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« Reply #160 on: February 18, 2024, 21:59:43 pm »

Surely we ‘invested’ when the Chinese money came in and how did that work out, shows there’s more to football than just money.

There is but money doesn’t half help.
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« Reply #161 on: February 19, 2024, 06:45:02 am »

There is but money doesn’t half help.

Well... At the moment we are doing very well with what I keep getting reminded is only a small percentage of what our first team should be, if injury free. So what is the problem exactly??

The other day, I saw a chap come onto the pitch who wouldn't touch us with a barge poll under "normal" circumstances. But I would imagine that under the agreement we have with him, plenty of clubs would have given it a punt. But he chose us. As did the clubs that loaned out players to us, that are amongst our best currently. So whilst it is not ideal. I think we are doing very well. Until such a time that we are top of the Prem, the "we could do better mantra" will always be relevant. 
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« Reply #162 on: February 19, 2024, 07:22:18 am »

Well... At the moment we are doing very well with what I keep getting reminded is only a small percentage of what our first team should be, if injury free. So what is the problem exactly??

The other day, I saw a chap come onto the pitch who wouldn't touch us with a barge poll under "normal" circumstances. But I would imagine that under the agreement we have with him, plenty of clubs would have given it a punt. But he chose us. As did the clubs that loaned out players to us, that are amongst our best currently. So whilst it is not ideal. I think we are doing very well. Until such a time that we are top of the Prem, the "we could do better mantra" will always be relevant. 
Once again the it will do attitude, strive to be the best.
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« Reply #163 on: February 19, 2024, 07:24:59 am »

Once again the it will do attitude, strive to be the best.

Our best and within our (current) means...
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« Reply #164 on: February 19, 2024, 07:52:23 am »

I wonder if any other teams sitting 11th in the league has their top thread called 'relegation watch'?  Tongue
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« Reply #165 on: February 19, 2024, 10:00:59 am »

I wonder if any other teams sitting 11th in the league has their top thread called 'relegation watch'?  Tongue
You can’t blame us for being a little scared.
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« Reply #166 on: February 19, 2024, 19:17:49 pm »

Once again the it will do attitude, strive to be the best.

I sometimes wonder if you and Duston are one and the same. Nowhere in my post does it suggest an “it will do attitude”. It is so clearly about us excelling past our means. It states how with the right attitude and leadership we can box above what was/is expected. At the start of the season, there were plenty who would have expected this thread to have been true by now. And that was with the squad that it was assumed Brady would need just to keep us remotely buoyant. Yet we are currently in a strong position, without the luxury of fielding nowhere near our “best” side.



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« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2024, 07:01:06 am »

I sometimes wonder if you and Duston are one and the same. Nowhere in my post does it suggest an “it will do attitude”. It is so clearly about us excelling past our means. It states how with the right attitude and leadership we can box above what was/is expected. At the start of the season, there were plenty who would have expected this thread to have been true by now. And that was with the squad that it was assumed Brady would need just to keep us remotely buoyant. Yet we are currently in a strong position, without the luxury of fielding nowhere near our “best” side.





Imagine what we could do with some backing and a stadium to match that ambition.
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« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2024, 08:58:09 am »

Imagine what we could do with some backing and a stadium to match that ambition.
You keep staying the bleeding obvious BUT never state where this funding could realistically come from!
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« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2024, 11:36:39 am »

You keep staying the bleeding obvious BUT never state where this funding could realistically come from!

I think Manny struggles with the reality of the current situation. That's why I likened him to Duston. See.... I like to have a discussion (along with a few others) highlighting how well we are doing. I always hope that the more cerebral types will know that I am doing so, taking it for read that I am giving a summary of our progress under the current managerial and ownership regime. For some reason, that is hard to comprehend by some. Who believe that they are the only ones clever enough, to realise that if in an alternative existence we had millions to invest into the team. Who would be playing in a bigger stadium. We wouldn't be sitting mid table in league one. Now, I have explained it quite a lot, and indicated that we are all aware of the mechanisms of growth for the club. But they still feel the need to keep enlightening us, by stating the fcuking obvious.  Grin

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« Reply #170 on: February 20, 2024, 12:15:38 pm »

You keep staying the bleeding obvious BUT never state where this funding could realistically come from!
Wrong yet agin, I have posted on here numerous case studies of how ambitious clubs have raised capital.
It’s not a secret I’m sure KT and DB know how, they just don’t want to.
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« Reply #171 on: February 20, 2024, 13:55:22 pm »

Wrong yet agin, I have posted on here numerous case studies of how ambitious clubs have raised capital.
It’s not a secret I’m sure KT and DB know how, they just don’t want to.
Wrong yet again!

It is not an answer by spending other peoples money!

If it is sooooo easy why don't do it?
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« Reply #172 on: February 20, 2024, 15:07:04 pm »

Wrong yet agin, I have posted on here numerous case studies of how ambitious clubs have raised capital.


Perhaps you could enlighten us, with a like for like comparison.

So you'll be looking for a club that has no discernible assets. In an area that has a commercial planning waiting times the second longest in the UK. Built on a compost heap. With a decent cricket club, Rugby club, and the largest motor sport venue in the UK 15 minutes away from it. Sitting almost equidistant between the two largest cities in the UK.

Go for it  Grin
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« Reply #173 on: February 20, 2024, 22:11:07 pm »

I was just studying the bottom 6 in the table and if they all continue to garner points at the same rate as they have so far this season, they'd end up with (figures rounded up)

Shrewsbury 49
Cheltenham 48
Charlton 46
Port Vale 46
Fleetwood 37
Carlisle 29

Looking at that we might need just 1 more win to be safe. When the final table is in it will be interesting to see just when we achieved safety.
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« Reply #174 on: February 21, 2024, 07:37:25 am »

If we don't get more win between now and the end of the season we don't deserve to stay up
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« Reply #175 on: February 21, 2024, 12:12:35 pm »

I was just studying the bottom 6 in the table and if they all continue to garner points at the same rate as they have so far this season, they'd end up with (figures rounded up)

Shrewsbury 49
Cheltenham 48
Charlton 46
Port Vale 46
Fleetwood 37
Carlisle 29

Looking at that we might need just 1 more win to be safe. When the final table is in it will be interesting to see just when we achieved safety.

I think your bottom four is correct there. Chelts with two games in hand over Charlton and into a good run of form.
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« Reply #176 on: February 21, 2024, 17:39:35 pm »

Football is a funny game at times as Cheltenham couldn't buy a goal or point at the start of the season and I think they will stay up
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« Reply #177 on: February 27, 2024, 14:41:36 pm »

Reading deducted a further two points, to push them back down the table a bit.
https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2024-02-27/reading-fc-docked-further-points-after-persistent-late-payments-to-hmrc
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« Reply #178 on: February 27, 2024, 19:36:56 pm »

Perhaps you could enlighten us, with a like for like comparison.

So you'll be looking for a club that has no discernible assets. In an area that has a commercial planning waiting times the second longest in the UK. Built on a compost heap. With a decent cricket club, Rugby club, and the largest motor sport venue in the UK 15 minutes away from it. Sitting almost equidistant between the two largest cities in the UK.

Go for it  Grin
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« Reply #179 on: February 27, 2024, 19:54:29 pm »

Well that's it then. As soon as the government get involved it is the death knell of football. They'll be coming up with rules like your team must contain at least two women, one trans person and three Idon'tf***ingknows.
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