Manwork04
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Surely we ‘invested’ when the Chinese money came in and how did that work out, shows there’s more to football than just money.
There is but money doesn’t half help.
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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There is but money doesn’t half help.
Well... At the moment we are doing very well with what I keep getting reminded is only a small percentage of what our first team should be, if injury free. So what is the problem exactly?? The other day, I saw a chap come onto the pitch who wouldn't touch us with a barge poll under "normal" circumstances. But I would imagine that under the agreement we have with him, plenty of clubs would have given it a punt. But he chose us. As did the clubs that loaned out players to us, that are amongst our best currently. So whilst it is not ideal. I think we are doing very well. Until such a time that we are top of the Prem, the "we could do better mantra" will always be relevant.
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Manwork04
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Well... At the moment we are doing very well with what I keep getting reminded is only a small percentage of what our first team should be, if injury free. So what is the problem exactly??
The other day, I saw a chap come onto the pitch who wouldn't touch us with a barge poll under "normal" circumstances. But I would imagine that under the agreement we have with him, plenty of clubs would have given it a punt. But he chose us. As did the clubs that loaned out players to us, that are amongst our best currently. So whilst it is not ideal. I think we are doing very well. Until such a time that we are top of the Prem, the "we could do better mantra" will always be relevant.
Once again the it will do attitude, strive to be the best.
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Deepcut Cobbler
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Once again the it will do attitude, strive to be the best.
Our best and within our (current) means...
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2009
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DavCobb
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I wonder if any other teams sitting 11th in the league has their top thread called 'relegation watch'? 
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Manwork04
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I wonder if any other teams sitting 11th in the league has their top thread called 'relegation watch'?  You can’t blame us for being a little scared.
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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Once again the it will do attitude, strive to be the best.
I sometimes wonder if you and Duston are one and the same. Nowhere in my post does it suggest an “it will do attitude”. It is so clearly about us excelling past our means. It states how with the right attitude and leadership we can box above what was/is expected. At the start of the season, there were plenty who would have expected this thread to have been true by now. And that was with the squad that it was assumed Brady would need just to keep us remotely buoyant. Yet we are currently in a strong position, without the luxury of fielding nowhere near our “best” side.
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Manwork04
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I sometimes wonder if you and Duston are one and the same. Nowhere in my post does it suggest an “it will do attitude”. It is so clearly about us excelling past our means. It states how with the right attitude and leadership we can box above what was/is expected. At the start of the season, there were plenty who would have expected this thread to have been true by now. And that was with the squad that it was assumed Brady would need just to keep us remotely buoyant. Yet we are currently in a strong position, without the luxury of fielding nowhere near our “best” side.
Imagine what we could do with some backing and a stadium to match that ambition.
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Risdene
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Imagine what we could do with some backing and a stadium to match that ambition.
You keep staying the bleeding obvious BUT never state where this funding could realistically come from!
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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You keep staying the bleeding obvious BUT never state where this funding could realistically come from!
I think Manny struggles with the reality of the current situation. That's why I likened him to Duston. See.... I like to have a discussion (along with a few others) highlighting how well we are doing. I always hope that the more cerebral types will know that I am doing so, taking it for read that I am giving a summary of our progress under the current managerial and ownership regime. For some reason, that is hard to comprehend by some. Who believe that they are the only ones clever enough, to realise that if in an alternative existence we had millions to invest into the team. Who would be playing in a bigger stadium. We wouldn't be sitting mid table in league one. Now, I have explained it quite a lot, and indicated that we are all aware of the mechanisms of growth for the club. But they still feel the need to keep enlightening us, by stating the fcuking obvious. 
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Manwork04
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You keep staying the bleeding obvious BUT never state where this funding could realistically come from!
Wrong yet agin, I have posted on here numerous case studies of how ambitious clubs have raised capital. It’s not a secret I’m sure KT and DB know how, they just don’t want to.
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Risdene
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Wrong yet agin, I have posted on here numerous case studies of how ambitious clubs have raised capital. It’s not a secret I’m sure KT and DB know how, they just don’t want to.
Wrong yet again! It is not an answer by spending other peoples money! If it is sooooo easy why don't do it?
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Terryfenwickatemyhamster
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Wrong yet agin, I have posted on here numerous case studies of how ambitious clubs have raised capital.
Perhaps you could enlighten us, with a like for like comparison. So you'll be looking for a club that has no discernible assets. In an area that has a commercial planning waiting times the second longest in the UK. Built on a compost heap. With a decent cricket club, Rugby club, and the largest motor sport venue in the UK 15 minutes away from it. Sitting almost equidistant between the two largest cities in the UK. Go for it 
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TPFKA Marvo
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I was just studying the bottom 6 in the table and if they all continue to garner points at the same rate as they have so far this season, they'd end up with (figures rounded up)
Shrewsbury 49 Cheltenham 48 Charlton 46 Port Vale 46 Fleetwood 37 Carlisle 29
Looking at that we might need just 1 more win to be safe. When the final table is in it will be interesting to see just when we achieved safety.
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Managers like Bowen and Wilder* are rare to come by! Whether we like it or not Jon Brady is the only recent Manager who can possibly follow in their* footstops!
We should stick with him, as at the moment he is our only hope of survival as a EFL Club!
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itsme
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If we don't get more win between now and the end of the season we don't deserve to stay up
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singcobb
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I was just studying the bottom 6 in the table and if they all continue to garner points at the same rate as they have so far this season, they'd end up with (figures rounded up)
Shrewsbury 49 Cheltenham 48 Charlton 46 Port Vale 46 Fleetwood 37 Carlisle 29
Looking at that we might need just 1 more win to be safe. When the final table is in it will be interesting to see just when we achieved safety.
I think your bottom four is correct there. Chelts with two games in hand over Charlton and into a good run of form.
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itsme
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Football is a funny game at times as Cheltenham couldn't buy a goal or point at the start of the season and I think they will stay up
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Perhaps you could enlighten us, with a like for like comparison. So you'll be looking for a club that has no discernible assets. In an area that has a commercial planning waiting times the second longest in the UK. Built on a compost heap. With a decent cricket club, Rugby club, and the largest motor sport venue in the UK 15 minutes away from it. Sitting almost equidistant between the two largest cities in the UK. Go for it  Before anyone comes up with any proposals/recommendations/demands/ultimatums can I suggest that people take the time to read the government white paper on football reform. Much of what is being stated would simply not be possible if this policy is implemented. If you can’t be bothered, perhaps just look at section 3 subsection 5. I don’t think some have quite grasped what’s coming over the horizon https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/a-sustainable-future-reforming-club-football-governance/a-sustainable-future-reforming-club-football-governance
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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, the Trust “advisor” is not god. Are you going to tell him or shall I?
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singcobb
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Well that's it then. As soon as the government get involved it is the death knell of football. They'll be coming up with rules like your team must contain at least two women, one trans person and three Idon'tf***ingknows.
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