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« Reply #140 on: February 14, 2024, 18:03:55 pm »

Could be worth a punt 

It would certainly soften the blow if the worst did happen, worth a fiver and would pay for your season ticket for league 2 in the summer. Can't bring myself to do it though.
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« Reply #141 on: February 16, 2024, 11:21:16 am »

A new slant on the stats of teams promoted to division 1 being relegated again that recently appeared on another forum, these are figures of the 4 promoted teams over the last 15 years:-

Year 1. 11 relegated from 60 teams

Year 2.  8 relegated from 43 teams

Year 3.  5 relegated from 30 teams

Year 4.  3 relegated from 22 teams

Year 5.  7 relegated from 17 teams

Year 6.  2 relegated from 9 teams

Conclusion is that we are in much greater danger in year 5 than we are next year. Poster also said that half of the teams relegated from the Championship to division 1 are promoted back up within 2 years and 60% within 3 years.
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« Reply #142 on: February 16, 2024, 11:43:22 am »

A new slant on the stats of teams promoted to division 1 being relegated again that recently appeared on another forum, these are figures of the 4 promoted teams over the last 15 years:-

Year 1. 11 relegated from 60 teams

Year 2.  8 relegated from 43 teams

Year 3.  5 relegated from 30 teams

Year 4.  3 relegated from 22 teams

Year 5.  7 relegated from 17 teams

Year 6.  2 relegated from 9 teams

Conclusion is that we are in much greater danger in year 5 than we are next year. Poster also said that half of the teams relegated from the Championship to division 1 are promoted back up within 2 years and 60% within 3 years.
But we are in L1 getting relegated to L2, so these figures are pointless because the financial aspect isnít the same.
Donít worry youíll get the hang of it soon. Tongue
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« Reply #143 on: February 16, 2024, 12:08:22 pm »

Exactly we are are in division 1 and the figures quoted are for teams promoted from division 2 to division 1 suffering a return in the following seasons to division 1. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand this.
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« Reply #144 on: February 16, 2024, 12:15:41 pm »

I think far greater significance would to be compare what we have done in this exact situation.

PROMOTED          Lasted
1975/61 Season
1987/83 Seasons
1996/72 Seasons
1999/20002 Seasons
2005/63 Seasons
2015/62 Seasons
2019/201 Season

I've omitted the Bowen miracle for obvious reasons.

We can usually expect us to make it through our 1st season, the second season is tricky (usually worse than the first) and then if we make it that far, we get relegated at the third attempt. Always a first time though, if we make it to 4 season we might be able to consider ourselves a stable League 1 club..
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« Reply #145 on: February 17, 2024, 16:11:47 pm »

Cheltenham win their third game on the bounce which will have Charlton, Shrewsbury & Reading all looking nervously over their shoulders. I don't think you'll need 50pts to be safe this season.
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« Reply #146 on: February 17, 2024, 16:45:59 pm »

I think far greater significance would to be compare what we have done in this exact situation.

PROMOTED          Lasted
1975/61 Season
1987/83 Seasons
1996/72 Seasons
1999/20002 Seasons
2005/63 Seasons
2015/62 Seasons
2019/201 Season

I've omitted the Bowen miracle for obvious reasons.

We can usually expect us to make it through our 1st season, the second season is tricky (usually worse than the first) and then if we make it that far, we get relegated at the third attempt. Always a first time though, if we make it to 4 season we might be able to consider ourselves a stable League 1 club..

Very disappointed this hasn't been shown on a graph tbh

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« Reply #147 on: February 18, 2024, 06:35:56 am »

We look like a genuine league one outfit. With the exception of a couple off days against very tough opposition, we have done ourselves proud.
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« Reply #148 on: February 18, 2024, 08:11:51 am »

We look like a genuine league one outfit. With the exception of a couple off days against very tough opposition, we have done ourselves proud.
Indeed we do, massive kudos to Jon, Sammo, Marc and the whole team.
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« Reply #149 on: February 18, 2024, 09:50:44 am »

I would guess that many fans thought, as I did, that we would stay up but would be hovering around 17-20th place for most of the season. To see us sitting 11th is just brilliant.UTC
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« Reply #150 on: February 18, 2024, 10:03:58 am »

I would guess that many fans thought, as I did, that we would stay up but would be hovering around 17-20th place for most of the season. To see us sitting 11th is just brilliant.UTC

No need to guess, wasn't there a poll on here on expected finishing position?
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« Reply #151 on: February 18, 2024, 18:02:29 pm »

I would guess that many fans thought, as I did, that we would stay up but would be hovering around 17-20th place for most of the season. To see us sitting 11th is just brilliant.UTC

Interestingly this has been achieved by a squad which by all intents and purposes is that which finished third in league 2 last year. There were plenty on here calling this group of players not up to league 1 standard at the start of the season and calling for signings.
I love how the club have gone about this campaign, we have a group of hardworking players with great spirit who play for each other and are better than the sun of their parts. There are teams below us that have gone for the big name big wage signings but this shows there more to football than just money.
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« Reply #152 on: February 18, 2024, 18:06:44 pm »

Interestingly this has been achieved by a squad which by all intents and purposes is that which finished third in league 2 last year. There were plenty on here calling this group of players not up to league 1 standard at the start of the season and calling for signings.
I love how the club have gone about this campaign, we have a group of hardworking players with great spirit who play for each other and are better than the sun of their parts. There are teams below us that have gone for the big name big wage signings but this shows there more to football than just money.

On the other hand there's Stevenage. Just saying.
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« Reply #153 on: February 18, 2024, 18:08:52 pm »

Interestingly this has been achieved by a squad which by all intents and purposes is that which finished third in league 2 last year. There were plenty on here calling this group of players not up to league 1 standard at the start of the season and calling for signings.
I love how the club have gone about this campaign, we have a group of hardworking players with great spirit who play for each other and are better than the sun of their parts. There are teams below us that have gone for the big name big wage signings but this shows there more to football than just money.

I wonder, is this the squad with the least changes after recent promotion to League One?
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« Reply #154 on: February 18, 2024, 18:31:20 pm »

I wonder, is this the squad with the least changes after recent promotion to League One?
Thatís a good point
I think our problems always start when we fail to build the next team to try to stay up
We never seem to and we never invest to try to even going back to the Stuart gray times
These are heady days for the club and should be embraced because history dictates it will not last  Sad
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« Reply #155 on: February 18, 2024, 19:11:25 pm »

On the other hand there's Stevenage. Just saying.

Or Carlisle who had a great January window.
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« Reply #156 on: February 18, 2024, 19:15:44 pm »

Or Carlisle who had a great January window.

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Yeah Marvo why didn't you mention Carlisle
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« Reply #157 on: February 18, 2024, 19:19:03 pm »

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Yeah Marvo why didn't you mention Carlisle

Because Carlisle didn't buy a lot of players last summer so I was comparing like for like.
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« Reply #158 on: February 18, 2024, 19:21:27 pm »

Thatís a good point
I think our problems always start when we fail to build the next team to try to stay up
We never seem to and we never invest to try to

Surely we Ďinvestedí when the Chinese money came in and how did that work out, shows thereís more to football than just money.
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« Reply #159 on: February 18, 2024, 21:21:01 pm »

I am sure it was mentioned by some that the contract extensions were to ensure that we had a good competitive League Two side, not one that would be comfortable in the top half of League One.
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