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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2023, 08:04:53 am » |
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I think Harry Kane has missed more penalties than Hoskins.
Not for us though
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Bingers
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2023, 09:31:06 am » |
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Not for us though Well according to Wikipedia, Kane has missed 4 for "us" as in England. How many has Super Sam missed for "us" as in The Mighty Cobblers? To date, I don't think Super Sam has missed any for England.
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The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2015
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Larry
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2023, 10:01:15 am » |
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Funny isn't it. When post after posts praises Hoskins, quite deservedly, nobody says "Give it a rest" do they? Yet should someone have the temerity to suggest that penalty miss could prove vital at the end of the season, and it could yet, they are told to shut up. The post ratio praising Hoskins against those that don't must be 100 to 1 on here yet still some of you can't stand that odd one can you? Pathetic.
What about the failure to mark Udoh and Burge not covering his post?
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TPFKA Marvo
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2023, 10:54:43 am » |
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What about the failure to mark Udoh and Burge not covering his post?
I think the point is that in all likelihood wouldn't have happened had the penalty been scored. Shrewsbury would have been completely deflated, they hadn't scored in ages and our whole defensive set-up would have been different had we been leading 1-0. It always is. In my opinion we would have gone on to win that game quite comfortably and would now be sitting in 13th place. That's how important that penalty miss was.
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It's all about balance.
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Dan
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2023, 11:01:55 am » |
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What about the failure to mark Udoh and Burge not covering his post?
Butterfly effect. If the penalty had been scored, then the ball and players would have lined up for a kick off, and that scenario wouldn’t have happened. Not necessarily agreeing with that’s been said, but that Udoh goal doesn’t happen if the pen had been successful.
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The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2013
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Larry
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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2023, 11:35:43 am » |
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Butterfly effect.
If the penalty had been scored, then the ball and players would have lined up for a kick off, and that scenario wouldn’t have happened.
Not necessarily agreeing with that’s been said, but that Udoh goal doesn’t happen if the pen had been successful.
That's true but my point is the folly of picking out one event in a game six weeks ago as defining our current position in the table.
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west stand oap
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2023, 11:44:28 am » |
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The table "would look so much different now" if Sam had not scored 9 goals, if he had only scored about 4 we would be firmly in the bottom 4 so he is well in credit despite missing 1 penalty.
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CobblerForever
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2023, 12:21:43 pm » |
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Anyone else think Marvo might be an avid viewer of Gone Fishing ?
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Tabasco Kid
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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2023, 14:24:31 pm » |
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Anyone else think Marvo might be an avid viewer of Gone Fishing ?
Hes bored. He hasnt started a new topic for a couple of days..
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Were in the pipe 5 by 5.
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TPFKA Marvo
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2023, 14:32:07 pm » |
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I mention Shrewsbury in relation to the relegation thread, quite legitimately, all you lot move on to a Hoskins love-fest. Its like a totalitarian state on here, there is zero tolerance of anybody that has the temerity to disagree with the majority viewpoint.
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It's all about balance.
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Larry
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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2023, 18:54:49 pm » |
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I mention Shrewsbury in relation to the relegation thread, quite legitimately, all you lot move on to a Hoskins love-fest. Its like a totalitarian state on here, there is zero tolerance of anybody that has the temerity to disagree with the majority viewpoint.
Come on, playing the martyr doesn't suit you. Your dislike of Sam Hoskins is obvious to anyone who regularly reads this message board. Cloaking it with obscure statistics doesn't fool anyone.
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TPFKA Marvo
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« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2023, 19:12:11 pm » |
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Come on, playing the martyr doesn't suit you. Your dislike of Sam Hoskins is obvious to anyone who regularly reads this message board. Cloaking it with obscure statistics doesn't fool anyone.
Well its fooled you for a start as you are completely wrong.
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everbrite
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« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2023, 22:35:38 pm » |
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I mention Shrewsbury in relation to the relegation thread, quite legitimately, all you lot move on to a Hoskins love-fest. Its like a totalitarian state on here, there is zero tolerance of anybody that has the temerity to disagree with the majority viewpoint.
I personally think your attempt to demonise Hoskins to an irrelevant presence in the team; going back to the Bradford game last season was an error in judgement! Most on here did not appear to support your treatise on Hoskins which was supported by some dubious innovative stats.
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TPFKA Marvo
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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2023, 07:08:07 am » |
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I personally think your attempt to demonise Hoskins to an irrelevant presence in the team; going back to the Bradford game last season was an error in judgement! Most on here did not appear to support your treatise on Hoskins which was supported by some dubious innovative stats.
You still don't get me do you? I'm not like you, I don't need the validation or the reassurance of being in the majority. When Hoskins does eventually finish at the club, whenever that may be, the club will be okay, it will continue as it has for the last several decades going up and down between tiers 3 & 4. It wont be Armageddon. That also applies to both you and me.
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everbrite
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« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2023, 14:44:07 pm » |
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You still don't get me do you? I'm not like you, I don't need the validation or the reassurance of being in the majority. When Hoskins does eventually finish at the club, whenever that may be, the club will be okay, it will continue as it has for the last several decades going up and down between tiers 3 & 4. It wont be Armageddon. That also applies to both you and me.
I will only get worried when one of your masterful comments gets unaminous approval.
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2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
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TPFKA Marvo
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« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2023, 16:53:14 pm » |
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I will only get worried when one of your masterful comments gets unaminous approval.
I know. That's your thing isn't it? It's unanimous by the way.
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Deepcut Cobbler
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« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2023, 19:49:00 pm » |
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I will only get worried when one of your masterful comments gets unanimous approval.
I agree with Marvo's factual statistics, the interpretation of which is a personal preference. Marvo's interpretation is one of a few that could be applied. The fact that it upsets people on here (some quite significantly), is hilarious.
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“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
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Melbourne Cobbler
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« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2023, 19:57:49 pm » |
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I mention Shrewsbury in relation to the relegation thread, quite legitimately, all you lot move on to a Hoskins love-fest. Its like a totalitarian state on here, there is zero tolerance of anybody that has the temerity to disagree with the majority viewpoint.
Perhaps another perspective might be that it’s just that no-one agrees with you?
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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, the Trust “advisor” is not god. Are you going to tell him or shall I?
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TPFKA Marvo
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« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2023, 20:08:58 pm » |
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Perhaps another perspective might be that it’s just that no-one agrees with you?
About what? Shrewsbury? The penalty? Whether we'd be further up the table? Which one is it?
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Melbourne Cobbler
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« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2023, 21:35:23 pm » |
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About what? Shrewsbury? The penalty? Whether we'd be further up the table? Which one is it?
None. Probably more likely because it’s a pointless observation. If you could be bothered to look there would be literally hundreds of examples in any given season where if so and so hadn’t have hit the bar, or he hadn’t hit the post, or that bloke hadn’t have missed an open goal or penalty the result and table would’ve been different. Many affecting relegation/promotion. Whilst factually accurate all are a bit irrelevant, basically if my auntie had bòllocks she’d be my uncle. Still whatever makes you happy.
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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, the Trust “advisor” is not god. Are you going to tell him or shall I?
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