo fact check. TBF to B&S he predicted survival a miracle.

[TPFKA Marvo]

Whilst not wanting to get in to a debate over small details.

I mentioned Edinburgh who was sacked after losing his first 4 games.

He's also joint bottom with Curle...no technically he's not.plus this season's football is better than Curles ever was.

Also...where did you expect to be? I had nothing more than a relegation battle in mind this year and that's what we are going to get.

Justin Edinburgh did NOT manage the club on their return to the third tier. We were already in that division when he took over so he is not in the table.

I said of the managers you mentioned. Curle came up with a side that should never had been promoted, not with one that had finished top four for two seasons. Nevertheless he still had as many points as Brady after 8 games.

I didn't expect a relegation battle, we normally do quite well in our first season back, momentum is important. I thought we might flirt with the trap door but not be in the mix the whole season and certainly not already when we had a decent fixture list for our first few games.

[everbrite]

I don't agree at all Evers. As much as Marvo can play devils advocate along with the best of us, he's not actually peddling doubt. He's just stating a fact and using it to make a point. If you disagree with the fact, then offer evidence to counter that, rather than embarking on, and encouraging others to question his credentials as a supporter.

Nobody wants to see Brady go, especially this far into the season. But we are where we are. Without the points deductions of two teams below us, we would be even more in the thick of it. Both of those sides will pass us soon, assuming our current form continues. Now, we can argue forever about why we are losing games. Offering a multitude of reasons. But Brady did/does pick the squad. So he has to stand by his decisions and face the consequences for them. I'm sure he will have the backing of both the board, and the support at the moment. He certainly deserves it for now. But, it's a results game, so the clock will be ticking. 

Not sure if you are unable to see the wood for the trees! IMO Marvo is playing mindgames or doing his best to act as an influencer! Nobody is disputing the facts of five losses on the bounce, least of all me! So that’s 2/3rds of yr argument gone. I also get the impression that said poster underestimates the average IQ on here. Most fans realise that Brady might have got better support from the boards and the results at the moments might possibly suggest that we are not in a hopeless position in spite of the recent losses. In supporting the Cobblers we should retain a modicum of common sense, patience and good will? The good basics of the side are there. It’s easy to get downhearted and give up; I warrant you that if we get max points over the next 2/3 games all will be sweetness and light. The provocative experts will disappear until the next time. Am sorry cannot agree with you but suspect that your ego is well balanced enough to see other points of view? Regards all the same!

[DavCobb]

It’s easy to get downhearted and give up; I warrant you that if we get max points over the next 2/3 games all will be sweetness and light. The provocative experts will disappear until the next time.

I agree with this (maybe not the giving up) and would take something not to be downhearted after recent weeks. Will definitely be a totally different landscape should we win a couple.
The controversial view that whilst everyone will deny wanting us to fail, some absolutely revel in it when we do. It all comes down to egos and being proved ‘right’ whatever that is. That could easily translate into actually wanting us to lose. They don’t like that. That’s more prevalent on the FB.
On the flip side you get the polar opposite with the likes of Mark Kennedy who can polish the dirtiest turd. I’m sure he’s a happier person than most. Which tells you the better side of the fence to be in life!

[cobbler151]

Justin Edinburgh did NOT manage the club on their return to the third tier. We were already in that division when he took over so he is not in the table.

I said of the managers you mentioned. Curle came up with a side that should never had been promoted, not with one that had finished top four for two seasons. Nevertheless he still had as many points as Brady after 8 games.

I didn't expect a relegation battle, we normally do quite well in our first season back, momentum is important. I thought we might flirt with the trap door but not be in the mix the whole season and certainly not already when we had a decent fixture list for our first few games.

Well that's fair enough. Looking at the size of clubs in the division, our budget etc I was expecting us to be in for hard season.

This was compounded when we didn't sign a winger or another striker. I was also hoping we could offload Hylton and loan out Appere(hope he proves me wrong)+McGowen.